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Plus it's not like FFG couldn't or wouldn't resell older models with a new paintjob. They did it with both Aces packs, there's nothing stopping them from making Rebel/Imperial Aces II. Also there's still more EU material to mine, like a lot more.
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Tbf the awinf ace is a different model with distinct appearance. Rest not so much
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Devlan Mud posted:At the rate Disney is likely to be producing content, and the willingness Lucasfilm seems to have to work with the design team (Imperial Raider), I reckon it is going to be quite hard for FFG to run out of tiny plastic spaceship designs. I dunno, I feel like they're already scraping the bottom of the barrel. Literally everything in the original trilogy is in there, and most ships from Star Wars Galaxies of all things are in there, too. Look at the scum ships in Wave 8, the K-Wing, and the TIE Punisher. Those aren't exactly iconic Star Wars classics. Force Awakens might give them enough material for Wave 9, but Wave 10 is going to be some serious B-list poo poo.
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Nov 10, 2015 12:08
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And there's absolutely nothing wrong with mining the old Legends sources for content. Just because they're obscure doesn't make them bad. Honestly though, I'm really expecting them to pull a couple more sub-factions out with prequel ships. Put Naboo Starfighters, ARC-170s, Delta 7s in a Rebellion-compatible Old Republic faction; Vulture droids, Tri-fighters, maybe the black-painted V-wings in a empire-compatible faction.
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And as boring as AotC and RotS were, there's some fairly cool proto-ties and proto-xwings in there that would work. Even though they've said "no prequels", the Jedi interceptors look fairly cool:
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lenoon posted:And as boring as AotC and RotS were, there's some fairly cool proto-ties and proto-xwings in there that would work. Even though they've said "no prequels", the Jedi interceptors look fairly cool: They're alright...but not nearly as cool as the Episode II Delta 7
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Nov 10, 2015 13:37
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I don't think they'll have trouble coming up with 2-3 ships per faction every 6-9 months for a very long time. Especially now that the Disney Star Wars train is rolling.
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I'm hope there's a Vaksai Starfighter in the pipe for scum, given it's already on the Lightning Reflexes card. Maybe too similar to the Kihrazx? Though that didn't stop the tie F/O. Actually I'm guessing there'll be a lot of new "variants" of released ships, with updated dials and movement shenanigans, because I really like the new game space that crazy stuff the tallon roll opens up, and I'd like for that to be more available whilst not leaving the old stuff behind completely. Edit: there's also bomber and defender imperial aces very likely in wave 9, as well as a fix for scyk somewhere. hoiyes fucked around with this message at 14:30 on Nov 10, 2015 |
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Nov 10, 2015 13:58
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I've wondered about prequel ships. The prequels were pretty terrible, but the ship designs were among the best parts for me. I'd love to see some prequel factions. They have certainly seemed willing to go back earlier than epIV, given that stuff from Rebels coming out soon. I'd hope that this can continue to pretty much be a living game; it has a lot more space left both in game design and world design terms. I'd love to play a Naboo Cruiser with the docked fighters from Ep 2. They were so shiny. It really depends how willing they are to mine comics and EU stuff. And that I have no read on at all.
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Nov 10, 2015 18:29
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jivjov posted:And there's absolutely nothing wrong with mining the old Legends sources for content. Just because they're obscure doesn't make them bad. Problem here is with the factions. The Republic IS the Empire and the Separatists aren't the Empire at all, though neither are they The Rebellion.
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If Scum get Nyx and his bomber that would prequel wouldn't it though? Because he's from the Episode 1 videogames so....
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Lunatic Pathos posted:Problem here is with the factions. The Republic IS the Empire and the Separatists aren't the Empire at all, though neither are they The Rebellion. I think you'd probably have to add separate Old Republic and Old !Republic factions, I think. They certainly feel distinct enough, though you run into problems rounding out the Old !Republic because so many of their ships were either droids or undifferentiated Geonosians and therefore boring and identical to build/run. I would love to play the tiny-star-destroyer Jedi starfighter though, that thing was awesome.
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Nov 10, 2015 20:22
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Lunatic Pathos posted:Problem here is with the factions. The Republic IS the Empire and the Separatists aren't the Empire at all, though neither are they The Rebellion. Eh, I see it as more of "good guys" vs "bad guys" with no real need to have the game represent the fact that the republic stuff became used as Empire stuff.
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jivjov posted:Eh, I see it as more of "good guys" vs "bad guys" with no real need to have the game represent the fact that the republic stuff became used as Empire stuff. Sure, if they had called it Light Side vs Dark Side (even though The Republic and Separatists are both run by the Dark Side) like the LCG does, but the factions are Rebels and Imperials. It would still be weird to fly clone trooper pilots, the precursors of Stormtroopers, alongside Rebel pilots.
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Ehh, they could always add a smugglers/spies faction. Or start piling in every ship that ever showed up in a background sequence.
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We are almost certainly going to get a Missile Boat for the Empire, I can't imagine they made rules for a SLAM and intended it to be K-Wing only, and the MB is the only other ship I know of that has it, while also being a uniqueish ship.
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Nov 10, 2015 21:27
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The Empire already has two uninteresting ships with too many ordnance slots. Why would they make a third?
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Nov 10, 2015 21:51
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"But seriously guys, THIS time we'll get it right!"
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I was just thinking something that could fire multiple missiles in one round, no matter how hard that might be to balance. I mean the Missile Boat's entire raison d'être is to fire ALL THE MISSILES after boosting to point blank range.
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Nov 10, 2015 22:00
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They will release prequel stuff when the money dries up.
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Nov 10, 2015 22:05
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Once they run out of Star Wars ships they'll just move on to Battlefleet Gothic 2.0 and make endless tiny variations on "cathedral-boat in space" for the rest of time.
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Nov 10, 2015 22:50
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Kai Tave posted:Once they run out of Star Wars ships they'll just move on to Battlefleet Gothic 2.0 and make endless tiny variations on "cathedral-boat in space" for the rest of time. Depends on how GW treats gothic spaceship miniatures with regards to FFG's 40k license. Likely not gonna happen.
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I have a total noob question. I just picked up some Rebel stuff to play with some coworkers (including some original X-wings) and I have the Force Awakens core set. If I ever wanted to play in a tournament could I use the old X-Wing miniature with the new T70 X-wing cards? I couldn't see any differentiation in the symbols but wanted to confirm before I did something dumb.
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Nov 10, 2015 23:08
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Lunatic Pathos posted:Sure, if they had called it Light Side vs Dark Side (even though The Republic and Separatists are both run by the Dark Side) like the LCG does, but the factions are Rebels and Imperials. It would still be weird to fly clone trooper pilots, the precursors of Stormtroopers, alongside Rebel pilots. I don't see anything weird about Clone Troopers flying alongside the rebellion. They didn't ask to have the Order 66 chip planted in their heads...
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Verno5x posted:I have a total noob question. I just picked up some Rebel stuff to play with some coworkers (including some original X-wings) and I have the Force Awakens core set. If I ever wanted to play in a tournament could I use the old X-Wing miniature with the new T70 X-wing cards? I couldn't see any differentiation in the symbols but wanted to confirm before I did something dumb. You could use either miniature (I'm 99% sure they're just repaints), but the cards, dials and base plate thingies are specific sets which go together. You can't run Wedge with a T70 dial and base plate, for instance.
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Verno5x posted:I have a total noob question. I just picked up some Rebel stuff to play with some coworkers (including some original X-wings) and I have the Force Awakens core set. If I ever wanted to play in a tournament could I use the old X-Wing miniature with the new T70 X-wing cards? I couldn't see any differentiation in the symbols but wanted to confirm before I did something dumb. I'm pretty sure you can't sub in the old X-Wing for the T70 version, because they have different stats and models. This only applies to tournaments, however. If you are playing casual and with friends, do whatever you like, proxy the hell out of stuff.
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Verno5x posted:I have a total noob question. I just picked up some Rebel stuff to play with some coworkers (including some original X-wings) and I have the Force Awakens core set. If I ever wanted to play in a tournament could I use the old X-Wing miniature with the new T70 X-wing cards? I couldn't see any differentiation in the symbols but wanted to confirm before I did something dumb. The T-65 X-Wing icon is pointed to the right. The T-70 is more head-on. Proxying cards is one thing, but there isn't really a scenario where you would be able to fly a ship without the right model, since you'd also be missing the proper dial.
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thespaceinvader posted:You could use either miniature (I'm 99% sure they're just repaints), but the cards, dials and base plate thingies are specific sets which go together. You can't run Wedge with a T70 dial and base plate, for instance. They are quite different, unlike the TIE/fo which is practically just a repaint to most people. Look at the old Ralph McQuarrie art cuz that's what the new ones are based on. Split intakes is the biggest indicator. Also, Wedge still needs a Lt. Kettch alternate art card!
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Chill la Chill posted:They are quite different, unlike the TIE/fo which is practically just a repaint to most people. Look at the old Ralph McQuarrie art cuz that's what the new ones are based on. Split intakes is the biggest indicator. I'd still suggest that in normal friendly play you could get away with proxying the mini, but should make sure to keep card, dial and base plate together, but I'd agree that you'd almost certainly not be able to in tournaments.
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They have different manuver dials?
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LingcodKilla posted:They have different manuver dials? T-70 has the Tokyo Drift update.
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canyoneer posted:T-70 has the Tokyo Drift update. And a green 3-straight.
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Nov 11, 2015 00:17
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And a three green forward. TIE/FO has a 2-sloop.
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Chill la Chill posted:Also, Wedge still needs a Lt. Kettch alternate art card! Yub yub, Commander.
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LingcodKilla posted:They have different manuver dials? Yup, totally different. Different actions, too, though those are obvious from the pilot cards. And different upgrade slots, but ditto. Also, I love the fact that the new maneuver the T70 gets is called the t-roll. FFG totally t-rolling us.
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Was kinda hoping the dial would at least be the only thing the same. But I understand why.
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Endman posted:Yub yub, Commander. stop trying to make kettch happen!
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willus posted:stop trying to make kettch happen! If you're from Endor, why aren't you an Ewok?
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WHERE IS MY ASSAULT GUNBOAT FFG YOU SHITS STOP MAKING EU GARBAGE seriously though, why isn't it in
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Alctel posted:WHERE IS MY ASSAULT GUNBOAT FFG YOU SHITS STOP MAKING EU GARBAGE Because it does exactly the same thing a shuttle does. It even looks like a shuttle. Not that it stopped the Punisher, of course, but there's why nobody's hopping up and down to make it.
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