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smg77 posted:The low ratings aren't that surprising considering that the Democratic primary is boring (unless you're a Bernie Bro who still thinks Sanders has a chance) and it was on a Saturday night when nobody is watching TV. The most watched debate in the 2008 Democratic primary was on a Saturday though (December 13, 2007 in Iowa). Looking at it now the debate schedule was all sorts of hosed. 4 of the debates weren't broadcast live on anything. One was done exclusively on the radio. One was done on the Logo cable network which had only launched like 18 months before, and was still only available at all on a minority of cable/satellite subscriptions.
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Nintendo Kid posted:The most watched debate in the 2008 Democratic primary was on a Saturday though (December 13, 2007 in Iowa). Yeah but the race was much more interesting. By December the weaknesses of Hillary's inevitability were starting to show and Edwards and Obama were starting to look like real alternatives which is what's missing this time around. Also from the wikipedia article: quote:Dennis Kucinich was excluded because he had not rented office space in the state. The Register determined “that a person working out of his home did not meet our criteria for a campaign office and full-time paid staff in Iowa.” I miss Kucinich. 
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smg77 posted:The low ratings aren't that surprising considering that the Democratic primary is boring (unless you're a Bernie Bro who still thinks Sanders has a chance) and it was on a Saturday night when nobody is watching TV. Also there was an Hawkeye game going on at the same time, despite the debate being in Iowa.
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I've seen lots of idiots on twitter claiming that it was making them fall asleep. People talking about real issues? BORING.
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Tigntink posted:I've seen lots of idiots on twitter claiming that it was making them fall asleep. People talking about real issues? BORING. It's talking about talking about the real issues that gets the viewers.
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Nov 16, 2015 02:06
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I'm sure if they brought in some of the mizzou protesters to debate that would of gotten better ratings.
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Nov 16, 2015 02:07
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There's a great interview with Paul Ryan on 60 Minutes, they got to talk to his wife for a little bit, she seemed like she was on the verge of tears when they were talking about him being speaker, I get the feeling they're both still deeply uncomfortable with him having that job. I think he'd be a lot happier sitting in a back room making up policy without any of the politics poo poo. Also, he seems like a nice enough guy. I still think his policy is dumb, but talking about his dad, grandfather, great grandfather all dying in their fifties made his whole health kick make a lot more sense.
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Nov 16, 2015 02:30
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Mister Macys posted:Is there any other kind of nightclub? The Amen Break fell out of favor in the mid-2000s, though...
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Nov 16, 2015 02:36
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This guy is an idiot. You can't redeem anyone that's a raping, slaving murderer and torturer of anyone who is remotely different from their pants-on-head crazy sect and supposed Caliphate. I don't remember any holy book saying "and then we raped any woman we could catch, and it was good." Some converts may have started as human beings, but once you've crossed into marauding rape slaver, there is no going back. Especially as many of those European converts are educated enough that they should know better. Which is why Columbus day is probably the most offensive holiday imaginable.
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Yoshifan823 posted:There's a great interview with Paul Ryan on 60 Minutes, they got to talk to his wife for a little bit, she seemed like she was on the verge of tears when they were talking about him being speaker, I get the feeling they're both still deeply uncomfortable with him having that job. I think he'd be a lot happier sitting in a back room making up policy without any of the politics poo poo. That's a bunch of PR bullshit. Ryan badly wanted the job with every ounce of his body and he's mixed up with the bad part of GOP politics as much as anyone. He's not some kind of wonky policy guy who hates politics, which I thought was clear by now. He made all of those demands for the speakership, got none of them accepted and said alright I'll take the job anyway. The whole "my wife didn't want me to run" or pretending like you're above the fray is a tactic used to make them look more familiar and friendly with the public in interviews like that. You can't rewrite Ryan's history since 2010 as if he was just off minding his own business being a wonky wonk, instead he was one of the leaders of the GOP obstructionism and political extremism.
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Nov 16, 2015 02:43
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Paul Ryan is a complete and utter rear end in a top hat. It is folly to ever entertain otherwise.
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Paul Ryan is a complete and utter rear end in a top hat. It is folly to ever entertain otherwise. Yeah boggles my mind how some people still think he's some kind of policy wonk. They need to watch the 2012 debate with Ryan vs Biden. Ryan gets caught up in multiple lies but more importantly his entire policy wonk routine crumbles when confronted with facts or questions. This is the same guy who was giddy and already picking out his committee replacement on his flight back to Boston on 2012 election night because he was so sure he was going to win. If he had any honest want or need to strictly stick to policy in a backroom he would've turned down the VP offer and also turned down the speakership and stuck with his committee.
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Talmonis posted:I don't remember any holy book saying "and then we raped any woman we could catch, and it was good." This is literally in the bible.
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Paul Ryan is a complete and utter rear end in a top hat. It is folly to ever entertain otherwise. 
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Mitt Romney posted:The whole "my wife didn't want me to run" or pretending like you're above the fray is a tactic used to make them look more familiar and friendly with the public in interviews like that. No politician who ever says they want to spend more time with their family really does. If they did, they would just do it and not  about it. Or not take a 24/7 job like being a Congressperson in the first place.This isn't any different than anyone else, of course, but we like to pretend politicians are noble creatures who mean what they say.
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Combed Thunderclap posted:This isn't any different than anyone else, of course, but we like to pretend politicians are noble creatures who mean what they say. Anyone who has seen even local politics knows that you have to be broken in a specific way to seek office as small as city council. At the very least you have delusions about how the world works.
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RuanGacho posted:Anyone who has seen even local politics knows that you have to be broken in a specific way to seek office as small as city council. Depends on where you live really. In a lot of places it's a comfy job that you can sit and coast in forever with minimal work, as an addon to whatever your real job is. You just gotta sneak in when the incumbents die or somehow decide to leave without a clear political heir. There's many towns/cities out there where you can get $20,000 a year for like 20 weekday evening meetings throughout a year, and you just need to whip up 1300 votes to keep that when the election comes up.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:I haven't seen it reported here in USPol yet (or may have missed it), but the recent Democratic debate pulled around 8.5 million viewers, which I believe is the smallest number of any debate so far (please correct me if I'm wrong). I'm sure some of that was due to people not knowing exactly what channel CBS was. For whatever reason it wasn't listed in TV Guide books either, for the old folks who still subscribe.
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Triglav posted:I'm sure some of that was due to people not knowing exactly what channel CBS was. For whatever reason it wasn't listed in TV Guide books either, for the old folks who still subscribe. Is there no end to the strings DWS will pull in her quest for a spot on  's cabinet?! For shame.
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Triglav posted:I'm sure some of that was due to people not knowing exactly what channel CBS was. For whatever reason it wasn't listed in TV Guide books either, for the old folks who still subscribe. No wonder you couldn't find CBS, if you thought it was a subscription channel.
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Yoshifan823 posted:There's a great interview with Paul Ryan on 60 Minutes, they got to talk to his wife for a little bit, she seemed like she was on the verge of tears when they were talking about him being speaker, I get the feeling they're both still deeply uncomfortable with him having that job. I think he'd be a lot happier sitting in a back room making up policy without any of the politics poo poo. Paul Ryan did a thing recently where he mounted a push against free/reduced lunches for low-income schoolkids. He literally wants to starve children. And is in no conceivable way a good or nice dude.
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Combed Thunderclap posted:No politician who ever says they want to spend more time with their family really does.
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wolfman101 posted:This is literally in the bible. It would appear you're absolutely right! Right alongside the anti-homosexuality stuff as well. Hopefully some theologist will point out this disturbing revelation to the evangelicals in our midst...aaany time now.
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PupsOfWar posted:He literally wants to starve children. I'd like to think that both sides are capable of arguing the merits of each party's members policy actions without saying that one side literally wants to starve children
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Meg From Family Guy posted:I'd like to think that both sides are capable of arguing the merits of each party's members policy actions without saying that one side literally wants to starve children I don't think you understand, this isn't hyperbole. They think it builds character and motivates them. I'm sure someone can get you a link. EDIT: Like this one where Rush says they should go dumpster diving if they're so hungry HootTheOwl fucked around with this message at 04:35 on Nov 16, 2015 |
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Meg From Family Guy posted:I'd like to think that both sides are capable of arguing the merits of each party's members policy actions without saying that one side literally wants to starve children Ok for some reason he seems to think that churches and charities will pick up the slack when people inevitably start hurting real bad due to his policies despite these organizations already being overburdened at the moment. Better?
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SirKibbles posted:Ok for some reason he seems to think that churches and charities will pick up the slack when people inevitably start hurting real bad due to his policies despite these organizations already being overburdened at the moment. Better? I volunteered for a service that provided non-perishable lunches to poverty stricken students for the week and gave them discrete lunch bags so the other students wouldn't know they were so poor they had to get assistance. Think of all the money they could save in lunch bags if the entire school was too poor to afford school lunches.
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HootTheOwl posted:I don't think you understand, this isn't hyperbole. They think it builds character and motivates them. I'm sure someone can get you a link. Hunger can be a positive motivator.
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Yoshifan823 posted:There's a great interview with Paul Ryan on 60 Minutes, they got to talk to his wife for a little bit, she seemed like she was on the verge of tears when they were talking about him being speaker, I get the feeling they're both still deeply uncomfortable with him having that job. I think he'd be a lot happier sitting in a back room making up policy without any of the politics poo poo.
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60 Minutes is fine same general neo liberalism you get from most non fox news news outfits but they do some decent reporting.
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SoggyBobcat posted:Speaking of 60 Minutes, what's the thread's opinion on it? Good, bad? My dad watches it a lot but I never pay attention when it's on. They are like any of the other network news programs. Have had their history of problems but most of the time they are ok when it comes to non-political issues. quote:http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-asks-lara-logan-to-take-leave-after-flawed-benghazi-report/ They also seem to give quarterly Koch interviews in which they flower them with praise, including letting them say without laughing that their main fight is against all special interest groups. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/charles-koch-im-fighting-against-special-interests/
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So a thing happened in north Minneapolis in Minnesota. Police shot a man that at least a couple of witnesses say was handcuffed. Right now there are a bunch of people setting up tents to camp out at the precinct until they release the video of what happened.
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PupsOfWar posted:Paul Ryan did a thing recently where he mounted a push against free/reduced lunches for low-income schoolkids. I really wish I lived in a country where a proposal like this, or anything that cuts funding or assistance for primary/secondary schools and students, would instantly be taken as reprehensible by the majority. 
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Silver Nitrate posted:So a thing happened in north Minneapolis in Minnesota. Police shot a man that at least a couple of witnesses say was handcuffed. Right now there are a bunch of people setting up tents to camp out at the precinct until they release the video of what happened. [url posted:http://kstp.com/news/stories/S3963744.shtml?cat=1[/url]] stone soup fucked around with this message at 06:55 on Nov 16, 2015 |
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Wally Joyner posted:North Minneapolis has been plagued for years by severe inequality, and this isn't the first time charges of brutality or racism were made toward the MPD. I believe Harteau made the push for body-cameras (against the Police union) and increasing the relationship with the community, so it will be interesting to see how the investigation is handled. Yeah I'm watching this closely too. North Minneapolis is one of the worst neighborhoods and MPD is seriously nasty. When my friend was homeless, he said that several times when MPD would show up to clear people out of an alley they did it by walking up to them and hitting the sleeping people with batons.
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Mitt Romney posted:They are like any of the other network news programs. Have had their history of problems but most of the time they are ok when it comes to non-political issues. Logan peaked when she gave a segment interview about how journalists in baghdad were being poo poo-talked by talk radio scum back in the states for more or less not painting a rosy enough picture of the occupation. If I recall she essentially called Laura Ingraham out specifically.
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Swan Oat posted:Paul Ryan is an evil motherfucker, and a reptile. Reptiles lack the part of the brain that does evil, they act on instinct alone. You're thinking of a human or maybe a porpoise. They're nasty fuckers.
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