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King Vidiot posted:Yeah that screenshot straight-up looks like Skyrim, that broadsword isn't helping. Obsidian is very very good at what they do (quest design, reactive dialogue, ect) but they do tend to get too much praise because of the large amount of bad luck heaped upon them.
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So the little steel shacks (the teardrop trailers) still let grass and stuff clip through the floor. Is there a good floor that doesn't let things clip through it?
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ethanol posted:they're all terrific, NV being ultra terrific. it takes getting used to, but seriously it's worth it Should I just gently caress it and play New Vegas first do you think? I'm not that fussed about getting the newest game really.
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Story Time... kind of spoilerish to purists, but not really. I'll mask it anyway, but feel free to read it because it's really not that spoilerish. Early game side stuff that's not even a quest. And I haven't even seen the end of this trail, so I don't know how it ends. In addition, don't spoil anything for me! I haven't seen this through yet. Even if nothing comes of this, I'd rather not know, because I'm going to try again tonight. I found a robot you might know named Professor Goodfeels. He's funny. I sent him home for repairs. He started booking it south, so I figured I'd see where he was heading. I got to thinking that if I follow him all the way to his destination, maybe there's a door or something that only he can open, or some little Easter Egg. He's easy to keep up with, but not if I stop for any reason. I managed to at least hit up a caravan on the way, since trading freezes time. We start going more south than I've ever been before, through areas I've never seen. It's neat to see it all, but I had to leave people to their doom in order to keep up with the Professor. Sorry people! A bit further on I turn a corner, and get ambushed by a legendary Super Mutant with friends. Dead. (Playing on Survival.) OK, I'll try again. This time it's ghouls. Dead. Now I start saving more often on this route down. This is turning into an escort mission of sorts. The encounters are random, so I make it through eventually. I finally get far enough that I reach a legendary Mister Gutsy with a skull. I hit F5 immediately and try to fight him. I die, of course, in like 3 shots. I try again a couple of times by eating every pill I have, but it's no good. I've yet to kill a legendary enemy and get any legendary gear, so I really want to win this fight. I decide to dial down the difficulty to normal and fight him. Professor Goodfeels actually stops to let me fight this guy, but he doesn't help. Even on normal, this guy is hard. What follows is a grisly series of fights. I died probably 10 times. After a couple of deaths I realized there was power armor a little down the road. Even that didn't help much, though. I'm playing on normal, but he's still a legendary with a skull. I finally finish Mister Gutsy off an bend down to take a look at my prize. Some piece of legendary armor. I don't get to even see what it does because the rear end in a top hat gets the last laugh by blowing up like a nuclear bomb! What a dick! Reload... I must have died or reloaded 40 times. Sometimes I'd win, but some ghouls would come out of nowhere to finish me off. One time even a Yaoguai came out of nowhere as I was finishing off Gutsy. All throughout this, Professor Goodfeels would sometimes get attacked by random ghouls and die, or car on the road would blow up from the crossfire and he'd die. I can't have that, so I'd need to reload. So many reloads... Eventually I win, and we're both safe. I get my fancy shoulder piece with -15% robot damage, and we continue along. Finally done! Not 30 goddamn feet from that fight is the largest Super Mutant encampment I've seen, surrounded by mines. At least 8 of them, and the first one just charges in with a mini nuke in his hand. Professor Goodfeels is running over landmines like it's his job, and it's hopeless. I reload a few times, but we get nowhere. I gave up. I must have wasted a total of 2 to 3 hours trying to escort that hippie home. I'm going to load my old save before I ever met him, and either wait for another day, or go clear out the path ahead of time. Or maybe I'll just walk straight to the destination and wait to see if he makes it on his own. There's probably not even anything to see other than the destination itself.
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Nov 12, 2015 18:14
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peter gabriel posted:Should I just gently caress it and play New Vegas first do you think? Yes. It's cheaper and it will be hard to go back to it after the gameplay improvements of FO4.
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peter gabriel posted:Should I just gently caress it and play New Vegas first do you think? that's not a terrible idea, considering all the cool NV mods do a quick run-through of NV, by the time you're done GOTY will be out, the unofficial FO4 patch will probably be out, hell we might even get an official patch, who knows
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Nov 12, 2015 18:14
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Harrow posted:Depends. What was your hit chance? You might just be getting unlucky. No I mean like I have never had a vats laser rifle shot hit their head.
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Nov 12, 2015 18:15
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peter gabriel posted:Should I just gently caress it and play New Vegas first do you think? I always tell people to play fo3 first so you can appreciate nv even more, a lot of people say skip fo3 but i think it's a fine game for a single playthrough, and it's not nearly as long as nv.
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Nov 12, 2015 18:15
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peter gabriel posted:Should I just gently caress it and play New Vegas first do you think? They're both very good games for very different reasons. It's really hard to say which you'd like more without knowing what you're looking for in open world RPGs.
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Nov 12, 2015 18:16
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quadrophrenic posted:you know, I think I figured out what my big problem with this game is, it's the AI I haven't seen hardly any of that in the game so far. So far Radiers are taking cover behind building corners, popping out to shoot here and there (and especially when I reload). Feral Ghouls rush me, but that makes sense because they're mindless zombies...and they do it MUCH faster and more terrifyingly than before. gently caress even Mole Rats burrow and surprise pop-out behind me a ton. I have yet to have a non-ghoul opponent just stand and soak damage. When that Deathclaw dodged my minigun in the opening mission I couldn't believe it.
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Nov 12, 2015 18:16
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I wish I had known blitz required 9 AGI. I only put like 4 on when I started and I've started putting points into it so I can hopefully get blitz soon. It's a bitch early on trying to gain ground for melee attacks
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Nov 12, 2015 18:19
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Is there any way to get your hands on one of those institute containment suits you see the institute people wearing in the vault at the very beginning?
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Nov 12, 2015 18:21
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ComposerGuy posted:I haven't seen hardly any of that in the game so far. So far Radiers are taking cover behind building corners, popping out to shoot here and there (and especially when I reload). Feral Ghouls rush me, but that makes sense because they're mindless zombies...and they do it MUCH faster and more terrifyingly than before. gently caress even Mole Rats burrow and surprise pop-out behind me a ton. i mean, they take cover sure, but so far every enemy i've seen has been "strafe left into cover, pop out, shoot, strafe right into cover, pop out, shoot". they're super easier to fight because you can literally keep your crosshair on the exact same spot outside of cover and wait for them to pop out. animals do that dumb sidestep thing that makes them super annoying perhaps i'm just picky, but that stuff just isn't good enough for me these days. i maybe just want them to flank, at the very least. don't just pop out of cover in the most obvious, predictable spot. go around the other side ffs. maybe I'm noticing it more because I'm playing with as little VATS as possible, but the way enemies move and fight in this game just makes it feel old
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Nov 12, 2015 18:21
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peter gabriel posted:Should I just gently caress it and play New Vegas first do you think? Yes, or even get Fallout 3. It's not as deep as NV, but it has so many nuggets of humor and fun things to explore. The combat and such is pretty much identical. And the choices you can make in 3 are amazing. I still get chills thinking about the evil things you can do at the start of 3 that end very dramatically. You need to try being supremely evil in that game at least once. Here's a tip for playing Fallout 3 the first time: It will come with 5 different DLC in a bundle. The DLC is hooked into the game by way of the radio. You'll get a popup that says "You've detected a radio signal", and if you open your Pip-Boy, you will see the two normal stations that play music, plus these other signals. When you listen to them, they each give you a quest that starts you on that DLC path. Don't do it! Play the normal game quests for a while first. One of the DLCs in particular has weapons that trump pretty much everything else in the game. It kind of ruins any challenge it had. My friend did that DLC first before anything else, and he says it basically ruined his experience.
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Nov 12, 2015 18:21
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Does luck do anything besides crit stuff in VATS? Does it have an effect on loot rolls?
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PantsBandit posted:They're both very good games for very different reasons. It's really hard to say which you'd like more without knowing what you're looking for in open world RPGs. Thanks for the reply all, I won't quote everyone! What I like is the ability to just explore a bit, sight see and if there are quests then OK, that's cool, I get that the story has to be pushed forwards. I love the whole post nuke vibe so I think I'll like the games, I usually don;t finish games I just play them until I am bored. I think I'll go for 3 perhaps and see if I like it.
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Nov 12, 2015 18:21
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Is there a good set of upgrades for outfits I'm missing? I found the drifters outfit early and it was a good look I thought, until I got my rear end kicked and had to upgrade to a horrific mixture of raider gear and metal stuff. I want to look cool but it seems armor comes in tiers, much like weapons and I've just gotten to combat armor and rifles. I want to wear my vault suit 
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Nov 12, 2015 18:23
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Frankenoodle posted:Yes, or even get Fallout 3. It's not as deep as NV, but it has so many nuggets of humor and fun things to explore. The combat and such is pretty much identical. And the choices you can make in 3 are amazing. I still get chills thinking about the evil things you can do at the start of 3 that end very dramatically. You need to try being supremely evil in that game at least once. Is the game with all the DLC the way to go then? There is a GOTY edition, is that the one to grab?
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quadrophrenic posted:i mean, they take cover sure, but so far every enemy i've seen has been "strafe left into cover, pop out, shoot, strafe right into cover, pop out, shoot". they're super easier to fight because you can literally keep your crosshair on the exact same spot outside of cover and wait for them to pop out. *Shrug* dunno. Seems fine to me. But then again, I am absolutely *not* a FPS player for anything other than Fallout because I can't twitch, so maybe I'd feel differently otherwise.
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peter gabriel posted:Is the game with all the DLC the way to go then? There is a GOTY edition, is that the one to grab? yes. and remember, stick with it for a few hours, don't let the difficulty dissuade you. fo3 and nv are classic rpg bellcurve difficulty. intro will feel really easy, then you will get your poo poo pushed in as you tendril around the map. if you get murdered a lot and frustrated just run off and do something else like explore for a while.
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Nov 12, 2015 18:23
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Is the base building stuff required? I don't particularly care for it, but I just did the quest where you rebuild the base in Sanctuary (like 2 hours in the game). Am I going to be punished for not doing the base stuff?
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Nov 12, 2015 18:24
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Zaphod42 posted:How do you get in / carry naked frames? You get in it like you get in any other set of power armor- fusion core, pop it in the back, climb in.. From what I can tell, it just acts as an exo-skeleton and you can fast travel and everything. You can still see "you" inside. It's honestly pretty cool. As for others, you can apparently pickpocket out the fusion core or remove it from their inventory somehow and they'll leave it but I haven't tested this.
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ethanol posted:yes. and remember, stick with it for a few hours, don't let the difficulty dissuade you. fo3 and nv are classic rpg bellcurve difficulty. intro will feel really easy, then you will get your poo poo pushed in as you tendril around the map. if you get murdered a lot and frustrated just run off and do something else like explore for a while. Groovy thanks 
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While I'm okay with using a few of the tracks from the radio stations in Fallout 3 for nostalgia's sake, it's a little excessive to have them be like half of Fallout 4's song list. That said, I very quickly knew what would become my favorite track in Fallout 4:   ♫ ♫ URAAAAAAAAAAANIUM FEVER HAS DONE AND GOT ME DOWN! ♫ ♫ ♫ ♫ URAAAAAAAAAAANIUM FEVER IS SPREADIN' ALL AROUND! ♫ ♫ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acMqxcdxE0E
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peter gabriel posted:I am a terrible gamer who brings shame to us all because I have never played a Fallout game before. Then buy it, unless the money is hard for you or whatever. Its a huge sandbox with tons of poo poo to find.
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The writing actually isn't all that bad, it's not on par with NV or even several other games but honestly not that bad. It has kind of a weak start but it takes up steam later on. What's far more grating is once again the voice acting. It certainly has sometimes this "hired some students/people we found at a bus stop" (especially hate that old future teller lady) quality to it and the game really suffers for it. Then sometimes you have some pretty good voice acting in between and you're surprised how the hell that happened. What surprises me personally the most is that this game is actually a bit clever sometimes and shows actual attention to detail, that's something Bethesda never was very good about. It just not something you expect from them.
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New Leaf posted:You get in it like you get in any other set of power armor- fusion core, pop it in the back, climb in.. From what I can tell, it just acts as an exo-skeleton and you can fast travel and everything. You can still see "you" inside. It's honestly pretty cool. Hm, I killed somebody in power armor and it wouldn't let me. They fell on their back though... is that really the problem? I can't get behind them since they're on the floor?
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Nov 12, 2015 18:27
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So ever since the very first quest that gives you power armour with low batteries I've never worn it, I've also found the game incredibly hard. One of the first quests they send you to a factory to kill some mercentaries and there's like 50 of them and I'm in there with absolute scrub weapons and almost no ammo. I'm guessing I'm supposed to find batteries around the world then use those batteries to use my suit in special situations? Is there any way to re-charge them? How should I be using my suit?
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Nov 12, 2015 18:28
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Sgt. Cosgrove posted:No I mean like I have never had a vats laser rifle shot hit their head. It crit heads with my laser rifle all day long. Whats your perception at?
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Nov 12, 2015 18:29
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This is probably a no, but might as well ask. I spent a perk point unwisely. Any way to reroll other than just starting over?
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Nov 12, 2015 18:30
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Baronjutter posted:So ever since the very first quest that gives you power armour with low batteries I've never worn it, I've also found the game incredibly hard. One of the first quests they send you to a factory to kill some mercentaries and there's like 50 of them and I'm in there with absolute scrub weapons and almost no ammo. Think of the suit as super mode, only using it in the toughest fights to stride amongst your enemies like a Steel God.
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Baronjutter posted:So ever since the very first quest that gives you power armour with low batteries I've never worn it, I've also found the game incredibly hard. One of the first quests they send you to a factory to kill some mercentaries and there's like 50 of them and I'm in there with absolute scrub weapons and almost no ammo. This is Fallout, there are no "first quests", only quests you happened to bump into first. Somebody else could be 70 hours into the game before they find that quest. Its kinda up to you to judge the difficulty of things as you go. You can't re-charge them but yeah, you'll find them around the world and then you can use them on your suit in special situations. Taking the Nuclear Physicist perk lets you use it much longer. What difficulty are you playing on? Note that again, Fallout games tend to rocket back and forth from easy to really hard, they're huge sandboxes that let you shoot yourself in the foot if you want to. You gotta be smart (or savescum like a bastard)
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Police Automaton posted:What's far more grating is once again the voice acting. It certainly has sometimes this "hired some students/people we found at a bus stop" (especially hate that old future teller lady) quality to it and the game really suffers for it. Then sometimes you have some pretty good voice acting in between and you're surprised how the hell that happened. it's def. super schizoid. Danse and Piper and the female PC I think are genuinely really really well done. But the Mayor of Diamond City and Garvey are really horrible, like to the point where it makes me disinterested in the story if I have to sit through conversation with them
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Nov 12, 2015 18:31
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Who Dat posted:This is probably a no, but might as well ask. I spent a perk point unwisely. Any way to reroll other than just starting over? Console commands will let you add or remove any perk. But there's no way outside of "cheats" that I know of.
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Nov 12, 2015 18:31
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I mentioned it before but nobody seemed to agree, am I the only one who thinks the crazy hippie drug lady sounds like Carol Kane? Especially from "The Princess Bride"?
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I've only used the power armour once and just hoard suits and paint them pretty colours for my companions to use. I haven't had much trouble though I do occasionally get pissed off by raining molotov cocktails 
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Nov 12, 2015 18:36
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peter gabriel posted:Is the game with all the DLC the way to go then? There is a GOTY edition, is that the one to grab? Yes, and it's like $10. I don't even think you can buy it by itself any more.
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I wish there was some way barring an eventual mod I guess to disable some radio tracks, because boy howdy did I not like Civilization in FO3 and I continue to not like it in FO4.
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Judge Tesla posted:Think of the suit as super mode, only using it in the toughest fights to stride amongst your enemies like a Steel God. Or you take Nuclear Physicist and just never take your power armor off, which I think is objectively the correct way to play.
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