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Leperflesh posted:So, back there on the planet, there's still a surviving Comstar lady who can corroborate Carlos' statements and battle ROMs proving that the capellans are the ones that attacked and destroyed the HPG and murdered all their staff. So, if Carlos and that lady get rescued by Comstar, presumably all hell breaks loose as Space AT&T goes apeshit against the Capellans. That's an obvious and immediately sensible outcome that I suppose Duncan Marik would benefit from. Space AT&T already is going apeshit. Every HPG in the Capellan Confederation is being disabled right now and the only reason Comstar isn't going into open warfare with them is because they know New Syrtis and the League will do it for them. I'm not sure that Comstar has much help to offer. Their on-world assets are committing suicide to erect the largest possible middle finger for CapCon and everything nearby is busy enacting the interdiction. dis astranagant fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Nov 14, 2015 |
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Keep in mind that as GhostStalker posted, the Red Corsair crew are in posession of Star League tech. They're probably not going to be running gimmicks like Wrasslin Randy and company. (They're also not real pirates, as I pointed out in my post.) They should still be good fun, but not the same style fight as the Burning Irritation of Butte Hold.
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I really wanted to go with the joke Clan option, but honestly who wouldn't go to the pirates for help at this point? I'll vote C: lets get the Red Corsair to assist with this extraction.
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Nov 14, 2015 00:22
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Yeah FractionJackson has some great points but purely from a "what do I want to see in the next mission" standpoint, I think C: The Red Corsairs wins by a mile.
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Nov 14, 2015 00:24
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dis astranagant posted:Their on-world assets are committing suicide to erect the largest possible middle finger for CapCon The mental imagery I get after reading this line actually makes me laugh. I'm just picturing guys self destructing while a monolithic middle finger bursts out of the ground
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Anyone can tell you that having ComStar on your side is the best option. Always.
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I vote for the Red Corsair. It's simply the most interesting choice, although steamrolling through the Capellans as the Clans would be fun to see.Ice Fist posted:The mental imagery I get after reading this line actually makes me laugh. I'm just picturing guys self destructing while a monolithic middle finger bursts out of the ground I'm imagining something more like this: 
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Nov 14, 2015 00:27
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e; double post
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Nov 14, 2015 00:29
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10 Megatons in a city - even if it's waaaay underground - is a sizeable gently caress you. That's a good sized chunk of planetary real estate that now has a massive fallout problem.
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Leperflesh posted:Yeah FractionJackson has some great points but purely from a "what do I want to see in the next mission" standpoint, I think C: The Red Corsairs wins by a mile. They are probably a lot more stylish, to be fair. And probably the next best option. If C wins I'll be pretty excited to see how that plays out and pretty happy with it, I think. I just think that in the grand strategy perspective, getting the DS into this part of the war might do the most for the FWL as well as the DS. Plus, I'll also be interested to see what kinds of things this timeline's Cappies cook up when they're under siege from all sides and get really desperate.
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Davion! It's going to end up getting Duncan and the FWL involved in the Clan War on Davion's side, and that's what we want! 
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I want to bid C for the Pirate thing because and the best way to make things cwazy is to have as many different allegiances of guns at the party as possible (and ComStar are already in this fight).Fraction Jackson posted:Duncan's quandary - he needs a solution that recovers Carlos alive without sacrificing millions of his people and their homes to the Capellans. You can't ever have a "my Home Planet" speech if no-one ever loses their home planet. Let's plant some narrative seeds!
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Gonna hafta vote for C. When you need to do something dramatic and flashy, always bet on the dashing rogues (even if they're fake).
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goatface posted:10 Megatons in a city - even if it's waaaay underground - is a sizeable gently caress you. That's a good sized chunk of planetary real estate that now has a massive fallout problem. If there's one thing Comstar fears more than anything else, it's the unwashed masses getting their hands on HPG technology. 10 megatons should be more than enough to completely erase any trace of an HPG ever being on the planet.
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E) Hanse is busy with the Clans and will not want to start a second front war with Liao. Comstar will do whatever Comstar will do, but the given the Capellans actions they presumably already have a plan for Comstar. Red Corsair is probably the best option, which is why it is boring. Not Amaris. What the Clans ask for will be interesting, as will their reaction when they go hunting for boy Marik and they come across the Capellan Power Ranger experimental squad. Remember it's based on Clan tech that got stolen. Fundamentally this is an extremely dangerous suicide mission against dishonorable people the Clans have a reason to have a grudge against in order to prevent a greater war that would engulf dozens of planets. It's a trueborn's wet dream.
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Alchenar posted:E) You make a good point, actually. I change my vote to E) The Clans.
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Bloody Pom posted:You make a good point, actually. I change my vote to E) The Clans. THINK OF THE GLORY!
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C) Red Corsair
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Bloody Pom posted:You make a good point, actually. I change my vote to E) The Clans. PTN doesn't historically allow vote changes, it would make it a pain in the rear end to keep track of who voted for what. Also, voting for Red Corsair
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A. Comstar is the logical choice.
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E:The Clans Hastur, Hastur...
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C. The Red Corsair and the FWL have established... A mutual benign indifference a while back, makes sense Marik would turn to them.
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E The Clans, because who are you going to call when you need your son rescued from enemy territory? The A-Team? No, you call the goddamn people that are invading your galaxy right now. Would have voted for Amaris (because come on - he clearly has the coolest mechs), but it has no chance of winning.
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C), who doesn't want see more high flying adventures with giant mechanized pirates? No one, that's who!
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E The Clans holy poo poo this would be the most hilarious poo poo. Do it. loving do it.
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Nov 14, 2015 01:25
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Paving the way for the Ghost Bear League.
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We need more pirates in order to combat the nuclear winter that Comstar has started. Imagine how a Pirates vs Power Rangers mission will look. C Red Corsair
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dis astranagant posted:I'm not sure that Comstar has much help to offer. Their on-world assets are committing suicide to erect the largest possible middle finger for CapCon and everything nearby is busy enacting the interdiction. Ice Fist posted:The mental imagery I get after reading this line actually makes me laugh. I'm just picturing guys self destructing while a monolithic middle finger bursts out of the ground Bloody Pom posted:I'm imagining something more like this: Exactly what I thought was this was mentioned. And as I said last page and Zaodai did here: Zaodai posted:Keep in mind that as GhostStalker posted, the Red Corsair crew are in posession of Star League tech. They're probably not going to be running gimmicks like Wrasslin Randy and company. (They're also not real pirates, as I pointed out in my post.)
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Destroy the bloc powers until the only people with mechs are the rag-tag groups of pirates and mercenaries who meet around Solaris to drink and gamble when they're not out fighting each other to protect/plunder worlds who've scraped together some meagre riches.
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TildeATH posted:We need more pirates in order to combat the nuclear winter that Comstar has started. Imagine how a Pirates vs Power Rangers mission will look. So you're saying we could get pirate power rangers if the Corsair and co. can steal some mech parts, right? Right?  C
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Gonna vote for c, although I gotta ask, was that update implying that comstar set off the nuke under the HPG, or just that they had the capability?
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Getting involved with Comstar at this point seems like a poor idea. C Red Corsair
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Mr. Despair posted:Gonna vote for c, although I gotta ask, was that update implying that comstar set off the nuke under the HPG, or just that they had the capability? No implying, it straight up said it. The HPG network is the only leg Comstar has to stand on and they will destroy it rather than let any one else so much as think they might start their own.
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Mr. Despair posted:Gonna vote for c, although I gotta ask, was that update implying that comstar set off the nuke under the HPG, or just that they had the capability? gently caress-off big fusion bombs are most definitely in play. edit - Or reasonably small AM conversion devices. Which would be terrifying in a completely different way. goatface fucked around with this message at 01:59 on Nov 14, 2015 |
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Alchenar posted:E) Jumping on this bandwagon E
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Red Corsair. Let's set the stage for a long term alliance between the FWL and the Steiners.
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C - Red Corsair I wanna see Morgan Kell back in action.
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I'm voting D despite the Corsair bandwagon. Duncan's clearly concerned that a strike into Capellan territory results in losing multiple worlds. If he calls on the Corsair to help, that doesn't help his overall military situation, it just potentially gets him his son back. He's one of the few people in the Inner Sphere to know enough about the Clans to guess that asking them for help isn't going to be useful as it's a display of weakness. Comstar may well help, but they'll do whatever they do anyway and they're as likely to use his son as leverage against him as to rescue him. The Corsair is the objectively wisest choice, I think, but that's not the FWL I've read about in this thread. So instead, Duncan should do something that appears subjectively brilliant but which will turn around and bite him horribly in the rear end later. Use Davion's respect for family to draw him into an expedition into Capellan space that may set off a war, which conveniently distracts the Capellans from the FWL and weakens Davion at the same time. Masterstroke! Not that it'll turn out that way in any respect at all; it's a terrible idea.
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