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Pope Guilty posted:What percentage of those "anarchist" results are ancaps? They're a drop in the bucket either way, but looks like about half: code:
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Anticheese posted:Wtf is a "futarchist"? Some dip looked at government and thought, "What if it was run like the stock market?" Wikipedia posted:Futarchy is a form of government proposed by economist Robin Hanson, in which elected officials define measures of national welfare, and prediction markets are used to determine which policies will have the most positive effect. Will this prediction market accept Bitcoin by chance?
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I think I'd actually prefer being ruled by anime fetish objects than that. 
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Moldbug actually had a debate with Hanson over futarchy, although I haven't watched it myself because it's so long: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb-6ikXdOzE Moldbug's post-debate post: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2010/01/hanson-moldbug-debate.html Moldbug's rant that presumably triggered the debate: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2009/05/futarchy-considered-retarded.html Moldbug links to an actual government attempt to partially implent Hanson's ideas in the real world (  ), which was wisely cancelled: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Policy_Analysis_MarketIncidentally, this is a good example of how one form of silly thinking can protect one against another kind: Moldbug is too much of an elitist to believe in "wisdom of crowds" stuff, and his excessive belief in Campbell's Law comes in handy in cases where Campbell's Law actually applies. Silver2195 has a new favorite as of 08:26 on Nov 14, 2015 |
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Darth Walrus posted:Someone who believes we should be ruled by girls with gigantic, veiny penises. +1 definite improvement on now
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Latest thing Nick Land's been gushing about, although of course it would entirely contradict his other shibboleth that the Genetic Stock who are best in other respects are too outbred to stand up for themselves (and about nine or ten things from actual reality.) Has the exact same cadence as one of those small-time "buy gold now!" sites, I guess because it's pitched at the same audience.
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I'm not sure Robin Hanson is human. I think he's an alien who somehow managed to be vaguely influential in human society.
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Oligopsony posted:Latest thing Nick Land's been gushing about, although of course it would entirely contradict his other shibboleth that the Genetic Stock who are best in other respects are too outbred to stand up for themselves (and about nine or ten things from actual reality.) Has the exact same cadence as one of those small-time "buy gold now!" sites, I guess because it's pitched at the same audience. Nope, that's some old J. P. Rushton bullshit. And of course, is a complete misuse of r/K theory (which has been outmoded in evolutionary biology. Are you sure Land discovered this now? Rushton's pseudoscience has been out for ages. Merdifex has a new favorite as of 02:34 on Nov 15, 2015 |
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Didn't mean to imply it was new! Just that Land had been gushing about it recently. It is pretty funny that "r/K = L/R" and "liberals are insufficiently natalist, and are also deluded into overparenting because of The Nurture Assumption, it would be better to have more kids and spend less time on each" can not just exist side-by-side but be fit into a "liberals are selfish and present-oriented, righties are family- and future-oriented" narrative, though.
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Oligopsony posted:Didn't mean to imply it was new! Just that Land had been gushing about it recently. It's funny that this guy is recommending that conservatives and, I guess, the rational, should employ a K-strategy to their parenting when Rushton argued that non-whites employ a sort of K-strategy, and that's why white people are going to be swamped by non-whites with dysgenic breeding patterns. Also, in the theme of bad neoreactionary arguments, this time against immigration. If you can't bring up empirical fact, lovely allegories will do just as well.
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Well, Wesley is stupid enough to do that, so the analogy checks out. And he is a stupid backwards idiot who shouldn't exist. Seems pretty sound to me.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Well, Wesley is stupid enough to do that, so the analogy checks out. And he is a stupid backwards idiot who shouldn't exist. It's funny that even Scott has no time for lovely arguments like these, and he's got a history of promoting lovely positions. I mean, what do you say to someone who argues that the Paris attacks happened because of the West accepting refugees? Even when ISIS has made it clear that it wants to burn all bridges between the Muslim world and the West, so sentiments like those which Wesley and the entire neoreactionary peanut gallery expressed are exactly what ISIS wants.
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I think both the nrx people and the ISIS people would like bloody debilitating war between the West and the Middle East, so they're natural allies! They should go meet up sometime - probably have a lot in common in other fields.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Well, Wesley is stupid enough to do that, so the analogy checks out. And he is a stupid backwards idiot who shouldn't exist. In case anyone thinks of Wesley as a hateful idiot, well, he has already argued his way out of that one, apparently. Remember, the only real discrimination and hate is by the high-status against white males.
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Merdifex posted:In case anyone thinks of Wesley as a hateful idiot, well, he has already argued his way out of that one, apparently. God, they realize that using fancy, multiple syllable words means jack poo poo in bolstering an argument, right? Every NRx 'thinker' could be out written by a forth grader
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BobHoward posted:That was because Wonder Woman's creator was a dude with... eccentric views about the proper role of women in society.
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coyo7e posted:Okay now please explain the bondage in Rocky & Bullwinkle Again?
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It looks like Twitter's alt-right/nRX/frogtwitter weirdos have decided to exploit the poo poo going down in Paris by trying to get some anti-GamerGate guy caught up in everything. https://twitter.com/grasswirefacts/status/665633389362282496
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What is supposed to be taking the picture in the doctored image?
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Jack Gladney posted:What is supposed to be taking the picture in the doctored image? The terrorist's hatred of freedom and nice white Christians.
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Pussy Cartel posted:It looks like Twitter's alt-right/nRX/frogtwitter weirdos have decided to exploit the poo poo going down in Paris by trying to get some anti-GamerGate guy caught up in everything. https://twitter.com/grasswirefacts/status/665633389362282496 This is funny because I just saw alt-right types proactively bitching about how sjws were sure to blame gators and mras for the events in Paris.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:This is funny because I just saw alt-right types proactively bitching about how sjws were sure to blame gators and mras for the events in Paris. I'm fairly sure that the train of responsibility lies around Western imperialism, and Islamic Radicalization.
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https://en.shindanmaker.com/578145 I got "SedevacantistNordicBrahmin"
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"EpicCatholicBro" I kinda like it 
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The Vosgian Beast posted:https://en.shindanmaker.com/578145 Full Name: "NordicRealistCathedralWrecker" Username: "ReactionaryReactionWhigDestroyer" Hey other Michael. 
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I got GermanicReactionChick despite putting in a very masculine name and being very very Irish 
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Wait are there people who actually call themselves "Reactionaries?" Because all this time I thought it was an insulting term just applied to them. Because seriously, "Reactionary" just sounds like an insult.
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Dr Pepper posted:Wait are there people who actually call themselves "Reactionaries?" Because all this time I thought it was an insulting term just applied to them. It probably started that way but then the internet happened and whelp here we are.
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Merdifex posted:In case anyone thinks of Wesley as a hateful idiot, well, he has already argued his way out of that one, apparently. i took a quick glance at his twitter and HAHAHAHA i loving KNEW some reactionary was going to bitch about that vet day google logo
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It will never stop being confusing to me that Scott and the other Post-rationalists like to pretend he's the smart reflective reactionary. Because, like. He's such an immature putz.
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I've long since decided that if I get one of those traumatic brain injuries that removes your conscience, I'm going with Gnon Serviam.
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On Tumblr, this political science student—a guy who's so smart and thoughtful with his politics that, despite being much younger than me, he makes me feel like a small-minded ignorant baby—pointed out that "all terrorism is political", and loving Scott popped up with his meta-level bullshit to say "Hm, actually, religion, politics, and ethnicity are all the same...". Anyways, Scott didn't get nearly the smackdown he deserved, because the other guy is way too nice for his own good, but that moment still highlights the difference between using intelligence to try and understand and educate versus using intelligence to obfuscate and reshuffle labels so you can easily dismiss something. (Also, Scott is horribly longwinded. "At some point I need to give this issue a full blog post treatment," he said, dropping 4 paragraphs of manure on the page. I assume the "full blog post" is at least 30 paragraphs of meta-level nonsense with him concluding that, actually, everything he doesn't like is exactly the same.) Edit: Does Scott realize just how many "racial realists" follow him? Curvature of Earth has a new favorite as of 21:51 on Nov 16, 2015 |
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The ultimate question for Scott and pals is whether they're incredibly naive and stupid, or just deeply disingenuous.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06mv4js Roger Scruton discusses "the tyranny of pop music". Not NRx per se, but touches on some of NRx's favorite conceits. Basically it's peak Old Man Yells at Cloud, with rants about pop music and kids these days and ~~political correctness~~ and how we should all reconnect with the obviously superior classical music even though the tradition ran out of gas a hundred years ago and ended up dissolving into unlistenable "avant-garde" masturbation. I want to make him listen to Miles Davis and Popol Vuh just to see how completely he fails to understand what he is listening to and why it is important music. And of course he delivers all this in the most painfully uptight RP accent imaginable. E: God damnit, if I hear the words "our civilization" one more time! 
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Pussy Cartel posted:It looks like Twitter's alt-right/nRX/frogtwitter weirdos have decided to exploit the poo poo going down in Paris by trying to get some anti-GamerGate guy caught up in everything. https://twitter.com/grasswirefacts/status/665633389362282496 Site I heard about this on was huffing their own forts about how he deserved it for having unacceptable video game opinions.
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Some other forums I frequent have become basically no-go zones for the sheer impenetrable reactionary sentiments. The reaction to Paris could be even more odious than the reaction to 9/11.Woolie Wool posted:E: God damnit, if I hear the words "our civilization" one more time! Get ready to hear it all the time.
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Woolie Wool posted:http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06mv4js Everytime he is mentioned in anyway or I come across something with his name on it, I feel a powerful urge to viciously beat Scruton with a tire iron.
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Woolie Wool posted:http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06mv4js (Well, he is a very banal, shallow imitation of Adorno. The philosophical depths he reaches are also easily reached by Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.) Also, "old man yells at clouds" does not seem particularly NEOreactionary. What would have been neoreactionary would not be to say, we need everyone to listen to actually good music. What would have been neoreactionary would have been: actually good music is too complex for the masses, but Rap makes teens more violent; we elites will listen to Wagner and program algorithms that synthesize music to pacify the masses by their soothing melodies, perfectly targeted at the lesser people's brains. This thing is bad, but not in a slightly interesting, "america is communist" or "feminists are the true oppressors" way. It's just boring. Edit: I am pretty sure this guy would be able to suck every piece of joy out of e.g. the Ode to Joy if he just tried to explain to you how exciting it is. Also lmao "have you noticed Pokerface is just one tone" IT'S CALLED AN ORGELPUNKT YOU GIT also he likes Metallica Cingulate has a new favorite as of 13:28 on Nov 17, 2015 |
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Cingulate posted:Also he likes Metallica That's all you had to say
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