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which gif of takane shijou eating is your favorite
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1st 13 9.15%
2nd 52 36.62%
3rd 22 15.49%
4th 11 7.75%
5th 12 8.45%
6th 32 22.54%
Total: 142 votes
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DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010


Fallen Rib
Like, the reason why everyone lives in houses that still contain the ruined possessions of people who are long dead is not for any reason except "because it's a post-apocalyptic setting"

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GorfZaplen
Jan 20, 2012

Bad Seafood posted:

I actually thought House's goals for the Mojave were far more reasonable and manageable than either the NCR's or the Legion's.

They were also more sustainable than either, but I was going Free Vegas because I felt that was the direction the game was leading me thematically, before my computer crashed and I lost everything.

Reds
Jun 15, 2015

I sense someone talking about... GUNDAM!
It's probably intentional and showing that even something like that is considered the pinnacle of quality in the Fallout world, but the New Vegas Strip looks like a rundown piece of poo poo. I was really disappointed, I was expecting to see something that looked pre-war when I got there.

Everything Burrito
Jun 2, 2011

I Failed At Anime 2022

Bad Seafood posted:

Having not played a previous Fallout game will likely increase the probability of you enjoying Fallout 4, yes.

cool maybe I'll get it too

Knorth
Aug 19, 2014

Buglord

DoubleDonut posted:

Like, the reason why everyone lives in houses that still contain the ruined possessions of people who are long dead is not for any reason except "because it's a post-apocalyptic setting"

Or... antiquing

GorfZaplen
Jan 20, 2012

DoubleDonut posted:

Like, the reason why everyone lives in houses that still contain the ruined possessions of people who are long dead is not for any reason except "because it's a post-apocalyptic setting"

They're poor and some of the houses are literally made out of tin roofs, and the only nearby person who could make new buildings is an old man with robot wives. In FO3 that's just sort of what Washington D.C. is like all of the time, really.

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!
This bird is peeping at the girl's bath house and getting a bird nose bleed. I don't think I like him very much.

GorfZaplen
Jan 20, 2012

I'm more impressed with the pre-war clothing that has survived nuclear bombardment and centuries outside in the hot Mojave sun. That poo poo should give you a bigger armor bonus than Power Armor, realistically.

Reds
Jun 15, 2015

I sense someone talking about... GUNDAM!

DoubleDonut posted:

Look I just think it's lovely world-building and I think you could do something cool with a setting where people are torn between trying to emulate the pre-apocalyptic society of centuries ago and moving on to something new, but instead Fallout seems like it's stuck at twenty years after the bombs fell forever

They got too post-apocalyptic in that somebody has to have started rebuilding at that point, you can't just sit on your asses not rebuilding after that long. But that would break the setting so nobody is allowed to rebuild beyond a certain point.

Fallout 3 is nonsensically post-apocalyptic, it'd make more sense shortly after the bombs dropped, not after the first two games. New Vegas at least has the excuse of being in the middle of a desert.

Bad Seafood
Dec 10, 2010


If you must blink, do it now.

Parallax posted:

I'm going to be honest and say this is an entitled opinion to feel towards any creator or creative entity (except in a really EXTREME case like if they made Kermit the Frog a rapist)
I can't say I agree.

Sometimes creative properties change hands, which is fine, but when the new folks mishandle it or end up wildly off-base, I think it's entirely acceptable for long-term fans to feel slighted.

I'm not advocating burning down Bethesda here, I'm just saying it's not that unreasonable a thing to get grumpy about.

DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010


Fallen Rib

Bad Seafood posted:

I can't say I agree.

Sometimes creative properties change hands, which is fine, but when the new folks mishandle it or end up wildly off-base, I think it's entirely acceptable for long-term fans to feel slighted.

I'm not advocating burning down Bethesda here, I'm just saying it's not that unreasonable a thing to get grumpy about.

Let me tell you about Dungeon Keeper...

Knorth
Aug 19, 2014

Buglord

The Colonel posted:

This bird is peeping at the girl's bath house and getting a bird nose bleed. I don't think I like him very much.

The bird is kind of obnoxious but I really liked that show so I hope you enjoy it anyway :)

Allarion
May 16, 2009

がんばルビ!

The Colonel posted:

This bird is peeping at the girl's bath house and getting a bird nose bleed. I don't think I like him very much.

I only saw the first few episodes of Tamako Market, but common consensus seems to be that the bird was the worst part of it. I'm inclined to agree since it seems like a fine show without it.

Bad Seafood
Dec 10, 2010


If you must blink, do it now.

DoubleDonut posted:

Like, the reason why everyone lives in houses that still contain the ruined possessions of people who are long dead is not for any reason except "because it's a post-apocalyptic setting"
There are actually quite a few locations in the Mojave that've been significantly spruced up or at least tidied away, the Strip itself is just a mess cause House is allocating all his resources towards keeping the trains on time rather than civic beautification which he seems to leave to the discretion of the individual.

Enter any of the actual casinos on the Strip and they're all pretty polished and well-maintained.

Reds
Jun 15, 2015

I sense someone talking about... GUNDAM!
The currently airing Utawarerumono is pretty fun. I think I'll save episode 6 for later.

GorfZaplen
Jan 20, 2012

All of the NCR facilities you visit are pretty nice and clean too.

Bad Seafood
Dec 10, 2010


If you must blink, do it now.

DoubleDonut posted:

Let me tell you about Dungeon Keeper...
I know this feel.

Or would, if I had a higher opinion of the Dungeon Keeper games.

DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010


Fallen Rib
I'll admit I'm talking more about FO3 because I didn't care about the alleged better writing in New Vegas and gameplay-wise it seemed to basically be FO3 but it takes longer to get weapons that aren't dogshit

Droyer
Oct 9, 2012

I haven't played any fallout game.

I hope there won't be any fallout from this confession

NotALizardman
Jun 5, 2011

Reds posted:

New Vegas at least has the excuse of being in the middle of a desert.

New Vegas was also only resettled recently, gamewise. The Three Families only get "recruited" like a decade before the game starts, and before that House was exterminating the tribals and raiders that had settled in Vegas proper.

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine
I haven't played any Fallouts either

GorfZaplen
Jan 20, 2012

Droyer posted:

I haven't played any fallout game.

I hope there won't be any fallout from this confession

There's a cute robot companion in NV, and you can gently caress another robot. There are also many other robots of various size and shape.

Droyer
Oct 9, 2012

GorfZaplen posted:

There's a cute robot companion in NV, and you can gently caress another robot. There are also many other robots of various size and shape.

hmm...

Agronox
Feb 4, 2005

Reds posted:

Should I finish Mikagura Gakuen Kumiyoku?I can't remember if I got three or four episodes in by the time I sort of just forgot to keep up with it but I just noticed I still have the episodes lying around and it's only one cours and I don't have anything better to do so

It's okay. If you don't have anything better to do it's worth watching, there's nothing that gets too grating about it and Eruna is a fun character. Not the best production though.

Dangerous Person posted:

I like Space Dandy but Baccano is the best dub

Should I watch either or both of these?

Also, Fallouts 1 and 2 are the only true Fallouts. Sorry millenials

NotALizardman
Jun 5, 2011

Get this, you can date a robot in FO4. Uncertain if you can gently caress her yet.

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine
I saw that this toy was on sale and thought of you guys and your argument about anime girls

https://www.hlj.com/product/KBYPP-589?SaleGroup

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!

Agronox posted:

Should I watch either or both of these?

BOTH.

GorfZaplen
Jan 20, 2012

Fallout 2 has many robots too, but most of them are evil and one is hard to get unless you put a lot of focus into specific skills.

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

Bad Seafood posted:

I can't say I agree.

Sometimes creative properties change hands, which is fine, but when the new folks mishandle it or end up wildly off-base, I think it's entirely acceptable for long-term fans to feel slighted.

I'm not advocating burning down Bethesda here, I'm just saying it's not that unreasonable a thing to get grumpy about.

That's a perfectly valid view to have. I (and perhaps Parallax as well) have just had the misfortune of most people I encounter with that view on whatever IP be the sort that expresses it through aggression towards people that enjoy the new incarnations of the series. You're being perfectly reasonable with it, but that's probably where the caution comes from, at least on my part.

Motto fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Nov 10, 2015

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

There's a manga called Taresokare by Molico Ross which is about how your cat would be an rear end in a top hat if it were human:

Bad Seafood
Dec 10, 2010


If you must blink, do it now.
Something else that's neat about New Vegas is if you go exploring you actually stumble across a lot of farmland in a variety of places.

There's no point to discovering any of it, you don't get anything; it's all just there to show you where everyone's getting their food and water in the middle of the desert.

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

Agronox posted:

It's okay. If you don't have anything better to do it's worth watching, there's nothing that gets too grating about it and Eruna is a fun character. Not the best production though.


Should I watch either or both of these?

Also, Fallouts 1 and 2 are the only true Fallouts. Sorry millenials

You should watch Baccano.

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster
Pillbug

boom boom boom posted:

I saw that this toy was on sale and thought of you guys and your argument about anime girls

https://www.hlj.com/product/KBYPP-589?SaleGroup

I want that so badly but explaining my CA vilkiss will be hard enough to explain to women

DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010


Fallen Rib
For more crusty old gamer opinions, ask me about modern WRPGs with regards to Baldur's Gate and who the best girl in Harvest Moon 64 is

GorfZaplen
Jan 20, 2012

Bad Seafood posted:

Something else that's neat about New Vegas is if you go exploring you actually stumble across a lot of farmland in a variety of places.

There's no point to discovering any of it, you don't get anything; it's all just there to show you where everyone's getting their food and water in the middle of the desert.

One of the barns has the alien blaster, the best weapon in the game, or the Gauss Rifle if you're a boring person who hates fun.

Allarion
May 16, 2009

がんばルビ!

DoubleDonut posted:

For more crusty old gamer opinions, ask me about modern WRPGs with regards to Baldur's Gate and who the best girl in Harvest Moon 64 is

Isn't the answer always Karen?

Admittedly Ann was cool too.

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster
Pillbug
Not to mention cross ange and chaika on my HTPC

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

I might buy FO5 once all the expacs and poo poo are out, i did that with Skyrim and had a lot of fun with it.

GorfZaplen
Jan 20, 2012

It's the redhead tomboy who loves to cook, actually.

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Parallax
Jan 14, 2006

Motto posted:

That's a perfectly valid view to have, I (and perhaps Parallax as well) have just had the misfortune of most people I encounter with that view on whatever IP be the sort that expresses it through aggression towards people that enjoy the new incarnations of the series. You're being perfectly reasonable with it, but that's probably where the caution comes from, at least on my part.

I also don't really like the idea of creators "owing" fans anything because it can just end up boring or restrictive creative-wise.

I don't think that's really the problem with Bethesda, though.

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