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William Goldman famously said about Hollywood, "Nobody knows anything." For wrestling I think that can be refined to "Nobody learns anything." Every mistake made by WCW has since been repeated (mostly by TNA but WWE has gotten in on it too.)
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Aesop Poprock posted:Russo didn't help but Bischoff was already enough of a moron to destroy wcw by himself. We're there any wrestling promoters in history who weren't absolute retards in one way or another?
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Something I just noticed about the old Nitro intro where some abandoned buildings are catching on fire in a backlot someplace, only one building has any sort of identification and it's this one. What could it mean?
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Nov 10, 2015 15:50
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It's where the WCW Power Plant got their supplies of steroids.
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I watched the Network version of 2000 Bash at the Beach and goddamn every song is overdubbed practically. Goldberg's theme is dubbed using his WWE song, Jarrett loses the Kid Rock ripoff song and gets some generic twangy rock song, Kronic's theme is dubbed but you really can't tell the difference, and then when Sting comes out they start playing Metallica for like 2 bars and then it too gets dubbed over by some generic horror song.  Did WCW on home video have this problem while they were still around?
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WCW FALL BRAWL FINAL POLL RESULTS (1998) Thumbs up 1 (00.6%) Thumbs down 174 (99.4%) In the middle 0 (00.0%) I really want to hang out with the one Thumbs Up guy
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You probably don't. He'd drool all over you.
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Swagger Dagger posted:WCW FALL BRAWL FINAL POLL RESULTS (1998) I also want to hang out with Stevie Ray.
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Nov 10, 2015 20:15
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Great White Hope posted:I also want to hang out with Eric Bischoff.
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1st AD posted:I watched the Network version of 2000 Bash at the Beach and goddamn every song is overdubbed practically. Goldberg's theme is dubbed using his WWE song, Jarrett loses the Kid Rock ripoff song and gets some generic twangy rock song, Kronic's theme is dubbed but you really can't tell the difference, and then when Sting comes out they start playing Metallica for like 2 bars and then it too gets dubbed over by some generic horror song. Most of the licensed music was from people signed to WMG, which was owned by Time Warner, which was in turn headed up by Ted Turner making licensing the music very easy since they were basically licensing it from themselves.
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The Observer explicitly states that the one thumbs-up guy was NOT Bischoff 
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Nov 11, 2015 01:59
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Has WCW ever had a good 3-ring battle royal?
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Benne posted:Has WCW ever had a good 3-ring battle royal? No.
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Benne posted:Has WCW ever had a good 3-ring battle royal? I liked the World War 3 that Nash won. He kicked the arse of everyone in his ring really quickly and then stood around looking bored waiting to get into the middle one. It also had the spot where Stevie Ray and Booker T, (who had recently split up), faced off against each other, then shrugged and turned around to fight other guys.
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Nov 11, 2015 03:47
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The one where Hogan came out #60 after everyone else had been eliminated.
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Nov 11, 2015 07:26
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From the Jan 29, 96 episode of Raw: Apparently, even though the billionaire Ted vignettes were terrible, the WCW was threatening some legal recourse because in one of them the "Huckster" argued with Billionaire Ted over steroid testing.
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WCW, where all the big boys play with each other.
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More fun from Raw Replays: This is apparently an actual ad that Vince McMahon sent to the WSJ, but it was refused. According to Vince McMahon's voiceover, a modified version ran in the New York Financial Times. I would love to see what it ended up being.
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"In light of WCW & WWF program ratings, we understand your concern about the content of our programs." lmao
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drat, Bischoff was savage
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1st AD posted:drat, Bischoff was savage Kontroversy Kreates Ka$h
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Is this thread dead? Come on, gotta keep that WCW spirit alive! So I watched the Slamboree 2000 episode of OSW Review. It reminded me of a dark time when I didn't have a channel with weekly WWF shows, so WCW was all I had, and it deteriorated fast. The OSW guys had a great observation about one thing that Russo changed about WCW - he buried the cruiserweights. Chris Candido was the cruiserweight champ at the time, a guy even bulkier than La Parka. At the same time, the WWF got some of WCW's best cruiserweights, guys that made people watch WCW. Everything turned into a showcase of cynicism and smugness, a total poo poo circus. What I came to realize after all these years was that Russo doesn't know jack poo poo about wrestling, he knows how to make crash TV, which was hot for a couple of years in the 90s. Also, WCW was terrible and copying WWF's style, while the WWF just got WCW's best under-appreciated performers and basically improved their in ring product, which I think was crucial to their success even to this day.
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Watching 1995-96 Nitro, it really is crazy the level of matches they were giving away compared to what you were getting on Raw. I will also never get tired of watching an entire arena freak out over the Torture Rack. I don't know if I've ever seen wrestling fans quite so happy
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The Torture Rack is probably one of the 5 coolest moves in wrestling. It looks awesome when done well and has a top-tier name.
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Was Bischoff drunk when he did his "nWo takes over the announcing booth" spots? I just watched the episode where Masahiro Chono turned on Sunny Ono and joined the nWo. Bischoff called him "Masa My Hero" about 50 times and did the worst Japanese accent you've ever heard. I also wonder if those announce desk invasions were pre-planned, because Tony and Tenay looked legit pissed every time it happened.
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Problem is the rack looked like poo poo 99% of the time
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Benne posted:Was Bischoff drunk when he did his "nWo takes over the announcing booth" spots? Weirdly enough this was the opinion when F4W reviewed a recent nItro. Unless you listened to that podcast too and are repeating it.
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triplexpac posted:Weirdly enough this was the opinion when F4W reviewed a recent nItro. I watch the episodes along with B&V and was thinking that even before listening to the podcast. It seemed pretty obvious even by Bischoff's announcing standards.
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At the Souled Out 97 ppv Bischoff sounds drunk/high as hell on commentary too. So either that was just his natural way of doing commentary, or he didn't give a poo poo.
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Rad R. posted:Is this thread dead? Come on, gotta keep that WCW spirit alive! I remember El Dandy challenging Juvi for the cruiserweight title.  He wouldn't be a cruiserweight even if he dieted for 6 months.
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All the Mexicans were pushed as Cruiserweights including Dandy, Parka (who was tall for a Mexican and chubby besides), and Silver King (who was thick and roided AND chubby).
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Benne posted:Was Bischoff drunk when he did his "nWo takes over the announcing booth" spots? Do you remember which nitro, I wanna see that
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Say Nothing posted:I remember El Dandy challenging Juvi for the cruiserweight title. 220 lbs is really heavy and Dandy was probably well below that in the 90s.
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The last one B&V did, whichever date that was is the one with drunk Eric.
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MassRafTer posted:220 lbs is really heavy and Dandy was probably well below that in the 90s. I notice from their wiki pages that Dandy was about 5'7" and Silver King 5'9", so under 220lbs was possible. Probably not for La Parka, who was 6'1" though.
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The cruiserweight division isn't about weight limits, it's about no limits!!!
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Say Nothing posted:I notice from their wiki pages that Dandy was about 5'7" and Silver King 5'9", so under 220lbs was possible. Probably not for La Parka, who was 6'1" though.
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Halloween Jack posted:How much could a skeleton possibly weigh?! I asked a doctor and he just kept saying "ain't no bones about it".
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Halloween Jack posted:How much could a skeleton possibly weigh?! A skeleton of La Parka's size could weigh anywhere between 12 and 648 pounds depending on how much milk he drank.
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It's amazing to think that El Dandy was used maybe once every two months on Nitro despite being one of the ten best wrestlers on that roster.
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