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bobbilljim posted:Can someone give us the low down? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T42I9jM9vS0
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Exclamation Marx posted:I'm so angry It was so upsetting. bobbilljim posted:Can someone give us the low down? I might get some of the details wrong, but as I understood it, female Green and Labour MPs were calling a point of order on Key for accusing Labour of backing rapists yesterday. More specifically, they were identifying themselves as victims of sexual violence who were upset by Key's comments and asking for it to be ruled unparliamentary. Metiria Turei, Jan Logie and Poto Williams all spoke, then Carter refused to let Catherine Delahunty and Nanaia Mahuta to speak, and finally he ejected Marama Davidson for trying to speak. At that point, the Greens and many of Labour's female MPs walked out.
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Nov 11, 2015 03:12
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Chris Hipkins seeks assurance that security won't impede anyone. Simon Bridges seeks insurance.
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Nov 11, 2015 03:17
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What makes it even more despicable is that it was calculated by Key. Saying what he did yesterday changes the focus from his failure to negotiate with Turnbull to the opposition being (rightfully) offended. Like, from media coverage you wouldn't know that Labour is wanting them to stay in Australia.
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Nov 11, 2015 03:19
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bobbilljim posted:Can someone give us the low down? Privileged, old white man told female victims of sexual assault to shut the gently caress up about their experience. Followed by said women walking out on Question Time.
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emminou posted:It was so upsetting. Vagabundo posted:Privileged, old white man told female victims of sexual assault to shut the gently caress up about their experience. Followed by said women walking out on Question Time. Wow. Disgusting.
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Nov 11, 2015 03:31
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It's almost as if the right wing capitalist man who assaulted a woman in her workplace over a week does not think highly of women.
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:It's almost as if the right wing capitalist man who assaulted a woman in her workplace over a week does not think highly of women. Yeah except this was the Speaker, Carter, not Key.
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Nov 11, 2015 03:56
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Taitale posted:Yeah except this was the Speaker, Carter, not Key. Key is refusing to apologise for his remarks because he's a shitbird. Part of the debate is trying to get Carter to force Key to apologise.
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Nov 11, 2015 04:01
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Another thing they're doing to confuse the issue is conflating crimes committed by people on Christmas Island with those committed by all 500-something NZers facing deportation, in an attempt to stop any sympathy for the people hanging themselves and being beaten bloody by prison guards (via Andrea Vance) compared to 
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It's pretty loving brilliant the the media has reported on this so terribly that now most of the NZ population apparently thinks Key is game-fully battling to prevent the deportation of rapists and kiddy-fiddlers to New Zealand, while Labour is welcoming them back with open arms. Interesting that Stuff.co.nz today has also elected to publish an article in praise of Dr Warren Farrell, and Erin Pizzey, two prominent anti-Feminist figures who argue that sexual and domestic violence reporting is biased in favour of women.
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Nov 11, 2015 07:38
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El Pollo Blanco posted:It's pretty loving brilliant the the media has reported on this so terribly that now most of the NZ population apparently thinks Key is game-fully battling to prevent the deportation of rapists and kiddy-fiddlers to New Zealand, while Labour is welcoming them back with open arms. Interesting that Stuff.co.nz today has also elected to publish an article in praise of Dr Warren Farrell, and Erin Pizzey, two prominent anti-Feminist figures who argue that sexual and domestic violence reporting is biased in favour of women. got links? i haven't bothered to watch the news in a long time and i only give stuff and the herald website a very cursory glance over
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Nov 11, 2015 08:49
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQjtmuf2RMQ Good speech, nice to see the piece of poo poo PMC Mark Mitchell defend his friend Mike Sabin
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How do I vote in the flag referendum if I'm based overseas?
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Nov 11, 2015 11:37
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Of the forty New Zealanders being detained on Australia's Christmas Island, one is a criminal who has been convicted of indecently assaulting a child. However none are rapists or murderers. Obviously how they're being treated is awful no matter what crimes they've committed, but this makes Key's comments even more inexcusable.
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Nov 11, 2015 19:11
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I hope nobody's actually going to believe him and not vote for Labour just because Key said that. At least the people who'd believe him weren't exactly going to support anything other than National anyway? Also as someone mentioned earlier what he's saying doesn't make any sense either, is he saying that these hypothetical "rapists and molesterers" should be brought back into New Zealand?
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Nov 11, 2015 22:00
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Looking forward to the John Oliver segment on this latest disgraceful embarrassment from Key.
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Nov 11, 2015 22:33
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Like the hair pulling this story seems to have some international legs. Stuff is reporting that the walkout was in several of the UK dailies while also reporting in a second story that Key is unrepentant and in fact doubling down.
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Nov 11, 2015 23:27
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The problem is the attention span of the average person has already been exceeded on this one; the last thing most people will remember about this is that Labour supports rapists.
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Nov 12, 2015 01:50
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Exclamation Marx posted:What makes it even more despicable is that it was calculated by Key. Saying what he did yesterday changes the focus from his failure to negotiate with Turnbull to the opposition being (rightfully) offended. Like, from media coverage you wouldn't know that Labour is wanting them to stay in Australia. Someone's been learning from old mate Lynton Crosby and his dead-cat-on-the-table tricks.
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Nov 12, 2015 02:19
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What a shocking and out of character response from the leader of our country.
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Nov 12, 2015 02:24
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http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/73964931/John-Key-unapologetic-over-rapist-remarks-says-abuse-hurled-at-him Everyone is forgetting that Key is the real victim here.
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Nov 12, 2015 03:08
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Look at that smug twat.
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Nov 12, 2015 03:10
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John Key is a no good jerk and I'm not afraid to say so.
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Varkk posted:http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/73964931/John-Key-unapologetic-over-rapist-remarks-says-abuse-hurled-at-him There is some pretty disgusting double speak here including this gem "...claimed he was the only person standing up for victims of crime" - these guys on Christmas island are victims for fucks sake. It's doesn't matter that you have gone to prison then gotten out, you can still be a victim. John key is really saying that he prioritises another countries citizens who have already had justice delivered to then over new Zealand citizens who he is elected to represent. What a oval office.
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Nov 12, 2015 03:25
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Nov 12, 2015 03:53
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Hopefully he continues to be abused.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCv3sl5GUag Good shoot @ 4:25
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Exclamation Marx posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCv3sl5GUag Haha loving rekt
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Davis laying down the critical burn and then dropping the mic. 
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Exclamation Marx posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCv3sl5GUag The thumbnail says it all #rekt
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Nov 12, 2015 04:40
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That was amazing. I love how incredibly quiet and nervous Carter is there as he gives the reason why he's trying to shut down the question, since the very fact he has to do so has, hmm, a lot of meaning that one could take away from it.
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Van Dine posted:That was amazing. I love how incredibly quiet and nervous Carter is there as he gives the reason why he's trying to shut down the question, since the very fact he has to do so has, hmm, a lot of meaning that one could take away from it. Both Carter & other National MPs have inadvertently broken suppression a number of times, bumbling around trying to explain why opposition questions/speeches are out of order: from 1:00 to about 4:00
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Exclamation Marx posted:
Where is this mythical beast of rational political discourse? People (on the internet anyway) keep talking about it as if it's a thing that actually exists but all politics everywhere appear to be and appear to always have been just a bunch of people shouting irrational poo poo toward eachother. Like is there a country where parliament (or equivalent thereof) actually works as intended, with people debating their views and compromising on policy and poo poo? I have never seen evidence that such a thing can even happen; indeed the very nature of human beings seems to make it unlikely if not totally impossible. What you posted looks identical to every political argument I've ever seen regardless of nation, policy or the people involved.
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Slavvy posted:Where is this mythical beast of rational political discourse? People (on the internet anyway) keep talking about it as if it's a thing that actually exists but all politics everywhere appear to be and appear to always have been just a bunch of people shouting irrational poo poo toward eachother. It's the exact opposite of reality
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Just changing topic for a second here for some important news: gently caress you Burger Fuel for loving up my order and giving me a disgusting loving peanut satay thing instead of the thing I actually ordered you fucks. I just wanted a 1/3rd pounder and goy gave me something that tasted like like someone urinated on some dirt, let alone you could have killed me had I happened to be allergic to peanuts because the burger was in the one labeled for what I ordered. gently caress you!
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Exclamation Marx posted:It's the exact opposite of reality Right, so what exactly is the point of attempting to force something that is clearly never going to happen and can't happen because of the intractable, cunty nature of people? Why not just toss all that poo poo in the bin and try to come up with something completely different? Politics reminds me of WW1. "If we just keep trying the same thing over and over again it's bound to work sooner or later!" BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:Just changing topic for a second here for some important news: I am literally on the way to burger fuel now and I won't hear you besmirch the peanut piston, prick.
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Slavvy posted:I am literally on the way to burger fuel now and I won't hear you besmirch the peanut piston, prick. It's loving trash and you're also trash!
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