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bacalou posted:buy me fallout 4 *sighs, pulls out wallet* |
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pogi posted:*sighs, pulls out wallet* yessss  
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Nov 11, 2015 02:43
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I played fallout for for 6 hours because i have tomorrow off and just the community building portion of the game is better than a lot of games in their entirety.
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Nov 11, 2015 10:09
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i really like how they've solved the problem with crafting from the previous games, like, fallout 3, you'd occasionally pick up the odds and ends, vacuum cleaner bits, spools of wire, whatever, thinking, 'well, I'm close on my inventory capacity anyway but I might need this for crafting later', then inevitably you'd look at a recipe to craft something and then look over at your pile of junk and no, you don't have that thing. breaking it into components (which are basically currency), you actually start to get a feel for the worth of random garbage laying around instead of just like 'hey, a vacuum cleaner, that's used in (wiki's it) two recipes, cool' it's still completely full of bethesdaisms of random groups of poorly defined people being like 'whoa, a new guy... I trust this new guy a lot, I really respect you and you are obviously special in some way. please solve all our problems for us' happening basically constantly, but so far worth the price of admission for the one area I fought through and got to the end where there was a fancy gun on the table and I go whoa! *looks past the gun* A office desk fan! That's got like six screws! awesome! *grabs fan and goes back to base* |
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Nov 11, 2015 10:50
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i played fallout 4 for an hour and i hate it because it makes no effort to ease this 50s mom waking up 200 years in the future into her hellish new reality, and she just spends 10 minutes going "is everyone dead????" and then she's super stoked about getting to shoot up some raiders with a minigun and yelling RAAARRR DIE while fighting a deathclaw
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Nov 11, 2015 12:29
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i know that sounds rad when i say it out loud but it's actually really lame an awkward and for fucks sake i cannot stand bethesda's writers
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Nov 11, 2015 12:30
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i waltz into town having never killed a man and i just start capping raiders and offering to kill the rest the entire sequence after waking up needs, like, two more hours and some room for the PC to get used to things. i do not care about the rest of the game it's whatever, but when you set up a character with a prewritten history+make them voiced it makes things hella awkward when they're suddenly hella into murder how hard would it have been to have like some dudes in the town before concord that attack you to get stay at home mom a chance to learn that she's gonna have to murder people before having me solve the problems of random strangers Pomp fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Nov 11, 2015 ---------------- |
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Nov 11, 2015 12:36
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Fallout 1 - You get wrapped up in some poo poo while trying to find a dumb chip, some people try to kill you Fallout 2 - You've lived in the wasteland your entire life Even Fallout 3 understood this basic poo poo, even if that was also really bad in other ways. Fallout New Vegas - You've worked in the wasteland forever and a half, you know the deal Fallout 4 - You wander into town and start murdering people unprovoked with no knowledge of the situation. You scream like a berserker every five seconds. You jump into some power armor and kill seven more people, and scream some more. You were looking at your weird rear end baby with your husband less than 30 minutes ago, by your own perception. ---------------- |
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Nov 11, 2015 12:45
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Nov 11, 2015 12:46
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i played until I got to diamond city and had to deal with that person whose personality was ripped straight from newsies. it's a really fun & beautiful game I just wish bethesda was better at writing people
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Nov 11, 2015 13:18
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Pomp posted:Fallout 4 - You wander into town and start murdering people unprovoked with no knowledge of the situation. You scream like a berserker every five seconds. You jump into some power armor and kill seven more people, and scream some more. You were looking at your weird rear end baby with your husband less than 30 minutes ago, by your own perception. i mean i guess i'm not seeing the problem here ---------------- |
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Nov 11, 2015 14:01
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I'm gonna play tales of vestiria instead of fallout 4 because I love anime and anime accessories |
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Nov 11, 2015 14:04
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I named my character Kirk Johnson, and now I have voiced NPCs calling me Mr. Johnson |
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Nov 11, 2015 14:28
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If I was a 50s housewife I'd be extremely stoked to go to sleep and wake up free and allowed shoot miniguns. It's probably not quite like that though |
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Nov 11, 2015 14:45
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gently caress. marry. t-rex posted:If I was a 50s housewife I'd be extremely stoked to go to sleep and wake up free and allowed shoot miniguns. It actually kinda is, if you pick the right dialogue options. ---------------- |
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Nov 11, 2015 15:59
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the password to that console was goons |
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Nov 11, 2015 16:25
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I mean you're a repressed 50's housewife with a dead baby its a miracle you don't kill things sooner |
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Nov 11, 2015 16:27
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Nov 11, 2015 17:48
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Yeah, Pomp, I agree on all points there. I mean the abduction is certainly an inciting incident for a traditional Hero's journey sort of thing, but the protagonist basically mutters to them self for a few minutes then immediately sets about murdering anybody whose name is red in their little computer screen. I think it's another product of market research, like the capability to become the leader of most factions even though it makes no sense, they found fans overall played skyrim more or less completely ignoring the plot so they decide to prioritize the wandering murderhobo sim over the story. |
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Nov 11, 2015 19:31
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'settled down and tried to move on, eventually murdered by raiders in their sleep.' doesn't make for a great premise tho
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Nov 11, 2015 20:58
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it's the post-apocalypse, you gotta wrap that football shoulder pad around your bubbling flesh, dehumanize yourself and face to bloodshed.
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Nov 11, 2015 20:59
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i mean yeah it would be more 'human' if your character lost control upon looting the umpteenth bathroom only to come face to face with their grizzled visage in the dirty mirror of a bygone era but lets be real. we're talking about a game where giant irradiated mutants act as quarterback for a thermonuclear device intent on stuffing itself down your precious existence. have you seen the vault instructional survival series? they knew what they were getting into.
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Nov 11, 2015 21:07
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imo its completely reasonable for Kirk Johnson, sole survivor of vault 111 to look down at his blood-soaked hands after murdering some raiders for their clothes and think, poo poo, 200 years ago i just had poop all over my hands from changing diapers and that loving sucked and cait is more woman than my anonymous dead wife ever was. i mean, he's a war hero in the story right? he's probably ptsd'd as gently caress (war, war never changes) and onyl really knows how to function in the midst of a maelstrom of death. when life gives you lemons, make lemonade from the flesh of those who oppose you
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Nov 11, 2015 21:50
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Yeah the pc is a war veteran who sees his wife and possibly baby, gets out of the vault and sees everyone he knows is dead and his home is destroyed, dont think its unreasonable for him to go into murder mode.
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Nov 11, 2015 22:46
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your pc can also be the non war vet woman
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Nov 11, 2015 22:51
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What's the difference?
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Nov 11, 2015 22:57
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Ace of Baes posted:I played fallout for for 6 hours because i have tomorrow off and just the community building portion of the game is better than a lot of games in their entirety. even tho i have no interest in that type of game at all & got really mad at the quest that made you do the settlement building crap i realize it is probably a really great implementation of it if you enjoy that sort of thing "first, do no harm" |
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Nov 11, 2015 23:01
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bacalou posted:'settled down and tried to move on, eventually murdered by raiders in their sleep.' doesn't make for a great premise tho Nobody is saying she should have tried to move on, it's just normal people don't try to gun down the first humans they see after something like this. Like, cops that shoot someone in the line of duty have mandatory psychological counseling and stuff. Progressing from a lawyer and a mom to a cold-blooded killer should be more complicated. Who told her the rules of the wasteland? Nobody, she just starts killing people right away. Literally the first human beings you see, you are expected to murder. You don't even have the option to shout and try to reason with the people you find. |
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Nov 11, 2015 23:16
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joke_explainer posted:Nobody is saying she should have tried to move on, it's just normal people don't try to gun down the first humans they see after something like this. Like, cops that shoot someone in the line of duty have mandatory psychological counseling and stuff. Progressing from a lawyer and a mom to a cold-blooded killer should be more complicated. Who told her the rules of the wasteland? Nobody, she just starts killing people right away. Literally the first human beings you see, you are expected to murder. You don't even have the option to shout and try to reason with the people you find. You have the option to not kill the wateland raiders but you die, similar to what would happen irl ---------------- |
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Nov 11, 2015 23:20
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literally all of the vault-tec media provided paints the wasteland in a hostile and unforgiving light. considering the timeline of events leading up to the great war and the society which they live in it's easy to assume they're used to ultraviolence and disassociative to a high degree. most people didn't even head for the fallout shelters when the sirens started going and here's this woman who just watched her entire life and family crumble to dust around her. she's probably in shock and in survival mode, running off of the only bits of information provided to her: the vault tec nuclear prep films. to quote the S.P.E.C.I.A.L. perception video: "these frightening menaces will come in all different shapes and sizes, and pose an immediate threat to your survival. you must learn to deal with these dangers." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw21X2jKwCM i mean poo poo, they specifically made VATS for ease of murderin'
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Nov 11, 2015 23:29
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TIL which of us do not have the moxie to withstand total atomic annihilation
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Nov 11, 2015 23:33
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I don't think some cutesy instructional videos are going to turn anybody into a hardened murderer. The game makes basically no attempt at having a coherent story and it's silly that you're trying to do the writer's work for them, filling in the gaps with stuff from the literature. Besides, in my play through my lady says 'What's Vault-Tec?' so her total exposure to the vault tec propaganda stuff is pretty low. When she exits the vault, she's like 'Is there anyone left alive?', showing she's clearly scared she won't find any living humans. Then she finds them and murders them. And a dude trusts her for no reason, opening the door for her (he doesn't even keep his weapon out in case you turned out to be a hostile raider as well, he's just like 'Hey, thanks for murdering those people, come on in.') One of the raiders should have tried that. 'Hey, I killed all the raiders, open up minuteman dude!' |
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Nov 11, 2015 23:39
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I'm assuming the raiders are decked out in fallout raider style too though? Just in my housewife dress gonna go hanging with the local desert punkz |
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Nov 11, 2015 23:53
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Well anyway I think Bethesda games suck especially Skyrim |
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Nov 11, 2015 23:54
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they're good if you like to explore and kill
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Nov 12, 2015 00:28
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Skyrim is good and fun to play.
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Nov 12, 2015 00:29
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drilldo squirt posted:Skyrim is good and fun to play. yarp |
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Nov 12, 2015 00:43
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joke_explainer posted:I don't think some cutesy instructional videos are going to turn anybody into a hardened murderer. joke_explainer posted:The game makes basically no attempt at having a coherent story and it's silly that you're trying to do the writer's work for them, filling in the gaps with stuff from the literature. joke_explainer posted:Besides, in my play through my lady says 'What's Vault-Tec?' so her total exposure to the vault tec propaganda stuff is pretty low. When she exits the vault, she's like 'Is there anyone left alive?', showing she's clearly scared she won't find any living humans. Then she finds them and murders them. joke_explainer posted:And a dude trusts her for no reason, opening the door for her (he doesn't even keep his weapon out in case you turned out to be a hostile raider as well, he's just like 'Hey, thanks for murdering those people, come on in.') One of the raiders should have tried that. 'Hey, I killed all the raiders, open up minuteman dude!'
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Nov 12, 2015 00:48
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after dragging a toy bear over my father's face for over 15 minutes in fallout 3, i slammed my controller down and screamed 'MY IMMERSION'
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