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For what it's worth, I don't think MotP is some grand experimental track - it's pop. It was featured prominently in the opening of the London Olympics. It sounds cool, but Matt hardly has to do anything when they play it live. I wouldn't want an entire album of Space Dementia nonsense. I'm glad that we got as many solid songs out of this album as we did. I like it a lot overall and love some individual songs, but it has a weak ending.
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Volkerball posted:I can get what you're saying. But look at it this way. With some luck, if you aren't big into Muse, you won't have heard this song, so you can get the vibe I'm talking about that I hope to get from new Muse songs. I want to just empty quote this forever because it articulated exactly my feelings about old Muse and this newest album.
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the truth posted:For what it's worth, I don't think MotP is some grand experimental track - it's pop. It was featured prominently in the opening of the London Olympics. It sounds cool, but Matt hardly has to do anything when they play it live. I'd disagree there, MoP is pop in that its a 4 minute track with obvious hooks yeah, but stylstically its quite unique, in the sense that I couldn't picture another rock band doing anything like it. Its true that live Matt barely has to do anything, but thats because it leans so heavily on instrumentation other than guitar riffs. Its experimenting in the context that its a rock band pushing their style in another direction rather than "experimental" in the sense of being a 7+ minute song without verse chorus verse structure.
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I struggle to see why Sing for Absolution "is unlike anything else you'd hear from any other band" - I don't think Absolution is a particularly off-the-wall album, but instead an album of smart, robust, thrilling rock songs... and Map of the Problematique, despite being awesome, is basically Depeche Mode. OoS remains Muse's most "experimental" work. It has a kind of gothic hysteria to it that they've never recaptured. Even in songs with names like "Hysteria" (terrible name for a great song, that).
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Aug 30, 2015 05:10
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vvvv DEAD INSIDE vvvv
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Popcorn posted:and Map of the Problematique, despite being awesome, is basically Depeche Mode. Ooh thats a good catch actually. I could see a Depeche Mode song in Muse style or vice versa.
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massive spider posted:Ooh thats a good catch actually. I could see a Depeche Mode song in Muse style or vice versa. They're definitely a major influence on later Muse (though usually to poor effect) - see also Undisclosed Desires and Dead Inside.
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"Aftermath" remains one of the most baffling tracks on the album to me. I think we all suspected that Muse would one day be crazy enough to do a full-blown, quite-possibly-serious power ballad. And yet somehow it doesn't sound nearly overblown and cheesy enough. How did that happen? It almost seems like like they deliberately avoided really delivering on the concept; the climax of the song, where it would be really easy to go for some crazy glory notes and guitar licks, just kind of passes by unnoticed. I mean, subverting expectations can definitely be a cool thing, but it should be to some particular end. I don't know what they were going for here. Sir Lemming fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Aug 31, 2015 |
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Aug 31, 2015 14:20
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Unfulfilled Potential #?? would be apt alternate titles for the.majority of their post-BHaR tracks. Probably an album of good to great and two albums of meh to ok when judged from a "these three can and did reach such great heights". Oh well.
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I like this album but then I like Panic Station so im prob a Bad Muse Fan™
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Oo, they did an awesome cover of CHVRCHES - Lies for the BBC Live Lounge today. Hear it around 14:30: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03273ws
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It's ideologically correct to like panic station imo.
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Volkerball posted:It's ideologically correct to like panic station imo. 
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European tour, first leg of world tour announced. Starts April next year. Sounds like they will have a round stage this time and be in the middle of the stadium. I don't think much of their recent albums but will still definitely get tickets. Thought the tour for the last album was excellent.
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Paperback Writer posted:Oo, they did an awesome cover of CHVRCHES - Lies for the BBC Live Lounge today. Hear it around 14:30: Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12D2LbImiuc I think it's really good. Makes me yearn for what Muse could be doing with this kind of aggressive synth-pop style. God, it's great to hear Matt singing good lyrics.
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Ah interesting, I just noticed he's reading the lyrics. Maybe that's why he keeps his songs so simple, it's been memory issues all along.
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GTO posted:Sounds like they will have a round stage this time and be in the middle of the stadium. They'll have a 360° stage like U2 or any boyband from the past 15 years already had. I'm sure it'll be an amazing production (it always is), but I'm quite wary if this is the right move. You got three people on stage (okay, it's four. But the fourth touring member is basically invisible) two of which don't (Chris) or can't (Dom) move around all that much. Matt tries to rock out as much as possible, but he's stationary a lot as well for obvious reasons. I hope they'll make up that fact somehow, but I have a bad feeling about this. I also have no clue how a mosh pit is supposed to find itself in a crowd that's standing around in a circle. I want to throw myself around during the classics 
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A mosh pit shouldn't be a big problem, as long as the floor surface area is big enough.
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Yeah, that's not the problem. I'm sure there will be one somewhere on the floor but there's like a poo poo ton more ground to cover and look for. What if I'm on the complete opposite side of where the action is taking place? I wouldn't even know and will be trapped between all the people that just want to clap along to Starlight like the last time (they played Survival as closer and people actually starting leaving the venue during the rock out part at the end because it was...too heavy I guess?).
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AlexF posted:Yeah, that's not the problem. I'm sure there will be one somewhere on the floor but there's like a poo poo ton more ground to cover and look for. What if I'm on the complete opposite side of where the action is taking place? I wouldn't even know and will be trapped between all the people that just want to clap along to Starlight like the last time (they played Survival as closer and people actually starting leaving the venue during the rock out part at the end because it was...too heavy I guess?). The part with the pyro? 
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Pyro, confetti, everything. I rocked out so hard at that moment and then, after the song, looked around and people were just gone. It was really strange.
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AlexF posted:Pyro, confetti, everything. I rocked out so hard at that moment and then, after the song, looked around and people were just gone. It was really strange. Yeah I totally commiserate here, the catalog already brings out everyone and their mother (literally). The US leg of the psycho tour had a bunch of smaller groups throwing down but nothing congealing into a big "dis be the throwdown spot". That stage is gonna further fracture things.. Maybe one side will be more "Matt's side" which usually ends up being the rowdy section.
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I also don't like that they are offering VIP packages. That is some Katy Perry level of ripping of your fans. Fo shame, Muse. Fo shame...
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Ticket prices also seem around 50% more than last time, for the London shows at least.
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AlexF posted:I also don't like that they are offering VIP packages. That is some Katy Perry level of ripping of your fans. Fo shame, Muse. Fo shame... When I went to the pre-Resistance Wembley shows, they had a sectioned off VIP section at the front. I don't know if that's what you mean but I always hated that.
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This is the official VIP package for the tour:Greedy rear end Muse posted:- One (1) premium reserved ticket in rows 1-15 of the lower bowl or on the GA floor All for the very fair price of 195€ ($220) in Europe. No meet & greet, not even one drink included. It's basically a poster, a nicer ticket and a chance at buying merch a little earlier. Here's a look at the floor plan for Munich.  Blue sections are VIP seats. Look at that stage! If you're lucky you'll see about 35% of the show! I'm still looking forward to this, but all the info until now makes me quite nervous.
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Metallica almost always does their arena tours in the round, I prefer it a lot to the standard stage on one end setup. Drums in the middle on a spot that spins a few degrees every few songs, mics all over the stage for the rest of the guys. The last time I saw Muse was 11 years ago at a place that held like, I don't know, 500 people? They weren't very known at all in Canada back then. I do remember them coming out in costumes as it was Halloween. Last tour though they sold out the local arena two nights in a row. Times have changed.
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gently caress yeah, Phantogram is opening for them at their California/Oregon tour dates in December. They've picked really good openers the last few times through on their arena stops(Silversun Pickups, Metric, Passion Pit, Band of Skulls)...
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Getting tickets for that Staples Center show was a bitch and a half. I'm basically in the rafters, which will be an interesting contrast from the floor seats I have at the San Diego show two days earlier.
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I have a lot of love for the album. Every record they release is different, and they take epic risks. I'd be bored if it were all samey. I know a lot of people compare them to Queen; and they were known for taking equally baffling risks and still churning out fantastic songs. A lot of the tracks are safe, but Aftermath is one of their most polished songs, and sounds like they've done nothing but release Clapton ballads for years. Incredible. Drones is also wildly different, and lands pretty well considering. Not sure it's got any instant classics, but holy poo poo I can't stop listening to aftermath.
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Got my tickets to see them in Vancouver in December. It will be the third time I will be seeing them live. They always put on a great show with amazing spectacle. As for the new album, I have been giving it a listen to and yea, the music sounds good but Jesus do the lyrics suck. I kind of wish Matt was more unintelligible in his pronunciations just so I could ignore what he was singing.
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New stage design is awesome, glad I get to see them 5 times in December (conveniently in town for each of those dates) https://www.instagram.com/p/-OKpmYBWWp/?tagged=muse Also they played The Globalist and it seems like it'll be rotated with Citizen Erased
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There's a bit of anger in the Muse fan communities because Matt didn't play guitar on Uprising or Dead Inside last night, he only sang. The setlist was a bit of a mess, too. It was chock full of playback tracks (Drill Sergeant, Isolated System, Prelude, JFK, and I poo poo you not, the song Drones twice). Revolt and The Globalist were debuted, but apart from that there was nothing interesting outside of the usual setlist staples: http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/muse/2015/palacio-de-los-deportes-mexico-city-mexico-33f570f5.html Also, with 7 studio albums under their belt, and in the prime of their lives, they're still crapping out only an 18 song set for arguably their biggest tour ever? On Reddit, somebody brought up The Cure as a comparison: Robert Smith is 56 years old, but they're still doing over 40 songs at their big shows. http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/the-cure/2014/eventim-apollo-london-england-7bcd065c.html Hedrigall fucked around with this message at 12:05 on Nov 18, 2015 |
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Reiterating that Muse played their acapella showstopper "Drones" twice in the one concert last night.
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So, not only do they suck at making music now, they're starting to suck at their live shows? Good work Muse.
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Giant ballons confirmed! I don't need anything else to be happy. I also like the one two punch with Mercy and Cydonia at the end. And I'm fine with a setlist that's around 20 songs. Never got the longing for 3 hours+ sets even from my favorite bands. A good 90 minute set with that kind of production design is okay IMO. Drones twice however is not. Once maybe, but not really. Twice is a crime.
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Nov 18, 2015 13:01
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Crap that's a bad setlist Muse :/
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Apocalypse Please is a great choice though. I'd never have guessed them picking it.
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the Psycho setlists were so good too. I know it's still going to be a blast when I see them in Portland but man.
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