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They are addressing it somewhat in 3.2. Crafted gear is going to be on par with end raid gear from the get go. It will certainly be locked behind specialist recipes and will certainly require high end poo poo to make.
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Niton posted:For starters, don't devalue all of the new crafting & gathered materials by putting them in maps from day 1 of the expansion's release. Also, don't gate everything useful behind both crafter and gatherer weekly tokens - gathering tokens should directly provide the materials needed, and crafting tokens should provide crafting gear, easier chance to HQ for specialization, or other QoL stuff. or give people a reason to want HQ crafted gear I'm melding 2* crafted gear purely in the hopes that they give us the ability to craft DoW stuff that's actually useful again, but it probably won't happen since they're trying to get away from melding mainstat and poo poo. Crafted gear is worthless because it's worthless, not because of some imaginary pubbie that undercuts you.
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Positive posted:or give people a reason to want HQ crafted gear I am almost certain they said that with the addition of materia slots on raid/tomestone gear, that crafted gear will be on par. This is a catch up patch. poo poo is supposed to be cheap and affordable right now.
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I don't see the problem with crafting, everything works fine for me. Maybe you guys should just chill out and stop caring? Epic hardcore crafter tears for the win.
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I also really really don't like locking recipes behind specialisms.
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I don't see the problem.
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Mordiceius posted:I also really really don't like locking recipes behind specialisms. I also really really don't like your posting we all have our peeves it would seem
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reminder that mordiceius bought gil to buy his house and now he cant afford to furnish it
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megalodong posted:This is like the wow goldmaking thread where every post is someone complaining about people undercutting and not either bothering to buy out the cheaper stuff, selling the materials instead, or simply realising they are being owned by ~*pubbies*~ "pubbies undercutting me  " is the most basic bitch of all mmo economy complaints and its almost never an actual problemintroducing new items so high in volume and limited in use that they're not even worth gathering within a week is more like an actual problem
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Mordiceius posted:I also really really don't like locking recipes behind specialisms. Fister Roboto posted:I don't see the problem with crafting, everything works fine for me. Maybe you guys should just chill out and stop caring? Epic hardcore crafter tears for the win.
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Mr. Nice! posted:I am almost certain they said that with the addition of materia slots on raid/tomestone gear, that crafted gear will be on par. This is a catch up patch. poo poo is supposed to be cheap and affordable right now. All crafted combat gear has been cheap, affordable, and worthless for the majority of Heavensward so far with the minor exception of accessories for tanks. I'm more than aware this is a catchup patch, this isn't isolated to the current patch. I'm suggesting a way to fix crafting, that is: add combat gear that is crafted that's useful.
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Doublestep posted:reminder that mordiceius bought gil to buy his house and now he cant afford to furnish it That's an odd accusation. But cool, thanks? I'm sitting on about 10mil Gil right now, so I guess I just suck at decorating? It's more that I was waiting for 3.1 house sharing so I could have my wife decorate it. But in the time leading up to 3.1, I decided I'd much rather have a house in the goblet.
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cheetah7071 posted:Remove crafting and gathering from the game
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Mordiceius posted:That's an odd accusation. But cool, thanks? Dang dude 10m did you make that by manipulating the glamour prism market
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megalodong posted:This is like the wow goldmaking thread where every post is someone complaining about people undercutting and not either bothering to buy out the cheaper stuff, selling the materials instead, or simply realising they are being owned by ~*pubbies*~ Seriously, people would constantly complain about being undercut and how THOSE PUBBIES are just throwing money away without realizing that no one gives a gently caress except for their fellow spergs
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Elentor posted:Pretty much what you and Samba said. There's an entire tier of DoH/DoL gear that is incredibly expensive, requires an already very expensive set of melded gear in order for you merely be able to craft and is one hundred percent useless because there is nothing in the game that requires anything remotely close to it. You also cannot use it as glamour, which is downright criminal because these are some of the best looking sets in the whole game. No joke, after I decided to quit raiding, I held out for a few weeks gathering and crafting collectables. That is, until it really sunk in that everything people really wanted was just handed to them as quest rewards. It was a pretty massive let down that on top of all the new grinding they added, I couldn't even make a new goon's day by crafting them some sweet hq titanium this or that, which was something I loved to do with mythtil, etc. I didn't like the raiding but they might have kept me around if crafter's and gatherers weren't so jerked around. At some level, I know high end DoH/L has always been a bit of a time sink, but something about the way it was done in 3.0 just felt so half-assed. 
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Fire the economy guy and hire Brooklyn Master.
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Whizbang posted:Fire the economy guy and hire Brooklyn Master. I think the first step to that is hiring a economy guy.
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Mr. Nice! posted:They are addressing it somewhat in 3.2. Crafted gear is going to be on par with end raid gear from the get go. It will certainly be locked behind specialist recipes and will certainly require high end poo poo to make. don't worry it'll end up being worse than diadem gear and nobody will buy it 
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Virulence posted:don't worry  So I would think we can likely expect 3.2 stats to be something along the lines of: New crafted gear: i200 Dungeons: i200 Law: gone Esoterics: uncapped New tomestone: i220 Alex part 2 easy: i220 Alex part 2 savage: i230 with items to upgrade new tomestone gear to i230
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Xenoveritas posted:Why would you bother HQing gear that only exists for glamours anyway? E-peen, mostly. Thing is, HQ glamour gear is visually indistinguishable from NQ. Maybe that's a good thing, maybe it's not, but I think I'd have liked to have the option of HQing glamour gear, because of a special visual effect, or something. Maybe like the Augmented crafting gear from 2.X? SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Nov 17, 2015 |
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For a second I considered gathering up mats and having someone craft me a Sky Pirate set for a secondary job, because at this point of the game, gently caress running Alexander Normal in pugs, they're still horrible at it. Sure it'll cost gil but it's only 5 ilvls lower and I could just toss some materia on it and half-assedly make up the difference. Then I realized that the Sky Pirate sets don't have materia slots. Go home crafting, you're drunk.
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I did Diadem HM for the first time. Was this thing just designed for people who missed FFXI?
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nuru posted:I did Diadem HM for the first time. Was this thing just designed for people who missed FFXI? What's the difference between Diadem HM and NM? Cause they're already HUGE HP sponges in NM.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:You guys look too hard at the high end, and not enough at the entire market. I tell you the truth, I've made 2 mil since Tuesday morning. I haven't been able to keep my glamour crystals in stock, because they keep selling out, with people wanting to reglamour their old stuff over their new Diadem poo poo, or their new Bloodborne gear over their existing crap.  
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MikeyLikesIt posted:What's the difference between Diadem HM and NM? Cause they're already HUGE HP sponges in NM. Normal mobs are rank III to V, star mobs spawn from tracks, etc. The HP values seem fine, but if you only have 1 party then 1 star and up starts to be a big sponge. This is almost certainly to catch people buying items absentmindedly.
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MikeyLikesIt posted:What's the difference between Diadem HM and NM? Cause they're already HUGE HP sponges in NM. You get 1 person shouting out orders in HM instead of 30+ in NM
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I just had a pretty solid diadem with goons. I got two different 210 pieces today that have replaced my gordian/esoterics.
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You can tell that's not me, because I wouldn't be caught dead selling in not-Ishgard. Because people are dumb and don't understand market taxes, they leave their retainers in whatever city they hired them in, while Ishgard has been running a permanent 3% sales tax ever since the expansion launched. (Down from 5%.) (Also, other grades of crystals use exactly the same mats, but return better profits. And selling them in stacks of 99 is most assuredly either stupid, or trying to make money off someone's stupidity.) SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Nov 17, 2015 |
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No one is going to buy 99 glamours even at that price.hth HQ draconic str pots sell for a nice penny. 5k for normal 35k for HQ. Not sure if my time was really worth the gil I made off of them though because fury mint can be a giant pain the dick. Got about 2m for selling 60 of those.
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GLORIOUS. And world first?
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You can still get back onto the balcony for the new house glamour by using the CT2 sword: just angle your jump so you jump towards the top tip of the sword around the piece of wood holding the sign up and you'll get up high enough to jump up. Credit to Doctor Quinn for getting finding out how to get that consistently.
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Nov 17, 2015 05:22
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What an eyesore, I'm calling the HOA.
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Yes!
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(excal) gently caress YOU, ADDERS. Man this felt good. 
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I suppose I might as well post this here. If you use the software authenticator on iOS, do not upgrade to iOS 9.2 because the authenticator will not run on 9.2. Also, iOS 9.1 has known security vulnerabilities that 9.2 will likely fix, so if you intend to connect your phone to the Internet, you should install it as soon as it's released.
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