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Koruthaiolos
Nov 21, 2002


Marxalot posted:

Electrical tape will degrade outside. No, this is not a UV damage thing either.

That's ok, when it starts to become a black sticky mess just wrap some new electrical tape around it again. It will seal in the bad stuff and look good as new.

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Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




builds character posted:

What's the right way to do wiring and what are your pet peeves?

Soldering on wires that won't need to be disconnected, and covering them with heat shrink or liquid tape. Connections that need to be disconnected should get bullet connectors at the least, with a liberal application of dielectric grease.

My pet peeves include wire nuts, electrical tape, vampire connectors, non-fused links, rats nests and Honda regulators

Koruthaiolos posted:

Drip a glob of solder on the wires then wrap in electrical tape. Super easy, not sure how so many people gently caress it up.

Ignore this troll

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


Jim Silly-Balls posted:

Soldering on wires that won't need to be disconnected, and covering them with heat shrink or liquid tape. Connections that need to be disconnected should get bullet connectors at the least, with a liberal application of dielectric grease.

My pet peeves include wire nuts, electrical tape, vampire connectors, non-fused links, rats nests and Honda regulators


Ignore this troll

Lacing cord
Self vulcanizing high temperature tape
Weather sealed Raychem splices
Spiwrap
flexible conduit
:wink:

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

Soldering on wires that won't need to be disconnected, and covering them with heat shrink or liquid tape. Connections that need to be disconnected should get bullet connectors at the least, with a liberal application of dielectric grease.

My pet peeves include wire nuts, electrical tape, vampire connectors, non-fused links, rats nests and Honda regulators


Ignore this troll

The only tape you should use on harnesses is that self-vulcanising two sided stuff that ends up waterproof and poo poo. It's painful to apply and isn't really practical if you don't take the harness of the bike but it's the best thing out there.

Linedance posted:

flexible conduit

Shaking with rage here.

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


Slavvy posted:

Shaking with rage here.

Sorry, what I meant was fibreglass expandable sleeving but I couldn't think of the right word

E- this stuff: https://www.cableorganizer.com/fiberglass/
EE- hnggg http://www.cableorganizer.com/fiberglass/

Finger Prince fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Nov 13, 2015

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Well I finally found a clean, non-crashed sv with the wiring intact. They do exist!!

PhoenixWing
Feb 13, 2012

So I had the local dealership install a new set of tires on my bike to replace the dumb oversized tires on it, and found the bike handled bizzarely afterwards. Figured it was because they were brand new and much smaller than the others, (first bike, first time I'd put new ones on it), so rode it home anyways. Had some bad wobbling at 75+ on the freeway, but, made it home after just over an hour.

Spent all of today working on it, and just as I was about to take it for a test ride, I saw this:



Absolute loving muppets. Also I'm dumb for not turning around immediately and figuring out why it was handling like that :downs:

Deeters
Aug 21, 2007


Jim Silly-Balls posted:

Well I finally found a clean, non-crashed sv with the wiring intact. They do exist!!



I can't remember the last time I saw an SV that wasn't this color blue. Maybe a black one?

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

PhoenixWing posted:

So I had the local dealership install a new set of tires on my bike to replace the dumb oversized tires on it, and found the bike handled bizzarely afterwards. Figured it was because they were brand new and much smaller than the others, (first bike, first time I'd put new ones on it), so rode it home anyways. Had some bad wobbling at 75+ on the freeway, but, made it home after just over an hour.

Spent all of today working on it, and just as I was about to take it for a test ride, I saw this:



Absolute loving muppets. Also I'm dumb for not turning around immediately and figuring out why it was handling like that :downs:

That is terrifying.

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000
That's loving nuts. How do they miss that? It's supposed to have a cotter pin even.

Similar thing happened on my Ducati once but I had the excuse that the axle nuts are about 2mm thick and have no pin or any other method of locking them.

Here4DaGangBang
Dec 3, 2004

I beat my dick like it owes me money!

PhoenixWing posted:

Spent all of today working on it, and just as I was about to take it for a test ride, I saw this:



Absolute loving muppets. Also I'm dumb for not turning around immediately and figuring out why it was handling like that :downs:

Fuuuuck. gently caress.

I was just thinking the other day about putting some torque stripes on crucial bolts such as the rear axle which doesn't use a cotter pin (but is done up to 110Nm). This has brought the idea back to the front of my mind.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:

That's loving nuts. How do they miss that? It's supposed to have a cotter pin even.

Similar thing happened on my Ducati once but I had the excuse that the axle nuts are about 2mm thick and have no pin or any other method of locking them.

Lol if you think they even put the nut on there. It's still on the ground under the technician's bench.

Retarted Pimple
Jun 2, 2002

Slavvy posted:

Lol technician

You're being quite generous.

clutchpuck
Apr 30, 2004
ro-tard
GROOOAAAAANNNNNNN

http://www.jsonline.com/business/erik-buell-racing-motorcycle-company-deal-hits-a-roadblock-b99616754z1-350596331.html

ultimately unsurprising

Militant Lesbian
Oct 3, 2002

But so, so schadenfreudey.

babyeatingpsychopath
Oct 28, 2000
Forum Veteran


Linedance posted:

Lacing cord
Self vulcanizing high temperature tape
Weather sealed Raychem splices
Spiwrap
flexible conduit
:wink:

I'm redoing my wiring loom now.

I have all of the above in a cart at mouser. $115 to do it The Right Way. Good butt splices (in several sizes), lacing, an rear end-ton of 20AWG, not quite as much 16AWG, thermal-print wire labels, chafe tape, electrical tape. Good splices are like 40 cents per, and you need WAY WAY MORE than you think. I've gone through about sixty splices redoing this loom. I've been through two Wire and Connector Repair courses with the Navy; I know the right way. I also know the way it came from the factory: nonenvironmental splices wrapped in electrical tape, then wrapped in some black plastic goop, then wrapped in MORE electrical tape.

I'm ACTUALLY doing this with harbor freight heat-shrink splices; it works OK. It'll probably only last 6-10 more years like this.

Yuns
Aug 19, 2000

There is an idea of a Yuns, some kind of abstraction, but there is no real me, only an entity, something illusory, and though I can hide my cold gaze and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable: I simply am not there.
So loving angry. I use my motorcycle to commute every morning to the train station. For years, we parked next to the bicycles by side of the station and no one complained or cared but recently the police posted notices on all our motorcycles saying that we couldn't park in bike parking. obviously because someone whined about it. So I started parking in the pay lot for cars. There are no motorcycle designated spots so I have been chaining up my motorcycle in a car spot and paying for parking. The same idiots who whined about us parking for free didn't have the foresight to realize that forcing us to park in pay parking would mean fewer spots for cars to park. Today, I came back late and someone had turned my bike in the spot so that they could fit their car in my spot. They had already left so I have no idea who it is. I am loving heated. First, I paid for that loving spot the exact same amount as a car. Second, you do not touch my loving bike especially not to yank it around while it is chained up and in gear. I going to have a discussion with my town police and parking enforcement. If they are going to force us to park with and pay for car parking, I am not going to tolerate car drivers pulling this bullshit and piggybacking off my spot.

Yuns fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Nov 24, 2015

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

The most upsetting thing about that story is that you never got to see the vehicle. I would've done some terrible things.

builds character
Jan 16, 2008

Keep at it.

Yuns posted:

So loving angry. I use my motorcycle to commute every morning to the train station. For years, we parked next to the bicycles by side of the station and no one complained or cared but recently the police posted notices on all our motorcycles saying that we couldn't park in bike parking. obviously because someone whined about it. So I started parking in the pay lot for cars. There are no motorcycle designated spots so I have been chaining up my motorcycle in a car spot and paying for parking. The same idiots who whined about us parking for free didn't have the foresight to realize that forcing us to park in pay parking would mean fewer spots for cars to park. Today, I came back late and someone had turned my bike in the spot so that they could fit their car in my spot. They had already left so I have no idea who it is. I am loving heated. First, I paid for that loving spot the exact same amount as a car. Second, you do not touch my loving bike especially not to yank it around while it is chained up and in gear. I going to have a discussion with my town police and parking enforcement. If they are going to force us to park with and pay for car parking, I am not going to tolerate car drivers pulling this bullshit and piggybacking off my spot.

Do you live in westchester or nj? Do you have a significant other who can check on your bike to see who's moved it?

Yuns
Aug 19, 2000

There is an idea of a Yuns, some kind of abstraction, but there is no real me, only an entity, something illusory, and though I can hide my cold gaze and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable: I simply am not there.
NJ. I think I will come back early on Wednesday and Tuesday this week to see if I can catch them parked in with me. I live in a small town so it'll be easy to figure out who it is from their car.

Gillingham
Nov 16, 2011
With something like that, the local PD or whatever should be helping you find who moved your drat bike, surely there's some sort of surveillance in a parking structure like that?

nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?
Encyclopedia Brown and the Case of the Moved Motorcycle

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

The thing that really bothres me, which I will never ever understand, is the person who complained in the first place. How were the motorbikes in the cycle parking hurting anything or inconveniencing anyone? They're nothing more than an anal-retentive busybody who wants everything to be between the painted lines and common sense be damned. What kind of hosed up mind does it take to actually call the police over something like that? Are you sure you aren't in new zealand?

nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?
Here's a decade-of-riding-experience bit of advice for you all, Slavvy I am surprised you haven't been able to do this yet.

The only safe place for your bike is out of sight.

Public parking? Dunno what to tell you. Put it as far out of the way as possible.

But if you are anywhere you can put it into a corner where it's hard to see without trouble? Do it first, ask permission later. Most don't care.

Luckily I don't have to worry with city or commute parking too much but even then...talk to any people that work there, they might be cool with you.

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

nsaP posted:

Here's a decade-of-riding-experience bit of advice for you all, Slavvy I am surprised you haven't realized this with your neighbors:

The only safe place for your bike is out of sight.

Public parking? Dunno what to tell you. Put it as far out of the way as possible.

But if you are anywhere you can put it into a corner where it's hard to see without trouble? Do it first, ask permission later. Most don't care.

Luckily I don't have to worry with city or commute parking too much but even then...talk to any people that work there, they might be cool with you.

Can someone with a decade of parking experience confirm his advice?

Edit

Btw, a hard to see spot is often off view of any security cameras.

its all nice on rice
Nov 12, 2006

Sweet, Salty Goodness.



Buglord
Having parked on various parking garages, whether they be (un)paid or (un)guarded, I've not come across any issues.
I've even had drivers tell me (upon leaving) of free or reduced parking in the garage.
If the lot's pretty full and guarded, I'll ask the guard if I can park off to the side somewhere.
poo poo, I remember parking in packs of bikes and scooters under the viaduct. We'd all cram as many bikes into one spot or in the no parking zone as possible. Never got so much as a written warning.

Yuns
Aug 19, 2000

There is an idea of a Yuns, some kind of abstraction, but there is no real me, only an entity, something illusory, and though I can hide my cold gaze and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable: I simply am not there.
Things worked out perfectly today. I pulled into the spot today. It is always the same spot because it is the only spot with a place to chain up and a cop pulled up next to me. He told me they just remarked an entire section of the lot for motorcycles only with lock up points for every motorcycle and escorted me over there. It is a dozen motorcycle only parking spots with bike width marked spots and sunk in tie up points. This is a totally awesome change. Huge appreciation for how the town dealt with this.

builds character
Jan 16, 2008

Keep at it.
I wrote this:

Yuns posted:

NJ. I think I will come back early on Wednesday and Tuesday this week to see if I can catch them parked in with me. I live in a small town so it'll be easy to figure out who it is from their car.

They are a very important person. Why are you parking in their spot?



Before I saw this:

Yuns posted:

Things worked out perfectly today. I pulled into the spot today. It is always the same spot because it is the only spot with a place to chain up and a cop pulled up next to me. He told me they just remarked an entire section of the lot for motorcycles only with lock up points for every motorcycle and escorted me over there. It is a dozen motorcycle only parking spots with bike width marked spots and sunk in tie up points. This is a totally awesome change. Huge appreciation for how the town dealt with this.

^^^ turns out that it is you who is the very important person. Well done.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

stomp clap


Seems an alarmed disc lock would be enough to make most people give up on trying to move it once they'd set it off.

Gillingham
Nov 16, 2011

HenryJLittlefinger posted:

Seems an alarmed disc lock would be enough to make most people give up on trying to move it once they'd set it off.
This, plus parking at a sharp angle so you're more perpendicular to the spot than parallel as well as to the rear of it so they can't squeeze in behind. They aren't rolling your bike anywhere unless the spots next to it are free. If they want to try and pick it up, well you probably have worse worries than just having your bike moved then, but the alarm should help.

edit: Then again this is how people park in motorcycle parking at work, and we actually do rocket science/surgery.

Gillingham fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Nov 24, 2015

clutchpuck
Apr 30, 2004
ro-tard
I know a nerosurgeon and I definitely wouldn't say that practical day-to-day things like parking a motorcycle or not crashing his car into things are exactly his strengths.

its all nice on rice
Nov 12, 2006

Sweet, Salty Goodness.



Buglord
Jesus, the bikers at my community college park better than that.

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

Gillingham posted:

This, plus parking at a sharp angle so you're more perpendicular to the spot than parallel as well as to the rear of it so they can't squeeze in behind. They aren't rolling your bike anywhere unless the spots next to it are free. If they want to try and pick it up, well you probably have worse worries than just having your bike moved then, but the alarm should help.

edit: Then again this is how people park in motorcycle parking at work, and we actually do rocket science/surgery.


I work with doctors every day and I will have you know that they are faaaaaaar too important for mundane tasks like watching where they're going or breathing through their nose.

Yuns posted:

Things worked out perfectly today. I pulled into the spot today. It is always the same spot because it is the only spot with a place to chain up and a cop pulled up next to me. He told me they just remarked an entire section of the lot for motorcycles only with lock up points for every motorcycle and escorted me over there. It is a dozen motorcycle only parking spots with bike width marked spots and sunk in tie up points. This is a totally awesome change. Huge appreciation for how the town dealt with this.

I want to go there. :allears: where do you live?

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


HenryJLittlefinger posted:

Seems an alarmed disc lock would be enough to make most people give up on trying to move it once they'd set it off.

My experience with alarmed disc locks are they will arbitrarily become alarmed if a passing pigeon gives them a sideways glance. They are not to be trusted, or relied on to be silent when undisturbed and annoying only when agitated.

clutchpuck
Apr 30, 2004
ro-tard
I put handlebar tassles on my buddy's under-a-cover R1200GS while the disc lock was armed. Never went off once and I had to move the handlebar to make it happen. Not sure how much they can be trusted.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Mine will randomly go off when I put the key into it. :downs:

Yuns
Aug 19, 2000

There is an idea of a Yuns, some kind of abstraction, but there is no real me, only an entity, something illusory, and though I can hide my cold gaze and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable: I simply am not there.
I am going to share photos of our new parking spots. :iia: I no longer feel like a second class citizen.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

clutchpuck posted:

I know a nerosurgeon and I definitely wouldn't say that practical day-to-day things like parking a motorcycle or not crashing his car into things are exactly his strengths.

Remember: a surgeon is just a mechanic who works on people. We pay them well because their job is important, not because they're particularly brilliant.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




You know what they say

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Shimrod
Apr 15, 2007

race tires on road are a great idea, ask me!

I also work with doctors every day. They're great at what they do ... and that's it.

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