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Nexus 6p got band 12 certification from T-Mobile so now just wait for an update? http://www.t-mobile.com/optional-services/coverage-phones-700.html
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TraderStav posted:The part that never sat right with me with the watch smart unlock is that I could be within a decent distance of my phone and it'd still unlock. For instance, I leave it at my desk to go talk to a coworker, it's exposed. Yeah that is an issue but I never leave my phone unattended. In the pocket every time I get up.
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Nov 16, 2015 23:16
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Color me surprised. The Zenfone 2 and Zenfone 2 Laser will get Marshmallow. No timeline though.
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Nov 17, 2015 00:01
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It is TYOOL 2015, nigh 2016. All rejoice as Google has seen fit to bestow upon us the gift of Android Marshmallow. And yet there's still no loving way to determine what's causing the Keep Awake in Android OS without having to root. Come the gently caress on, Google, why have you not seen the need for more granular power use graphs? 
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Nov 17, 2015 00:55
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Reverse Centaur posted:I have smart unlock with my watch so the fingerprint scanner is unused. But it is cool. Another kind of lovely thing with this is that it doesn't work with Android Pay. You still have to type your password in manually for it. Kills all the convenience having to type my long rear end password even though my Bluetooth headset is acting as authentication. Fingerprint scanner makes it still convenient. Unless your watch also does Android Pay itself without having to do any hassle stuff. But I don't think any do yet? DemonMage fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Nov 17, 2015 |
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Nov 17, 2015 01:17
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Watches don't do Android pay. But tap to pay is disabled almost everywhere in Vancouver it seems.
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Nov 17, 2015 01:51
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I Android Pay'd for my McDonalds McMuffin at lunch in TYOL 2015. Really though, the finger print makes Android Pay great. With Smart Unlock I had to always do an awkward reenter password dance and it discouraged me from using anything other than a simple PIN
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Nov 17, 2015 02:18
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Karthe posted:And yet there's still no loving way to determine what's causing the Keep Awake in Android OS without having to root. Come the gently caress on, Google, why have you not seen the need for more granular power use graphs? Yeah, idgi. It seems a really obvious and easy way to head off people assuming there's something wrong with their phone if you can show them exactly what lovely app they probably don't need is causing it. "THIS PHONE IS poo poo WITH A TERRIBLE BATTERY  " *posts screenshot of battery graph showing a non-stop wakelock* is one of the most common posts on /r/Nexus6P right now.
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Nov 17, 2015 02:51
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I still haven't used Android Pay yet. The fingerprint sensor is nice, but I'm still getting used to the size in my pocket. Had to use the old N5 for something, and wow did it seems small. And yes, it does need finer grain power stuff.
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Nov 17, 2015 03:43
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ilkhan posted:I still haven't used Android Pay yet. The fingerprint sensor is nice, but I'm still getting used to the size in my pocket. Apparently I wear girly pants because it actually sticks out of my pocket a bit. Good thing pick-pockets aren't common around here. Also needed to grab some files off my super tiny N5 yesterday. How'd I even live with that thing?
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Nov 17, 2015 04:10
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What's the go to android simulator for Windows these days. I got 2 loving monitors and would like to use them with fallout 4.
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Nov 17, 2015 07:27
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ilkhan posted:I still haven't used Android Pay yet. I'd love to use Android Pay but apparently it doesn't work with Chase cards.
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Nov 17, 2015 07:29
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Cerepol posted:What's the go to android simulator for Windows these days. I got 2 loving monitors and would like to use them with fallout 4. You could just mirror your Android device on to the monitor. If you insist on using an emulator, Genymotion will be faster than the ones built in to Android Studio.
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Nov 17, 2015 08:20
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Maybe I just don't get Googles new vision but can someone explain to me why I'd want to use Pay at all? Is taking a card out of your wallet really that terrible? Please goons, explain to me why I should put my credit/debit cards on ~the cloud~
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Nov 17, 2015 09:10
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FlyingCheese posted:Maybe I just don't get Googles new vision but can someone explain to me why I'd want to use Pay at all? Is taking a card out of your wallet really that terrible? Please goons, explain to me why I should put my credit/debit cards on ~the cloud~ It's 2015, get over the cloud. Anyone who wants your data already has all of it.
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Nov 17, 2015 09:11
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The ideal future is not having to carry your cards on you. Multiple states are looking into digital licenses too. And it's easier than messing with your wallet when it's accepted everywhere and usable via your watch too.
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FlyingCheese posted:Maybe I just don't get Googles new vision but can someone explain to me why I'd want to use Pay at all? Is taking a card out of your wallet really that terrible? Please goons, explain to me why I should put my credit/debit cards on ~the cloud~ It's nice not having to carry my wallet at all if I know I'm going to places that accept NFC payments. Also, Pay extends beyond NFC. It will eventually be integrated into websites and apps so you can pay without having to manually type your credit card info into the phone. Super Dude fucked around with this message at 10:42 on Nov 17, 2015 |
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Nov 17, 2015 10:40
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FlyingCheese posted:Maybe I just don't get Googles new vision but can someone explain to me why I'd want to use Pay at all? Is taking a card out of your wallet really that terrible? Please goons, explain to me why I should put my credit/debit cards on ~the cloud~ The natural adrenaline rush when you risk dropping your metal-and-glass device, and resulting dopamine high after demonstrating contactless payment!! to the stoned teenager behind the counter at McDonalds, means lower related spending on booze, cigarettes, and category 3 pornography. In the glorious future of fragmented company and country-specific payment methods, and questionable customer protections, your literal house brick of a wallet can take its rightful place: propping up the corner of your bed.
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Nov 17, 2015 11:03
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so I could say that I finally figured out what this god damned cube is doing. Get well Lowtax.
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Cerepol posted:What's the go to android simulator for Windows these days. I got 2 loving monitors and would like to use them with fallout 4. Amiduos, definitely, provided your computer meets the reqs. e: link, you need hardware virtualization turned on in your bios. Manky fucked around with this message at 12:47 on Nov 17, 2015 |
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Nov 17, 2015 12:42
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FlyingCheese posted:Maybe I just don't get Googles new vision but can someone explain to me why I'd want to use Pay at all? Is taking a card out of your wallet really that terrible? Please goons, explain to me why I should put my credit/debit cards on ~the cloud~ Much like all other headline worthy things like wireless charging and etc, nerds go ape poo poo over stuff like this (me included) but most people don't care at all. Feel free to keep using your cards
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Nov 17, 2015 14:57
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Daily Forecast posted:I'd love to use Android Pay but apparently it doesn't work with Chase cards.
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Nov 17, 2015 15:07
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DemonMage posted:The ideal future is not having to carry your cards on you. Multiple states are looking into digital licenses too. And it's easier than messing with your wallet when it's accepted everywhere and usable via your watch too. Not to be  but there's no way I'd every hand my phone over to a police officer to show them a digital license.
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Nov 17, 2015 15:12
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That is indeed one of the concerns. They're supposed to have barcodes on them, which may eliminate the need for that. And it should certainly lock your phone (with password required) if the application is exited or you pull up the task manager. It's supposedly coming soon, some states are looking at having it accessible as soon as next year. Mandatory is going to be a long way out, and it'll be a trivial thing by that point for lots of reasons.
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Nov 17, 2015 15:22
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SIR FAT JONY IVES posted:Not to be I would hope the point of a digital license would be being able to beam it over to the police officer, otherwise there's nothing but disadvantages to it. Then again it wouldn't surprise me either.
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FlyingCheese posted:Maybe I just don't get Googles new vision but can someone explain to me why I'd want to use Pay at all? Is taking a card out of your wallet really that terrible? Please goons, explain to me why I should put my credit/debit cards on ~the cloud~ That said: SIR FAT JONY IVES posted:Not to be
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Nov 17, 2015 15:27
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Are contactless debit cards a thing in the US? Pretty much everyone has them in the UK now and everywhere supports them. What little use I've seen of apple pay has kind of been treated like a gimmick and just using your card like normal is quicker. My bank actually has an nfc sticker you can put on your phone to replicate your card if you really want to wave your phone around
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Nov 17, 2015 15:29
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They're new in the US. Most banks started switching over this year as Visa and Mastercard gave a liability deadline of October 2015. Meaning whoever didn't switch to the new EMV cards is liable. If your bank didn't start issuing them, they're liable for fraudulent charges. If as a merchant, you don't have a machine that accepts EMV, you're liable. If both have new EMV-capable machines, then Visa/MC will continue to deal with fraudulent stuff as they did.
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Nov 17, 2015 15:33
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Ah ok, we've had them for a few years now and its now more uncommon to see a card without it
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Nov 17, 2015 15:36
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Skarsnik posted:Are contactless debit cards a thing in the US? Pretty much everyone has them in the UK now and everywhere supports them. Bear in mind the US banking system is basically stuck in the 19th century (and fragmented as gently caress). When I lived over there I got a physical, paper paycheque on payday, and had to use another physical, paper cheque to pay my rent! As a result it tends to move to new technologies pretty slowly.
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Endless Mike posted:Added security. Each transaction uses a dynamic token that can't be easily broken or stolen. Also, with the US FINALLY transitioning to chip-based cards, NFC payments are, in fact, faster. Insurance companies starting doing insurance cards on the phone, and I'm lol nope.
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DemonMage posted:They're new in the US. Most banks started switching over this year as Visa and Mastercard gave a liability deadline of October 2015. Meaning whoever didn't switch to the new EMV cards is liable. If your bank didn't start issuing them, they're liable for fraudulent charges. If as a merchant, you don't have a machine that accepts EMV, you're liable. If both have new EMV-capable machines, then Visa/MC will continue to deal with fraudulent stuff as they did. He said contactless, not EMV. You can see from DemonMage's post that the US is just now moving onto EMV. Contactless has been available on some credit cards but rarely any debit and the whole contactless thing has low terminal deployment. Part of the push for phone payment is part of the retooling required for EMV adoption. If you've got to buy a new reader might as well get one that'll do contactless as well.
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FunOne posted:He said contactless, not EMV. And then disable the feature via software so you can push your own, lovely payment system! SIR FAT JONY IVES posted:Insurance companies starting doing insurance cards on the phone, and I'm lol nope.
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Nov 17, 2015 15:47
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The EMV standard is chip and pin, as well as contactless. It includes a magnetic strip for backwards compatibility. Lots of major retailers have support for contactless, though some of them disable it because they already have enough trouble with people being too stupid to understand how to use the strip version, let alone this newfangled thing. Which is probably why the new machines for reading them also allow you to insert the card at the bottom and it keeps it there until the transaction is complete, reading via the chip. So it's using the more secure version, but it's familiar to people scared of new things. [Edit] Also speaking of antiquated, I still occasionally see people writing paper checks at grocery stores every once in awhile. It's mostly old people, but still 
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Nov 17, 2015 15:48
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Endless Mike posted:And then disable the feature via software so you can push your own, lovely payment system! The Exxon branded gas station / convenience store near my house recently updated its credit card machines, ostensibly for the EMV switch. Nice new customer facing terminals with a big ol wireless icon that pops up when it is time to pay, so I tried my phone. Crashed the whole register, had to reboot the register and the credit card machine. Turns out that while they have new equipment, they're still not setup for EMV which the credit terminal knows to reject, but wasn't configured properly to not reject contactless.
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DemonMage posted:[Edit] Also speaking of antiquated, I still occasionally see people writing paper checks at grocery stores every once in awhile. It's mostly old people, but still I had to write one a few weeks ago because someone I know didn't have any online payment set up (Paypal, Wallet, etc.), and I didn't have hundreds of dollars in cash on me.
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Nov 17, 2015 16:32
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TenaciousTomato posted:Definitely turned my 6P off inadvertently in my pocket today. Noticed like 45 mins later. Power off should only be available if the phone is unlocked, with a longer press, or both, imo. This happens to me, a lot, too. Pretty annoying.
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Nov 17, 2015 17:25
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Do any US stores have the 5x or 6P in stock?
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FlyingCheese posted:Maybe I just don't get Googles new vision but can someone explain to me why I'd want to use Pay at all? Is taking a card out of your wallet really that terrible? Please goons, explain to me why I should put my credit/debit cards on ~the cloud~ Another thing is that Android Pay allows card issuers to virtualize the cc number which is a good layer of security because the virtual number is only used for that one transaction. So even if it's somehow stolen it would be useless. Finally, if you have a fingerprint reader on your phone, it's usually quite a bit faster than fishing out your credit card and sticking it in the machine.
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Nov 17, 2015 17:33
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Was finally ready to bite the bullet and buy a Nexus 6P, but lo black is again out of stock 
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Syrinxx posted:You can't just swipe the magstripe and put it back in your pocket any more. I have yet to see an EMV terminal that doesn't have a magstripe reader as well.
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