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e_angst posted:The whole "Austin is so white" line is concern-trolling bullshit from people outside of Austin who want to try and find some kind of flaw with the place. Meanwhile they are sitting in cities that are fully under the thumb of evangelical churches, real estate developers, and/or the oil industry. Or they're in suburbs that as so segregated they make Austin look like the Bronx (hint: don't try and talk about how Dallas is so much more diverse than Austin when you actually live in Plano). You don't actually dispute that Austin is the most segregated major city in Texas, but you think people only point that out because they're irrationally mad at Austin?
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Aliquid posted:Fun Fun Fun Fest had a pretty drat good lineup this year. As a whimsically ironic Austinite, Gogol Bordello would have been cool to see. Also, as a whimsically ironic Austinite, I can't afford even second-tier festivals like FFFF The price increase the past couple years made it too much for me this year, but then the week leading into it, all my friends started selling their passes since they couldn't make it. Luckily the weather was bad enough I didn't feel bad about not taking them up on the discounted price.
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boom boom boom posted:You don't actually dispute that Austin is the most segregated major city in Texas, but you think people only point that out because they're irrationally mad at Austin? Austin's segregation is nothing compared to DFW, but because that metroplex is splintered into a ton of suburbs (some of which were still practicing what was basically loving redlining as recently as 2014) it makes the numbers for the actual city of Dallas appears more diverse. The problems Austin has with race are the exact same problems that we have in the entire rest of the state. And people who ignore the massive race problems in the rest of the state (including in the other major cities and their surrounding suburbs) to call out Austin are being for having those same problems are, at best, amazingly disingenuous.
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Kinda hard to put "Austin is no worse than the rest of Texas " as a defense when the mantra has been how laid back and liberal Austin is compared to the rest of Texas.
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e_angst posted:Austin's segregation is nothing compared to DFW, but because that metroplex is splintered into a ton of suburbs (some of which were still practicing what was basically loving redlining as recently as 2014) it makes the numbers for the actual city of Dallas appears more diverse. I don't think people think Austin is necessarily worse, just that we like to pretend we're way better than everywhere else in the state.
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Well, from the west coast, you look like a Portland with worse weather surrounded by worse people and probably just as racist except with more people from California. Sure sounds appealing.
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Shes In Parties posted:Well, from the west coast, you look like a Portland with worse weather surrounded by worse people and probably just as racist except with more people from California. Sure sounds appealing. Hey now, at least Austin wasn't founded to be a white people's paradise free from the black man.
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Christ, is there any city anywhere that doesn't suck for one reason or another? Or at least one where the people who live there don't get into pointless dick measuring contests with people from other cities over meaningless bullshit?
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Christ, is there any city anywhere that doesn't suck for one reason or another? Or at least one where the people who live there don't get into pointless dick measuring contests with people from other cities over meaningless bullshit? I'm pretty sure there is historical records of ancient cities building giant wooden dicks to determine which city was better. Its been a few years since College Station tried 
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Christ, is there any city anywhere that doesn't suck for one reason or another? Or at least one where the people who live there don't get into pointless dick measuring contests with people from other cities over meaningless bullshit? Well, you don't hear much about Lubbock outside of Texas Tech stuff because its residents know it's loving Lubbock. Also, San Antonio is pretty good.
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Trabisnikof posted:Hey now, at least Austin wasn't founded to be a white people's paradise free from the black man. Agreed, gently caress Vidor.
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Trabisnikof posted:Hey now, at least Austin wasn't founded to be a white people's paradise free from the black man. It just turned out that way
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Shes In Parties posted:Well, from the west coast, you look like a Portland with worse weather surrounded by worse people and probably just as racist except with more people from California. Sure sounds appealing. Portland with worse weather?  Yes, because 9 months of overcast/rainy weather is "good". Also, Portland hipsters are insufferably elitist, whereas Austin hipsters are just laid back and weird. hth
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Badger of Basra posted:I don't think people think Austin is necessarily worse, just that we like to pretend we're way better than everywhere else in the state. Yea it's this. I don't think anyone thinks Austin is the hellhole of Texas, but when people from there pretend like they're some beacon of light us unwashed barbarians could learn from when really we're all about the same levels of poo poo when it's all said and done then that's annoying and dumb. enraged_camel posted:Portland with worse weather? Also this, at least Austin's brand of hipster is just kinda condescending but mostly just wants to chill out and tell you about their dumb one man show art show or stand up routine that's totally gonna change everything buddy. I'll take those guys over the PNW breed of passive aggressive boring nerds any day.
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computer parts posted:Literally every argument I heard against it was the trans people in bathrooms. So basically because LGB weren't willing to throw T under the bus (like what has happened historically) to get their goals accomplished. It has more to do with an abysmal GOTV effort by the Yes on 1 organization that funneled all of their money into getting rich white liberal yuppies to vote and did nothing in the way of minority outreach or running any kind of effective advertising
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Trabisnikof posted:I'm pretty sure there is historical records of ancient cities building giant wooden dicks to determine which city was better. JESUS this post right here. 
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1) gently caress Vidor. I hear they are trying to put their reputation behind them but I'm not gonna try and find out. 2) Whenever I hear people say Portland, I think of Portland, Tx, which I used to live near. 3) Austin wins the award for me of the city full of stuff that white people like.
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Austin is the only place I know that has Death Metal Pizza. Long Live Austin
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Christ, is there any city anywhere that doesn't suck for one reason or another? Or at least one where the people who live there don't get into pointless dick measuring contests with people from other cities over meaningless bullshit? Cities were horrible until about 1999.
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So A&M is making an rear end out of themselves defending the idea that they invented and own the term "12th Man".quote:Texas A&M University sued the Indianapolis Colts on Thursday in an effort to stop the National Football League team from using the phrase “12th man” to describe its fans. It would be very interesting if the Colts actually decided to fight this, especially if it results in A&M losing the trademark.
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e_angst posted:So A&M is making an rear end out of themselves defending the idea that they invented and own the term "12th Man". e_angst posted:So A&M is making an rear end out of themselves defending the idea that they invented and own the term "12th Man". Actively defending your trademark when other people use it is required in order to keep a hold of the trademark. The claim was strong enough when they did this with the Seahawks a decade ago that the Seahawks signed a licensing deal with the university.
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Yea as stupid as it sounds when you actually say "A&M is telling the Colts they actually own the term '12th man' regarding football" but that's just straight up how trademarks work. If you let one thing slip then fifty other people can come up saying 'oh so HE gets to use it? Cool I can too then!"
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Yea as stupid as it sounds when you actually say "A&M is telling the Colts they actually own the term '12th man' regarding football" but that's just straight up how trademarks work. If you let one thing slip then fifty other people can come up saying 'oh so HE gets to use it? Cool I can too then!" The fact that they were able to trademark such a generic term (whose origins at A&M are dubious at best) is pretty ridiculous. The Seahawks decided not to fight it and settled for a very small amount. If the Colts were to actually try and fight this, it would be interesting to see if A&M would be able to actually keep the trademark.
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e_angst posted:The fact that they were able to trademark such a generic term (whose origins at A&M are dubious at best) is pretty ridiculous. The Seahawks decided not to fight it and settled for a very small amount. If the Colts were to actually try and fight this, it would be interesting to see if A&M would be able to actually keep the trademark. Extremely generic terms are trademarked all the time. I'm loving it? It's the real thing?
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e_angst posted:The whole "Austin is so white" line is concern-trolling bullshit from people outside of Austin who want to try and find some kind of flaw with the place. Meanwhile they are sitting in cities that are fully under the thumb of evangelical churches, real estate developers, and/or the oil industry. Or they're in suburbs that as so segregated they make Austin look like the Bronx (hint: don't try and talk about how Dallas is so much more diverse than Austin when you actually live in Plano). But what's the beef with Plano? It is arguably more diverse than Austin. But that's a testament to how much Plano has changed in the past 10 years. http://www.texasmonthly.com/the-daily-post/texass-cities-one-big-dysfunctional-family/ BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 08:37 on Nov 13, 2015 |
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Omi-Polari posted:I've heard that in Houston. But oh, people in Austin say that too. This is bound up in gentrification, which is a more intense issue in the city because of East Austin's proximity to downtown. It's a very real issue. But there's another fact: Austin is actually becoming less white (or less Anglo) every year. The city is becoming more Hispanic and there's no signs of that slowing anytime soon. Becoming more Hispanic is a trait Austin shares with the rest of the country.
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enraged_camel posted:Becoming more Hispanic is a trait Austin shares with the rest of the country. Yeah, about the only place that's not becoming true is San Francisco.
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In the end humanity will be one grotesque amalgamation of everyone anyway so what does it matter.
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oldpainless posted:In the end humanity will be one grotesque amalgamation of everyone anyway so what does it matter. I don't think race mixing is grotesque, but okay.
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beep boop
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Omi-Polari posted:I've heard that in Houston. Have they ever been to Houston? "White" is not how I would characterize the city at all.
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This Texas Tribune article is both relevant to the discussion and one I think you guys might find interesting to read.
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The Supreme Court has decided to hear the case on HB 2.
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oldpainless posted:beep boop He has a fitting name, doesn't he?
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Supreme Court Accepts Texas Abortion Law Casequote:The Supreme Court on Friday agreed to hear a challenge to a Texas law that would leave the state with about 10 abortion clinics, down from more than 40. The court has not heard a major abortion case since 2007, and the new case has the potential to affect millions of women and to revise the constitutional principles governing abortion rights.
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This, along with the UT affirmative action case, will be a real litmus test to determine of Texas has fulfilled its role of being the place where conservatives are successfully able to strike the wedge issues that tear down fundamental liberal institutions. The best-case scenario is that things remain in the status quo. The worst-case scenario, abortion rights and affirmative action are effectively gutted and become a thing of the past.
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Waller County, facing a wrongful death suit in the Sandra Bland case, has employed an interesting legal strategy:quote:But the 39-page motion makes another, more explosive claim, as well: The blame for Bland’s suicide, it asserts, lies with her friends and family for not helping her secure the $515 dollars she needed to make bail.
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Numlock posted:Have they ever been to Houston? "White" is not how I would characterize the city at all.
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blackguy32 posted:3) Austin wins the award for me of the city full of stuff that white people like. A recent article in Texas Monthly about the housing situation in SA/Austin/Dallas/Houston made the exact same joke.
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Texas Monthly is so much better now that I don't have to flip through 50 pages of ads for stuff I could never afford.
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