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Rabid Snake
Aug 6, 2004



smarion2 posted:

Here's a pic a bit more than 5 feet away.



I really love the monitor and it really doesn't bother me that much. I guess for the price I just want to get what I paid for mostly. Don't let me talk myself into keeping it if its unacceptable.

I would exchange it for a new one. My Korean 27" monitor doesn't have bad of a backlight bleed and I paid $200 for it.

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AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

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smarion2 posted:

Alllllllllllright, thanks guys. Should I try new egg? What type of local stores would carry something like this?

Newegg is much worse on returns/exchanges for monitors than Amazon, in fact Amazon probably has the best policies for monitor returns and exchanges outside of a brick and mortar store with a hassle free return policy. Also very few B&M stores would carry something like the XB270HU, maybe someplace like Microcenter or Fry's but that's about it.

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry

Slider posted:

The XB270HU is apparently under review on the amazon webpage, and they're not directly selling it anymore, guessing this is because there's people who have rma'd the monitor 5 times in a row trying to get ones without the terrible bleed.

This isn't the first time amazon has halted sales of that monitor. They did it about a month ago too.

Lowen SoDium fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Nov 8, 2015

Futaba Anzu
May 6, 2011

GROSS BOY

What the gently caress is this:


Fixing it (if that even is possible) isn't an issue because I'm getting a new second monitor on Black Friday, but this quite literally happened completely out of nowhere. A friend I showed it to told me it might have been due to blunt trauma from having the screen tilted down for so long which caused the bezel to constantly rest on the tilted part or something. When I try to smooth it over, it'll go back down but then just branch back up if I let go. The branching effect actually looks kind of cool, to be quite honest.

Futaba Anzu fucked around with this message at 06:47 on Nov 8, 2015

ijyt
Apr 10, 2012

Looks like liquid crystal spill to me, but I've not dealt with a broken screen for years so might be wrong.

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry
Can someone with a Gsync monitor tell me if it was worth it or not? I am thinking I am going to spring for a 21:9 34" 1440p monitor and I want to know if Gsync makes any real difference so I know if I should wait for the Asus to come out or if I can pick something else now.

FedEx Mercury
Jan 7, 2004

Me bad posting? That's unpossible!
Lipstick Apathy
Any opinion on the Monoprice branded 144Hz monitor? It's on sale at the moment.

http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/product/details/12178

Ika
Dec 30, 2004
Pure insanity

Has anyone looked at the dell UP3216Q? Going to >=30" has been tempting me for 5 years and now I can get 4K for the same price as 2560x1600 used to cost. It'd replace my U2711.

Hikaki
Oct 11, 2005
Motherfucking Fujitsu Heavy Industries

Lowen SoDium posted:

Can someone with a Gsync monitor tell me if it was worth it or not? I am thinking I am going to spring for a 21:9 34" 1440p monitor and I want to know if Gsync makes any real difference so I know if I should wait for the Asus to come out or if I can pick something else now.

It's pretty great. If you're already going to spend like 600-800 bucks, you might as well go the extra 200 to get Gsync. It's not worth the extra cost on a cheaper monitor though. I'd say it's on the lower end of the nice features that monitors offer these days, behind high refresh rate and resolution and maybe even low input delay. Kind of like the icing on the cake; I would get a really nice cake first before getting really nice icing.

That said, since you're looking at 34" 1440p monitors, you might as well wait for what's coming up because everything is 60Hz right now anyway, and a better refresh rate is definitely worth waiting for.

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry

Hikaki posted:

It's pretty great. If you're already going to spend like 600-800 bucks, you might as well go the extra 200 to get Gsync. It's not worth the extra cost on a cheaper monitor though. I'd say it's on the lower end of the nice features that monitors offer these days, behind high refresh rate and resolution and maybe even low input delay. Kind of like the icing on the cake; I would get a really nice cake first before getting really nice icing.

That said, since you're looking at 34" 1440p monitors, you might as well wait for what's coming up because everything is 60Hz right now anyway, and a better refresh rate is definitely worth waiting for.

That is a good point. The Asus ROG Swift PG348Q is supposed to do 75Hz, and 100Hz in Gsync mode.

VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
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Hikaki posted:

It's pretty great. If you're already going to spend like 600-800 bucks, you might as well go the extra 200 to get Gsync. It's not worth the extra cost on a cheaper monitor though. I'd say it's on the lower end of the nice features that monitors offer these days, behind high refresh rate and resolution and maybe even low input delay. Kind of like the icing on the cake; I would get a really nice cake first before getting really nice icing.

That said, since you're looking at 34" 1440p monitors, you might as well wait for what's coming up because everything is 60Hz right now anyway, and a better refresh rate is definitely worth waiting for.

Probably a harder question to answer, but how noticeable is the difference of having g-sync vs just having a higher refresh rate, say, at least 96hz?

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Hikaki posted:

It's pretty great. If you're already going to spend like 600-800 bucks, you might as well go the extra 200 to get Gsync. It's not worth the extra cost on a cheaper monitor though. I'd say it's on the lower end of the nice features that monitors offer these days, behind high refresh rate and resolution and maybe even low input delay. Kind of like the icing on the cake; I would get a really nice cake first before getting really nice icing.

I would rather have gsync at 90Hz than non-gsync at 144Hz, at least for gaming. It lets me set my quality settings to target ~60 and not have big judder if it drops to 55 in a rough section. Otherwise I have to drop down until I'm mostly at 75, so that I don't ever fall below 60 and get 30.

KodiakRS
Jul 11, 2012

:stonk:
It's beginning to look like the pg279q and 271HU will have the same issues as the XB270. Is there any reason not to wait until the 270 goes on sale (Black Friday/cyber Monday?) and just hope I get a good one?

VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
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KodiakRS posted:

It's beginning to look like the pg279q and 271HU will have the same issues as the XB270. Is there any reason not to wait until the 270 goes on sale (Black Friday/cyber Monday?) and just hope I get a good one?

While I doubt any of these monitors will be on a significant sale for Black Friday, wouldn't buying it on said date lock you in for that price, allowing you do exchanges without returning/rebuying?

Hikaki
Oct 11, 2005
Motherfucking Fujitsu Heavy Industries

VulgarandStupid posted:

Probably a harder question to answer, but how noticeable is the difference of having g-sync vs just having a higher refresh rate, say, at least 96hz?

I went straight from 60Hz to 144Hz with GSync so I don't have much experience to compare. If I can use a car analogy, having a high refresh rate with no GSync is like having lots of power but terrible NVH. It detracts from the experience but I would still value putting more money into power over NVH. In a perfect world, if you could drive over perfect roads all the time it wouldn't be a problem (like if you could drive 144fps all day without dropping frames there'd be no point to GSync). But in reality it's an overall better experience if there were more balance between the two. But I still wouldn't pay GSync money for a cheap monitor with it just like I wouldn't buy a Geo Metro built with the finest leather from Corinth. It's hard to justify the cost of that one feature when it's such a high percentage of the overall cost.

So the question is between 60Hz and GSync versus 96Hz and no GSync? Ignoring cost, it really depends on how sensitive you are to screen tearing. If you can't live with it, then you should get the 60Hz. If you can, then 96Hz is a more noticeable enhancement. Personally I would go for the 96Hz; I rarely used Vsync before since I didn't like the side effects so I don't think I would miss it, but the high refresh makes a big difference. It's also more useful in non-gaming scenarios.


Subjunctive posted:

I would rather have gsync at 90Hz than non-gsync at 144Hz, at least for gaming. It lets me set my quality settings to target ~60 and not have big judder if it drops to 55 in a rough section. Otherwise I have to drop down until I'm mostly at 75, so that I don't ever fall below 60 and get 30.

Yeah I agree, if it's between 90Hz and 144Hz, then 90Hz is pretty good already and you're probably going to find it tough to reach and hold 144fps for most games.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph

DrDork posted:

You cannot. It's stupid as hell, and whoever designed it should be shot. That said, it's pretty easy to remove, so I wouldn't feel too scared of doing so.

It's hella dumb but it was under two hundred bucks for what's basically a slightly imperfect apple cinema display so I can deal. Is there a good/easy guide somewhere that isn't a half hour too long youtube video?

Also speaking of backlight bleed I also have a different Asian knockoff monitor, a UGEE 2150b tablet monitor that has a little bit of backlight bleed on the bottom edge,

This looks a decent amount worse in the picture than it does irl probably because of the angle and the motion on the screen, for example there's no bleed at all on the top but it looks like there is here


99% of the monitor's use case will be like this though, with manga studio or some other art program open and all the noticeable bleed stuck behind the taskbar where it doesn't really matter.


The glass part over the screen sticks out slightly from the plastic casing in the bottom middle where the bleed is the worst and when I push in on it it mostly goes away, I guess I was just wondering if there's an easy fix for that. Disassembling it or trying to return it to Hong Kong both don't seem worth the hassle for something that doesn't really affect what I use it for, and it's a minor defect considering it was a third the price of the competing $2k Wacom cintiq.

JacksAngryBiome
Oct 23, 2014
Is $120 shipped a good price for a used HP zr2440w that has 500 hours of use?

I want to get an ips display and have a $150 budget.

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

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JacksAngryBiome posted:

Is $120 shipped a good price for a used HP zr2440w that has 500 hours of use?

I want to get an ips display and have a $150 budget.

If you want to buy new you could get this one for well under your budget. That said the HP zr2440w is apparently a pretty nice monitor for it's time, but it is a four year old design now and panel tech has gotten better.

Futaba Anzu
May 6, 2011

GROSS BOY

Is there any comparison to whatever good monitors you guys are talking about in here to the Viewsonic VX2703mh-LED? I'm going to be needing a new second monitor soon, and I wanted to know if the viewsonic was good enough to act as a good color monitor to digitally paint in. That way, I could get another monitor specifically for playing games on.

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

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pandaK posted:

Is there any comparison to whatever good monitors you guys are talking about in here to the Viewsonic VX2703mh-LED? I'm going to be needing a new second monitor soon, and I wanted to know if the viewsonic was good enough to act as a good color monitor to digitally paint in. That way, I could get another monitor specifically for playing games on.

That one has a TN panel, so it's terrible for colors.

Slider
Jun 6, 2004

POINTS
Is this crossover the one to get?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Perfect-Pixel-CROSSOVER-27QHD-IPS-LED-27-2560X1440-LG-S-IPS-PC-Monitor-Glossy-/111179087780?hash=item19e2ca3fa4

Its showing as $260 to me, seems like the price went down if this is the right one.

VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
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Slider posted:

Is this crossover the one to get?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Perfect-Pixel-CROSSOVER-27QHD-IPS-LED-27-2560X1440-LG-S-IPS-PC-Monitor-Glossy-/111179087780?hash=item19e2ca3fa4

Its showing as $260 to me, seems like the price went down if this is the right one.

No, that's the old one that switched to bad panels. You're looking for a 2795qhd.

Mokhu
Mar 3, 2004

NCAA Hopesman Winner 2008
Fallen Rib
Hey guys. Just checking in to say the crossover arrived and is working great. Thank you BurritoJustice for the suggestion, loving it. I just overclocked it, and it appears to be working.

I set it to 96hz and it works like a charm. Not sure if I should (or even care to) push it further but absolutely no flickers or dead pixels from what I could tell.

Coredump
Dec 1, 2002

Mokhu posted:

Hey guys. Just checking in to say the crossover arrived and is working great. Thank you BurritoJustice for the suggestion, loving it. I just overclocked it, and it appears to be working.

I set it to 96hz and it works like a charm. Not sure if I should (or even care to) push it further but absolutely no flickers or dead pixels from what I could tell.
Have you done one of those online frame check sites to make sure it's not dropping frames? I'm sure it's working but just out of curiosity.

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

Picked up my XB270HU and oh man it's so nice. I can't find any dead pixels and the IPS backlight bleed seems super minor - noticeable only with the screen unplugged. Couldn't be happier.

bustercasey
Apr 9, 2012
Gary’s Answer
I am looking to get a full hd monitor for games while keeping my tv for media. I've settled on this LG monitor ($160 usd) as a good deal/what I'm looking for. Just wondering if anyone wanted to chime in before I buy it.

Zorilla
Mar 23, 2005

GOING APE SPIT

bustercasey posted:

I am looking to get a full hd monitor for games while keeping my tv for media. I've settled on this LG monitor ($160 usd) as a good deal/what I'm looking for. Just wondering if anyone wanted to chime in before I buy it.

25" ultrawides are tiny and are only about as tall as a 15-17" 4:3 screen. 29" or larger is recommended. These things are cheap enough that you can usually find one like it on display at Best Buy so you can see for yourself.

Coredump
Dec 1, 2002

Zorilla posted:

25" ultrawides are tiny and are only about as tall as a 15-17" 4:3 screen. 29" or larger is recommended. These things are cheap enough that you can usually find one like it on display at Best Buy so you can see for yourself.

This man speaks the truth. You wanna go big with an ultra wide.

bustercasey
Apr 9, 2012
Gary’s Answer
Any suggestions for a non-ultra wide monitor that'd be around that price point? I don't necessarily need a huge monitor, just looking for something different than the 1366x768 tv I've been using.

Zorilla
Mar 23, 2005

GOING APE SPIT

bustercasey posted:

Any suggestions for a non-ultra wide monitor that'd be around that price point? I don't necessarily need a huge monitor, just looking for something different than the 1366x768 tv I've been using.

$190 will get you the usual recommendation for an off-grade QNIX 27" 2560x1440 monitor. Most people report nothing worse than a dead pixel or two (more likely to be tiny speaks of dust than actual pixel defects) and a small amount of bleed. In other words, the kind of thing you deal with no matter how much you're spending on a monitor.

This should give you roughly the same pixel density and width as a 25" ultrawide, but with tons more vertical real estate.

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

Until you get to 34", ultrawides aren't really wider good monitors, they're shorter good monitors, and that's a huge difference. Having a bit over 1200 pixels height is enough height for most anything, and from there going as wide is possible is good until you get to ~40" 4K screens where you finally gain enough height to add more windows without making them too short and/or giving up on width. That's why ultrawide 34s are so fantastic. However a 2560x1080 is just a 2560x1440 with the top lopped off.

bustercasey
Apr 9, 2012
Gary’s Answer
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll look into that and probably end up raising my price point for the added benefits. I'm currently running a GTX 960, so until I bump that up, I might just have to go cheap or hold off and save up.

mega dy
Dec 6, 2003

I saw in the reddit monitors thread that the PG279Q is available and in-stock (now out of stock) on newegg.

Desperately trying to avoid buying one until it hits Microcenter for ease of return.

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

So have contrast ratios improved, or do they still just multiply by 5000 and call it a day? I've been out of the game for a while.

MrNemo
Aug 26, 2010

"I just love beeting off"

Quick question to this thread, I recently came home after some time abroad to find that having set up my computer for my mother to use for work (she's got a ridiculously slow old PC that can literally chug for 60-90 seconds after you launch an application) I found it disassembled with all the cables gone and peripherals being used on the old PC. Fine, whatever she likes her old computer but the cables are all just gone and no idea where to, annoying but not much to replace.

The exception seems to be the AC adapter for my LG monitor, it's an E2040S, cheap but it worked well and I don't really want to to drop the cash on replacing it if I can avoid it. My problem is the official replacement parts seem to have been discontinued. I know I need a 12V, 3A adapter but having ordered one I have to return it because the DC plug is the wrong sort (the monitor needs a ~6mm one with a centre pin in the jack). I'm looking for any goon recommendations on solutions as I'd much rather spend GBP40 on a power block than 200 on a new monitor but I'm not sure what I'm looking for or what I can do to replace things since the DC jack doesn't seem to have any standardised labelling.

Just in case, electrical stuff like rewiring the jack on the adapter is out because I have no tools and don't trust myself with simple tasks.

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

Spatial posted:

So have contrast ratios improved, or do they still just multiply by 5000 and call it a day? I've been out of the game for a while.

I think *VA and some IPS are steadily pushing up actual numbers (as in measured by reviews), but for a big shift we'll probably want oled to start working right.

Futaba Anzu
May 6, 2011

GROSS BOY

So what advantages does the Dell U2715H have over the Crossover 2795QHD that could convince me to put an extra $100 on it? Right now I'm sort of leaning on the Crossover since it would cover both gaming and art needs. Does the Dell have better color reproduction or do Crossovers tend to have higher dead pixel counts or something?

VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
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pandaK posted:

So what advantages does the Dell U2715H have over the Crossover 2795QHD that could convince me to put an extra $100 on it? Right now I'm sort of leaning on the Crossover since it would cover both gaming and art needs. Does the Dell have better color reproduction or do Crossovers tend to have higher dead pixel counts or something?

The Dell probably has better inputs and color out of the box, and the stand is much nicer. I'm not sure which models are calibrated out of the box, though. That said, the Crossover will have less input lag, can overclock and is cheaper.

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

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VulgarandStupid posted:

The Dell probably has better inputs and color out of the box, and the stand is much nicer. I'm not sure which models are calibrated out of the box, though. That said, the Crossover will have less input lag, can overclock and is cheaper.

All Ultrasharps are pre-calibrated. Really the big things are the inputs and the much, much better stand.

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Futaba Anzu
May 6, 2011

GROSS BOY

Or even on that note, are TN panels really that much worse than IPS in terms of color reproduction if you're planning on using them as a main monitor? What exactly about IPS panels make them that much better for colors straight on?

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