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What gun are you going to use in this Call of Duty?
The good one that everyone else uses
Another, different gun
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Gothmog1065
May 14, 2009
OMG finally got an open NAT!

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ShineDog
May 21, 2007
It is inevitable!
It wouldn't be cod but I wish ttk was a tad longer. It feels so many fights end before they get intersting.

Drav
Jul 23, 2002

We've come a long way since that day, and we will never look back at the faded silhouette.

victrix posted:

Fine, you fuckers, you made me go do some spreadsheet work. I'm not going to publish it fully because I need to test some poo poo and I'm almost 100% certain a few of the numbers are wrong.

I didn't include shotguns because I'm pretty sure my rof number on the Brecci is wrong, but if I did, the Haymaker is near top tier at optimal (2sk) range, falls off rapidly from there, the KRM and Argus are bottom middle if they fail to 1sk, and the Brecci is near the bottom (but I believe that's wrong, I think it's actually between the Haymaker and KRM/Argus for its 2sk, and it has a more consistent 2sk range than the Haymaker).

There are also caveats out the rear end here, optimal range for some guns is like a hair outside melee range, and good luck consistently hitting full bursts, and it doesn't factor head shots, and it doesn't consider high caliber, rapid fire, suppressors, long barrels, blah blah. And lol if you think you can achieve ideal Vesper kill times at range.

ie, use these as tier lists to declare anything at the bottom poo poo tier and justify why you died.

Fastest to slowest, ARs/SMGs/LMGs/Pistols only, optimal range.
code:

1	XR-2		Assault Rifle
2	RK5		Pistol
3	48 Dredge	LMG
4	Vesper		SMG
5	Kuda		SMG
6	L-CAR 9		Pistol
7	M8A7		Assault Rifle
8	KN-44		Assault Rifle
9	Pharo		SMG
10	VMP		SMG
11	Gorgon		LMG
12	MR6		Pistol
13	Man-O-War	Assault Rifle
14	BRM		LMG
15	Sheiva		Assault Rifle
16	HVK-30		Assault Rifle
17	Dingo		LMG
18	Weevil		SMG
19	Razorback	SMG
20	ICR-1		Assault Rifle


Fastest to slowest, ARs/SMGs/LMGs/Pistols only, worst range.
code:

1	XR-2		Assault Rifle
2	48 Dredge	LMG
3	M8A7		Assault Rifle
4	Vesper		SMG
5	Pharo		SMG
6	KN-44		Assault Rifle
7	RK5		Pistol
8	VMP		SMG
9	HVK-30		Assault Rifle
10	Dingo		LMG
11	Kuda		SMG
12	Man-O-War	Assault Rifle
13	BRM		LMG
14	Razorback	SMG
15	Gorgon		LMG
16	MR6		Pistol
17	ICR-1		Assault Rifle
18	Weevil		SMG
19	L-CAR 9		Pistol
20	Sheiva		Assault Rifle

This isn't the ideal way to show this, preferably I'd show it graded by range so you can see how different guns are better/worse at a given distance, but that'd take actual effort, and you aren't paying me enough for that :10bux:

Guns in BO3 have a very pronounced damage stepping system, so at X range you'll take 3 shots/Y time to kill, but an asshair past that and it takes 4 shots/Y++ time to kill. This hits guns like the RK5 and Kuda particularly hard, and the KN44 to some extent.

(But yes, the XR2 owns, my first gold gun for entirely unrelated reasons I swear :smugdog: I believe it also reloads and moves faster than other ARs for no good reason, need to double check that though)

Please like, subscribe, and follow, it really helps me out.

So the 48 Dredge is better than the Gorgon??? :crossarms:

victrix
Oct 30, 2007


Drav posted:

So the 48 Dredge is better than the Gorgon??? :crossarms:

That's the spirit!

Drav
Jul 23, 2002

We've come a long way since that day, and we will never look back at the faded silhouette.

victrix posted:

That's the spirit!

Sorry I'm desperate to be better at CoD and I can't tell if you're serious or not. Do I continue with the Gorgon or switch to the 48 Dredge?

The Merry Marauder
Apr 4, 2009

"But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own."
That chart assumes all shots in a burst hit. So don't go changing your playstyle.

Gothmog1065
May 14, 2009
Welp, time to trade this in for Fallout or something. Nothing better than getting kicked from a group after ground war loss, so there's only 6 again.

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.
Slippery Tilde

Mister Macys posted:

Why no Flak & Tac on your cap class?
How many 'nades does a trophy stop?
2 as mentioned, but as long as you aren't capping solo they last long enough. I get killed by getting shot, not blown up.

Also occasionally they still stop missiles so it's hilarious at the start of round 2 if they drop poo poo on B and it fails to kill you because of your lil' trophy.

e: there's definitely some sacrificing on this build, but this way you can carry smoke & a trophy which frees up other goons to run something else. Usually I cap and then switch over to something else after I get killed, it's not all that great anywhere else unless you want to camp like a boy scout (and it's pretty good for that with the LMG and if you pick your trophy back up)

SubponticatePoster fucked around with this message at 02:42 on Nov 11, 2015

Hackan Slash
May 31, 2007
Hit it until it's not a problem anymore

Gothmog1065 posted:

Welp, time to trade this in for Fallout or something. Nothing better than getting kicked from a group after ground war loss, so there's only 6 again.

Game randomly kicks people, and they don't disappear from the party until later. If you had a mic and told us we would've picked you up.

Nighthand
Nov 4, 2009

what horror the gas

Gothmog1065 posted:

Welp, time to trade this in for Fallout or something. Nothing better than getting kicked from a group after ground war loss, so there's only 6 again.

We didn't kick you, you got dropped from the xbox party or something and everyone assumed you left. If it makes you feel any better, we went from a 6v6 game to 1 person dropping on that team, who was then immediately replaced by 5 people, so they had 10 and we had 6 and got crushed.

victrix
Oct 30, 2007


The Merry Marauder posted:

That chart assumes all shots in a burst hit. So don't go changing your playstyle.

This, use what works for you.

Mostly it's useful to understand that "hey if my gun is slower and the other guy gets lucky or is good, I'll always lose that gunfight"

Ttk naturally ignores accuracy, so guns like the icr don't show well.

In general a faster ttk is preferable, but not at the expense of using a weapon that feels bad to you personally.

Ttk numbers are (usually) more reliable up close, but stable weapons can more consistently hit their ttk at a distance.

I will say I can't see the point of the hvk though...

abraham linksys
Sep 6, 2010

:darksouls:
Hm, I crashed to XMB at the end of a round and now I can't connect. Anyone else having this issue on PS4?

e: nevermind, connected as I posted that

dragon enthusiast
Jan 1, 2010
oh my god every sniper rifle in this game has an iron sights attachment :allears:

abraham linksys
Sep 6, 2010

:darksouls:
The HIVE specialist ability is pretty cool. I think it's a one-hit kill, but there's a delay to it, so you can't necessarily use it to guard you from a specific direction, but it sticks around for a second after you die so you might be able to get a revenge kill :v:

Javes
May 6, 2012

ASK ME ABOUT APPEARING OFFLINE SO I DON'T HAVE TO TELL FRIENDS THEY'RE NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR MY VIDEO GAME TEAM.
You know what would be rad? A Raid remake.

Xenaero
Sep 26, 2006


Slippery Tilde

dragon enthusiast posted:

oh my god every sniper rifle in this game has an iron sights attachment :allears:

Suffer through 12 weapon levels to unlock it

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


Javes posted:

You know what would be rad? A Raid remake.

Yes. Yes. Yessss. :getin: Raid fuckin ruled.

Video Nasty
Jun 17, 2003

It would be really cool if they pulled some Command & Conquer type poo poo and sent future-soldiers back to WWII to clean up hordes of nazis.

Like, redoing the Normandy landings as a decked-out loving super-soldier; tackling fifteen nazis into a wall and shooting spike grenades into bunkers.

dragon enthusiast
Jan 1, 2010
Isn't that basically what Resistance: Fall of Man was supposed to be


Can you still save clips in Theatre mode or do you have to do everything through the OS sharing features? Couldn't find the option to make clips
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feWWFwagalY

Xenaero
Sep 26, 2006


Slippery Tilde
Hey how do you select different scorestreaks if you have more than one ready

Drav
Jul 23, 2002

We've come a long way since that day, and we will never look back at the faded silhouette.

Xenaero posted:

Hey how do you select different scorestreaks if you have more than one ready

Down or up on the D-pad

Mill Village
Jul 27, 2007

Gothmog1065 posted:

OMG finally got an open NAT!

Don't get too excited, you'll still get bad connections.

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

Nash Regex posted:

It would be really cool if they pulled some Command & Conquer type poo poo and sent future-soldiers back to WWII to clean up hordes of nazis.

Like, redoing the Normandy landings as a decked-out loving super-soldier; tackling fifteen nazis into a wall and shooting spike grenades into bunkers.

Where do I preorder this?

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR
Got a RAPS in a Care Package.

Blown up by a Lightning Strike before I could pick it up and spawned on the other edge of the map. :downs:

OneDeadman
Oct 16, 2010

[SUPERBIA]

Kilometers Davis posted:

Where do I preorder this?

Right here buddy don't buy darkest of days

T1g4h
Aug 6, 2008

I AM THE SCALES OF JUSTICE, CONDUCTOR OF THE CHOIR OF DEATH!

So is the Brecci semi-auto shotgun worth using or should I just stick to the KRM until I get the Haymaker? Because the KRM owns fuckin bones and i've been using nothing else, but the fire rate has gotten me killed quite a few times.

Also, anyone tried the Argus yet? I cannot wait to level up enough to unlock it and use it, that thing looks crazy as hell :allears:

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


I did much better with the semi shotgun than the pump, personally, Its got a solid two hit range, just keep tapping them out. You gotta play to it's range advantage and either control closed spaces or scream around the map on a jetpack and walls coming at people like you're fuckin spiderman.

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

welp silenced XR2 is my loving jam.

Gothmog1065
May 14, 2009

Mill Village posted:

Don't get too excited, you'll still get bad connections.

At least with an open NAT I have a chance at actually getting host.

Pretty_Llama
Nov 11, 2009

Gothmog1065 posted:

Welp, time to trade this in for Fallout or something. Nothing better than getting kicked from a group after ground war loss, so there's only 6 again.

Like everyone said we didn't kick you - the game randomly drops people from parties and it takes awhile for it to actually drop them from being displayed in the group. Unfortunately with bigger parties this happens almost every match at the moment. We also had a fun bug last night in a 6v6 match where the entire other team quit out at half time so the game decided to add 12 people to the other team. The second half didn't go so hot for us.

Gothmog1065
May 14, 2009
Yeah, I'm being a big baby. Hoping to get a new headset, I lost my adapter for the old one (Plus it seemed to suck), because I know everyone hates listening to someone on the kinect.

Superanos
Nov 13, 2009

http://charlieintel.com/2015/11/10/new-game-settings-update-for-bo3-sd-xp-changed-to-500-bug-fixes-and-more/

quote:

Vahn said its too early for weapon changes, but they have heard feedback about weapons, including the Gorgon LMG. They will announce details when they have info on their plans for future updates.

Gotta get that Gorgon gold camo before it's too late!

eleven extra elephants
Feb 16, 2007

Menschliches! Allzumenschliches!!
Hello, I bought this, I don't know why.

beaner69
Sep 12, 2009
We got a bug last where it kicked bobby at the loading screen, put us in a 7v5 game and then somehow "fixed" itself by making it a 4v7. Then the weirdest bug where we were able to play 5 games in a row.

FallinInTheBlak
Jan 20, 2013

Sarcastic. Sadistic. British.
:britain:
:wotwot:

beaner69 posted:

Then the weirdest bug where we were able to play 5 games in a row.

It'll be patched soon. Don't worry.

Linx
Aug 14, 2008

Pork Pro
I haven't really played a COD game since the original BLOPS, and it was my understanding that they stopped you being able to just vote for the same map over and over again (24/7 Nuketown). All I've done today is play domination on Combine. Map vote seems pretty broken right now.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Linx posted:

I haven't really played a COD game since the original BLOPS, and it was my understanding that they stopped you being able to just vote for the same map over and over again (24/7 Nuketown). All I've done today is play domination on Combine. Map vote seems pretty broken right now.

I have no loving clue why the options are "Next / Last / Random" instead of just giving you 4 random maps each time like would be sensible.

Why on earth is "previous" even an option?

There may as well not even be a vote its so pointless.

Literal Nazi Furry
Jan 27, 2008

Swastika - Helvetica - Ikea
Last night I dreamt of Adolf searching for Anne.
I lay on my back
standing alone in the corner watching the girls dance.

I'm on crystal meth.
I piss in my pants.

FAT WORM OF ERROR posted:

Hello, I bought this, I don't know why.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-defeating_personality_disorder

Quabzor
Oct 17, 2010

My whole life just flashed before my eyes! Dude, I sleep a lot.

Linx posted:

I haven't really played a COD game since the original BLOPS, and it was my understanding that they stopped you being able to just vote for the same map over and over again (24/7 Nuketown). All I've done today is play domination on Combine. Map vote seems pretty broken right now.

I think everyone figured that it was actually broken. Because you could vote for nuketown twice, then vote random and nuketown would show again, followed by voting for it twice, then it happening in random, blah blah until everyone quits the lobby.

I fired up Blops a few weeks ago and played nuketown like 6 times in a row.

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eleven extra elephants
Feb 16, 2007

Menschliches! Allzumenschliches!!

Are you calling me a homo?

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