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I like that when Zoom showed up, the commercial break cut-to was blue lightning. Also notable is Cisco still being a fuckup when it comes to containing female metas, and Wells not knowing his name. (He probably thought Cisco's name was " 'Crisco' Ramon".) Cisco was having fun with those cardboard standups: everyone else seemed to have a file photo while had a variety of poses. This show is aces when it comes to production design. Earth-2 is very weird if it has VERTICAL TELEVISIONS.
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Golden Bee posted:I like that when Zoom showed up, the commercial break cut-to was blue lightning. I bet they take verticals movies on their phones too. The darkest universe
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Nov 11, 2015 22:00
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Golden Bee posted:I like that when Zoom showed up, the commercial break cut-to was blue lightning. I assumed Wells called him Crisco just to be a dick.
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Nov 11, 2015 22:04
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AbsolutelySane posted:I assumed Wells called him Crisco just to be a diiiiiiiiiiick. You're doing it wrong, I fixed it for you I've mostly been watching the show on Hulu, so the added length with the commercials made the episode feel like it was dragging on really badly when watching it live. Then we get Zoom popping up and painting the streets with Barry's face and it felt like it took two seconds.
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Nov 11, 2015 22:07
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Confused that people are acting like Zoom is so grimdark when RevFlash was presented like a horror movie villain too. Remember when he beat Wells bloody in the forcefield containment thing? (Before it turned out Wells!Thawne did that to HIMSELF?) Sure he had a silly yellow suit and Zoom has claws, but otherwise they're presented as remarkably similar villains. The implied backbreak was a little more brutal I guess. But given that Cait and Cisco didn't notice a fractured spine (surely she ran some scans) I'm wondering if it's going to turn out to be psychosomatic or some bullshit. VagueRant fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Nov 11, 2015 |
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VagueRant posted:Confused that people are acting like Zoom is so grimdark when RevFlash was presented like a horror movie villain too. Remember when he beat Wells bloody in the forcefield containment thing? (Before it turned out Wells!Thawne did that to HIMSELF?) You mean in show? None of them actually saw Thawne outside of Team Flash.
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VagueRant posted:But given that Cait and Cisco didn't notice a fractured spine (surely she ran some scans) I'm wondering if it's going to turn out to be psychosomatic or some bullshit. If IF this is the case it'll be such bullshit. 
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Nov 11, 2015 22:29
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They already did the psychosomatic thing with his speed in season 1.
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Mr Beens posted:I still don't really get why they had to have the mock fight For the same reason that Barry didn't just tell Patty he was blind last episode: because it led to a fun, silly scene. Stop thinking of this show in terms of reality. It has no interest in being realistic or depicting true to life people making sensible decisions. The characters in The Flash are very obviously television characters, who make decisions that make no sense logically, but that lead to interesting, entertaining, or dramatic situations for the purposes of entertaining the viewer.
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Nov 11, 2015 22:37
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Aphrodite posted:They already did the psychosomatic thing with his speed in season 1. They also already did the evil speedster thing in season 1.
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VagueRant posted:Confused that people are acting like Zoom is so grimdark when RevFlash was presented like a horror movie villain too. Remember when he beat Wells bloody in the forcefield containment thing? (Before it turned out Wells!Thawne did that to HIMSELF?) There was a really conspicuous cracking sound when Zoom punched him in the back, I don't think it's psychosomatic. It should heal, though, since Barry still has his powers. The biggest issue I have with the Zoom plot is that a lot of it feels like a Season 1 retread. We've already seen a speedster beat the poo poo out of Barry, and, the awesomeness of Zoom aside, this all feels incredibly repetitive. I wish they'd found something/someone else to be the season big bad and saved Zoom for another season.
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They fix that by not having the team beat him, just have him disappear into the speed force or whatever for a little bit. Bring him back in 5 years.
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:
This was good, thanks. On another note, I'm curious what Barry will tell Patty about his new condition. It's gonna be another awkward-as-gently caress lie ("I... uh, I got hit by a car!") and Patty will get ultra suspicious and start digging.
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My name is Barry Allen, and I was the fastest man alive. To the outside world I'm an ordinary forensic scientist, but secretly with the help of my friends at STAR Labs, I got my rear end handed to me and managed to get crippled in my first one on one fight with a metahuman speedster. I hunted down the man who killed my mother but in doing so, I assumed I could take on anyone 1 on 1, and vastly overestimated my fighting abilities. Now I am the fastest man on 2 wheels. I was, THE FLASH!
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greatn posted:Henry skipped town and didn't want out of jail because he was ashamed of cheating on Nora, which he was going to confess the night she was murdered. He had an affair with Joe's estranged wife, resulting in the birth of Wally West, aka Zoom To be honest, the thought of Zoom being Wally definitely crossed my mind. You've got mentions of earth 1 Wally, and we haven't seen him yet. He could be stacked like Zoom.
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Where was Jay in the last episode?
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Spacebump posted:Where was Jay in the last episode? Sulking in the corner because he's prideful.
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cool kids inc. posted:You've got mentions of earth 1 Wally, and we haven't seen him yet Wally: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2920533/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t9
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The only thing that annoyed me about this episode is that it sounded like they wrote off yet another character in a rather hasty way. Linda is now apparently "staying with friends at Coast City" according to Cisco. I hope she's back rather soon because it seems like a total waste to let her in on Barry's secret only to get her written off.
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enraged_camel posted:The only thing that annoyed me about this episode is that it sounded like they wrote off yet another character in a rather hasty way. Linda is now apparently "staying with friends at Coast City" according to Cisco. I hope she's back rather soon because it seems like a total waste to let her in on Barry's secret only to get her written off. She's actually in SuperGitmo just to make sure Barry's secret stays safe.
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So I was rewatching the last two episodes of last season since I was pumped from last night's episode, and when it got to the part, it reminded me of this quote from earlier in the thread:Phenotype posted:"By the way, this weird portal opened up in front of me a few months ago, so just for shits and giggles, I threw my hat in there. Have you guys seen it? Did it unnerve any bad guys who were nearby that might be familiar with me?" Anyway, I laughed again, so good job Phenotype
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mikeraskol posted:I thought he can see through the rifts. I'm imagining Zoom watching the whole fight through the rift with a  expression and just walking away shaking his head.
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The main reason Zoom is scarier than Reverse Flash from my perspective is Reverse Flash was more experienced and a better fighter than Barry, but seemed to concede Barry was actually faster than him, and he needed him to activate the time portal. RF could beat Barry because he knew all the speed tricks and knew how to fight. He could even go toe to toe with the Arrow without his speed. But he knew Barry was faster and would grow into someone more powerful than him. And RF never had any intention to actually kill Flash because he needed him. But now Barry knows the speed tricks, now he's a decent fighter, now he's faster than ever before, and Zoom just swatted him aside like he was nothing. And Zoom has EVERY intention of killing him.
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greatn posted:The main reason Zoom is scarier than Reverse Flash from my perspective is Reverse Flash was more experienced and a better fighter than Barry, but seemed to concede Barry was actually faster than him, and he needed him to activate the time portal. RF could beat Barry because he knew all the speed tricks and knew how to fight. He could even go toe to toe with the Arrow without his speed. No he doesn't. Otherwise he'd have killed him.
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greatn posted:But now Barry knows the speed tricks, now he's a decent fighter No he isn't. He gets his rear end kicked whenever it comes to any type of close combat fight.
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Phenotype posted:"By the way, this weird portal opened up in front of me a few months ago, so just for shits and giggles, I threw my hat in there. Have you guys seen it? Did it unnerve any bad guys who were nearby that might be familiar with me?" 
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Drifter posted:No he doesn't. Otherwise he'd have killed him. That's what he was about to do before Cisco shot him.
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Drifter posted:No he doesn't. Otherwise he'd have killed him. He was about to when he got hit by a speed sapping dart and decided to be cautious and get the gently caress out of there.
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Oh yeah. I forgot about that part. Good call.
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Aphrodite posted:That's what he was about to do before Cisco shot him. Barry's lucky Zoom has a taste for theatrics. Of course, he's proven he can reach out and touch anyone, anywhere, so I'm not sure why he's using Earth-2 thugs to take on Barry. I mean, that wasn't even a fight. Considering Cisco's dart didn't do anything to his speed in any appreciable way, I'm not so sure he was planning on killing Barry. Barry really should be spending time in Star City training.
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Didn't Zoom hit Barry with a speed-sapping dart earlier in the fight? Or did I imagine that?
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I'm thinking the dart took a few seconds or minutes to take effect so he got the gently caress out. He did hit Barry with it earlier so he couldn't fight back.
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It was pretty funny to see Barry start to lap the headquarters to build up his lightning charge while Zoom just stands there. Like, for us I'm sure Barry'd've been too fast to even bee a blur, but for Zoom it must've been like watching a high school kid running on a quarter mile track - just slowly plodding along.
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Aphrodite posted:That's what he was about to do before Cisco shot him. Goddammit, Cisco! Double tap!
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Drifter posted:It was pretty funny to see Barry start to lap the headquarters to build up his lightning charge while Zoom just stands there. Like, for us I'm sure Barry'd've been too fast to even bee a blur, but for Zoom it must've been like watching a high school kid running on a quarter mile track - just slowly plodding along. That did come across as a "What the hell does this idiot think he's doing..?" moment where Zoom just wanted to see what the hell the end-point for it was first before stomping him flat. Since Jay never had pulled off the thunderbolt hadouken thing IIRC it makes sense Zoom didn't know exactly what it was.
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It may be just coincidence but... John Wesley Shipp 2010 Batman: The Brave and the Bold Professor Zoom Voice only Still going with him being Zoom
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Zebulon posted:That did come across as a "What the hell does this idiot think he's doing..?" moment where Zoom just wanted to see what the hell the end-point for it was first before stomping him flat. Since Jay never had pulled off the thunderbolt hadouken thing IIRC it makes sense Zoom didn't know exactly what it was. And then he figured it out like a boss and just ran with it.
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Drifter posted:And then he figured it out like a boss and just ran with it. Slammed that poo poo down like a boss. Reverse Flash/Thawne just wanted to use Barry as a means to an end. He hated him, but he needed him. Zoom wants to steal his speed, humiliate him, and cripple him. That's the big difference and what, so far, makes Zoom the far more intimidating villain. Zebulon fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Nov 12, 2015 |
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Zebulon posted:Slammed that poo poo down like a boss. Reverse Flash/Thawne just wanted to use Barry as a means to an end. He hated him, but he needed him. Zoom wants to steal his speed, humiliate him, and cripple him. That's the big difference and what, so far, makes Zoom the far more intimidating villain. But not as funny of one.
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enraged_camel posted:The only thing that annoyed me about this episode is that it sounded like they wrote off yet another character in a rather hasty way. Linda is now apparently "staying with friends at Coast City" according to Cisco. I hope she's back rather soon because it seems like a total waste to let her in on Barry's secret only to get her written off. They did it this way so when she next appears we can have drama over "Is she Earth 1 Linda or Earth 2 Linda?"
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