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Including the OP and ED, as well as any frames where the image didn't really move or have any action/static background shots, there are usually ~35,126 frames in an episode. Considering you can duplicate frames for things where lip flaps are going without the background moving, you'd imagine there's still a good 15,000 frames of those are going to have to be drawn for the episode and that's a total spitballing guess. It could be much more.
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Waffleman_ posted:Everything that's been "Animated better in the manga" has involved stuff like sweeping camera angles which I imagine would be a complete goddamn pain to actually animate, so it's completely understandable. Camera Motion and especially rotation is a massive time sink in 2D Animation. The background is a pretty big aspect of any scene and if you have to redraw it for every single frame even at usual Anime 2's or 3's that starts to add up really quick. Even with the usual trick of action cutting the background out it is still really difficult.
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I mean if you are going to complain about the animation in the anime then like go watch the Genos/Saitama sparring session and shut yer hole
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They're probably saving the budget for the Sea King and Boros.
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Nov 16, 2015 17:48
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RatHat posted:They're probably saving the budget for the Sea King and Boros. Yeah that's almost certainly what's going on here. I'd much rather they skimp a bit on the Meteor episode if it means they'll put that effort into the Sea King episodes.
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Nov 16, 2015 19:31
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gnome7 posted:Yeah that's almost certainly what's going on here. I'd much rather they skimp a bit on the Meteor episode if it means they'll put that effort into the Sea King episodes. People are just moaning because the meteor was done so well in the manga, like holy poo poo that was what got me reading in the first place, so it's a bit disappointing that the anime can't even hope to compare, not when skimping on the parts the manga pseudo-animated already. The Sea King arc should be much more easily translatable from manga to anime.
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Nov 16, 2015 19:58
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The Sea King stuff is not going to meet your expectations Like I'm not saying it will be bad, but your expectations for it are more than what can probably be delivered upon.
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Nov 16, 2015 20:06
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The building visibly broke and then started collapsing when saitama jumped, thats close enough, we cannot expect perfection after the budget they spent on metal knight landing.
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Baal posted:The Sea King stuff is not going to meet your expectations No it will literally reach through the screen and pat me tenderly on the head just like momma did while I watch it
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Nov 16, 2015 20:09
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When all is said and done the anime will not be better than the manga. And this isn't me knocking the anime in the slightest.
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Nov 16, 2015 20:36
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When all is said and done everyone will have to: watch 100 minutes of anime, read 100 pages of murata's version, 100 chapters of ONE and make 10 minutes of AMV. Every single day.
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Nov 16, 2015 20:40
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AtomikKrab posted:The building visibly broke and then started collapsing when saitama jumped, thats close enough, we cannot expect perfection after the budget they spent on metal knight landing. Nah, it only started doing that when the meteor shrapnel started blowing the city apart. The reason I complained about that in particular is, yeah I get it panning shots and stuff are difficult and such but that is an example of something that's really not and they just... don't do it for some reason. Like the anime is still great and all, and these kinds of minor nitpicks that don't matter are the harshest criticism I can levy against it. It does some stuff great, like the art style shifts with Asura Rhino and such were super cool. Maybe I'm just crazy too, but I always imagined that Genos was firing blue laser beams rather than huge flame jets for some reason.
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Nov 16, 2015 20:54
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I heard somewhere that Blu-ray versions of animes are better animated than the broadcast version. Is that true?
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Nov 16, 2015 21:20
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Mraagvpeine posted:I heard somewhere that Blu-ray versions of animes are better animated than the broadcast version. Is that true? Sometimes, but by no means always.
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Nov 16, 2015 21:23
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And it's usually not a significant change. Mostly just cleaning up the art of what's already there. Unless you're Shaft, then you go hogwild.
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Nov 16, 2015 21:27
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Prison Warden posted:Nah, it only started doing that when the meteor shrapnel started blowing the city apart. Rewatch the episode, Saitama makes a giant crater on the rooftop as he's jumping off of it.
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Mraagvpeine posted:I heard somewhere that Blu-ray versions of animes are better animated than the broadcast version. Is that true? Usually stuff like "oh these frames make the main character look like a coffee stain, fix him up but keep the background and everything"
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Nov 16, 2015 21:30
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:Usually stuff like "oh these frames make the main character look like a coffee stain, fix him up but keep the background and everything" There were some really good ones in Jojo, like where people had teeny tiny pin heads, or just like awkardly laid-out scenes. Davidpro did some really good clean-ups in their blurays.
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Nov 16, 2015 21:32
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a kitten posted:Sometimes, but by no means always. Yeah, it's not often they'll straight up add or improve animation but it's common that they'll improve art when it's noticeably off model and poor looking.
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Nov 16, 2015 21:35
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:When all is said and done everyone will have to: watch 100 minutes of anime, read 100 pages of murata's version, 100 chapters of ONE and make 10 minutes of AMV. Every single day. Gladly.
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Nov 16, 2015 21:51
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I'm glad they aren't trying to match the flipbook sequences. Gives them something different to point to for why they're worth seeing alongside the manga. Only shame is that's pretty much all the meteor arc had going for it since it wasn't a sentient threat.
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TriffTshngo posted:I'm glad they aren't trying to match the flipbook sequences. Gives them something different to point to for why they're worth seeing alongside the manga. Only shame is that's pretty much all the meteor arc had going for it since it wasn't a sentient threat. I agree with this. There are limitations with the animation mostly regarding time so at the very least the anime will get people to read the manga(s). Therefore there will be more OPM in people's lives and for the better.
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Nov 16, 2015 22:32
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And then there's Kagerou Project.
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People complaining about the quality of the anime versus the manga is starting to get on my nerves. Let's not forget how many goddamn times Murata drew a piece of a chapter that encapsulated a few seconds, only to redraw those exact few seconds weeks later for higher detail, and then later redraw them again in lower quality so it's something an actual magazine could feasibly publish. Murata isn't too good for anime, he's too good for manga.
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Mordaedil posted:And then there's Kagerou Project. The hell?
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Mordaedil posted:And then there's Kagerou Project. Am I supposed to prefer the tv version? Because I do. There's something weird about the artstyle of the DVD one that makes it awful to look at. I'm not even sure how to describe it.
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Nov 17, 2015 00:05
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My pitch when I suggest this manga to people: "It's a great story, but the animation is not perfect. Most of the time it's just panels."
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Nov 17, 2015 00:14
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The music makes up for it. Murata is a horrible musician.
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Prison Warden posted:Nah, it only started doing that when the meteor shrapnel started blowing the city apart. The difference between the meteor frags raining down and saitama jumping is about a second. I just checked the manga version of the episode, scene matches up pretty much perfectly, and it is a meteor hitting the damaged building that drops it so I was wrong there, and saitama doesn't smash it down a couple of levels in the manga but it does have a better shot of the pavement all around the building cracking.
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Just to be clear, and I think this is the common sentiment, this anime is amazing. It's what modern anime that doesn't cheap out and employ cheap lazy techniques (Dragonball Super) should look like. I am 100% satisfied with the adaptation, it literally can't be any better. What I am longing for along with others is a piece of high art that just isn't possible technically or financially in the present, where every frame looks like it's been lifted from the manga. The manga is a godly work by a god among men and it's alright if the anime can't match up to it.
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Nov 17, 2015 01:45
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Don't worry guys, Murata will redraw the anime for the Blu-ray.
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tsob posted:Am I supposed to prefer the tv version? Because I do. There's something weird about the artstyle of the DVD one that makes it awful to look at. I'm not even sure how to describe it.
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Pyroi posted:Don't worry guys, Murata will redraw the anime for the Blu-ray. The BR disc will just contain a link to stream Murata's latest revision of the episode. Your Blu-Ray player's WiFi connection isn't just for firmware updates and Netflix anymore.
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MonsterEnvy posted:The hell? The intro to that episode was a flashback to when they were all kids and the TV broadcast had the entire sequence in really cheap 3D with cell shading.
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PaganGoatPants posted:The music makes up for it. Murata is a horrible musician. He's just bleeding edge, returning music to the introspection and subtlety of conceptual art as seen in blank canvases and 4'33".
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Nov 17, 2015 02:32
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Pyroi posted:Don't worry guys, Murata will redraw the anime for the Blu-ray. I feel like we should just get an emote for that joke now. Someone makes it every other page.
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Nov 17, 2015 02:43
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Pyroi posted:Don't worry guys, Murata will redraw the anime for the Blu-ray. Instead of that, the entire anime will be redrawn by ONE.
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Crain posted:I feel like we should just get an emote for that joke now. Well, yeah. We have to keep revising the joke until it's perfect.
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Pyroi posted:Don't worry guys, Murata will redraw the anime for the Blu-ray. Turns out he only does HD DVD. Curse you Sony!
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chiasaur11 posted:Well, yeah. We have to keep revising the joke until it's perfect.
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