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PUGGERNAUT: Nov 14, 2013; I AM INCREDIBLY BORING AND SHOULD STOP TALKING ABOUT FOOD IN THE POLITICS THREAD

Joementum posted:

Hot Take of the day:

But... this doesn't make sense... refugees already go through an extensive vetting process? Why is no one calling out the politicians and reporters implying that there's no screening whatsoever?

# ? Nov 19, 2015 02:20

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logikv9: Mar 5, 2009; Ham Wrangler

PUGGERNAUT posted:

But... this doesn't make sense... refugees already go through an extensive vetting process? Why is no one calling out the politicians and reporters implying that there's no screening whatsoever?

Because the only question that's missing on the vetting form is "Is brown Y/N"

Guess which choice leads to automatic denial.

# ? Nov 19, 2015 02:22

Spite: Jul 27, 2001; Small chance of that...

If only we'd checked if he were black before we let him be president....

# ? Nov 19, 2015 02:23

seiferguy: Jun 9, 2005; FLAWED
INTUITION; Toilet Rascal

Oh, so Texas narrowly rejected allowing K12 textbooks to be fact checked by academics: http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Education/2015/1118/Texas-narrowly-rejects-allowing-academics-to-fact-check-public-school-textbooks

"Rather than allowing academics to intervene, the board voted unanimously to tweak its current system, mandating that review panels be made up of "at least a majority" of people with "sufficient content expertise and experience" as determined by the Texas education commissioner."

More Civil War revisionist history :thumbsup:

# ? Nov 19, 2015 02:25

Rhesus Pieces: Jun 27, 2005

Remember, "properly vetted" just means getting enough dirt on someone to disqualify them from voting, running for office, or in this case preventing them from entering the country.

In other words, "the game lasts until I win."

# ? Nov 19, 2015 02:32

Raskolnikov38: Mar 3, 2007; We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Joementum posted:

I'd say we've reached Peak Friedman, but maybe not. The next six columns are going to be crucial.

Does he talk to a taxi driver who is suspiciously well informed on world events?

# ? Nov 19, 2015 02:33

Ferdinand the Bull: Jul 30, 2006

Don't know if this has been posted in the thread yet.

This video totally sums up the dim glory that is Trump https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYoOPgeTMQc

# ? Nov 19, 2015 02:39

Joementum: May 23, 2004; jesus christ

Ferdinand the Bull posted:

Don't know if this has been posted in the thread yet.

This video totally sums up the dim glory that is Trump https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYoOPgeTMQc

Still the best roast of Trump:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8TwRmX6zs4

# ? Nov 19, 2015 02:41

Locobono: Nov 6, 2003; Pump Action

seiferguy posted:

Oh, so Texas narrowly rejected allowing K12 textbooks to be fact checked by academics: http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Education/2015/1118/Texas-narrowly-rejects-allowing-academics-to-fact-check-public-school-textbooks

"Rather than allowing academics to intervene, the board voted unanimously to tweak its current system, mandating that review panels be made up of "at least a majority" of people with "sufficient content expertise and experience" as determined by the Texas education commissioner."

More Civil War revisionist history

It'd be funnier if Texas schoolbook content didn't end up everywhere else because of their population. But I'm all for letting states invent their own revisionist histories; it'll make arguments with conservatives entertaining instead of just frustrating and sad.

# ? Nov 19, 2015 02:46

Solkanar512: Dec 28, 2006; by the sex ghost

tsa posted:

Surprisingly enough they really aren't that excited about handing the election to the R's on a silver platter. Like if the dems go full speed ahead on accepting refugees and something happens don't even bother holding an election.

This was stupid the first time you said it and it's still stupid now. France is taking on three times as many refugees as we are and they were the ones attacked.

Too many of us have family members who came here to escape war. To support shutting the door on them for political expediency is incredibly repugnant.

# ? Nov 19, 2015 02:50

berzerker: Aug 18, 2004; "If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all."

Locobono posted:

It'd be funnier if Texas schoolbook content didn't end up everywhere else because of their population. But I'm all for letting states invent their own revisionist histories; it'll make arguments with conservatives entertaining instead of just frustrating and sad.

They're don't very much anymore, as often as that is repeated. Publishers can afford to tweak content for local markets a lot easier today than they could 15 years ago, with advances in digital publishing.

# ? Nov 19, 2015 02:52

Absurd Alhazred: Mar 27, 2010; by Athanatos

Joementum posted:

Still the best roast of Trump:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8TwRmX6zs4

Trump roast.

# ? Nov 19, 2015 02:57

Fuckt Tupp: Apr 19, 2007; Science

PUGGERNAUT posted:

But... this doesn't make sense... refugees already go through an extensive vetting process? Why is no one calling out the politicians and reporters implying that there's no screening whatsoever?

Neither the media nor politicians are eager to let facts get in the way of them pandering to terrified bigots.

# ? Nov 19, 2015 03:00

vseslav.botkin: Feb 18, 2007; Professor

https://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2015/11/18/if-helping-migrants-is-a-moral-imperative-what-about-non-migrants-from-the-same-countries/

Just asking questions, guys.

# ? Nov 19, 2015 03:10

Rhesus Pieces: Jun 27, 2005

As far as we know none of the attackers were actually Syrian refugees, correct? Has anyone in the public square actually pointed this out to people? Or are we just going to let this whole "ISIS is in Syria therefore all Syrians are in ISIS" nonsense continue until we have violence and calls for mass deportations?

# ? Nov 19, 2015 03:13

Grundulum: Feb 28, 2006

Rhesus Pieces posted:

As far as we know none of the attackers were actually Syrian refugees, correct? Has anyone in the public square actually pointed this out to people? Or are we just going to let this whole "ISIS is in Syria therefore all Syrians are in ISIS" nonsense continue until we have violence and calls for mass deportations?

This doesn't matter. It's one of the best current examples of "reality has a liberal bias".

# ? Nov 19, 2015 03:17

Combed Thunderclap: Jan 4, 2011

vseslav.botkin posted:

https://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2015/11/18/if-helping-migrants-is-a-moral-imperative-what-about-non-migrants-from-the-same-countries/

Just asking questions, guys.

So stupid, refugees get resettled all the time from outside their receiving state.

# ? Nov 19, 2015 03:18

Combed Thunderclap: Jan 4, 2011

Rhesus Pieces posted:

As far as we know none of the attackers were actually Syrian refugees, correct? Has anyone in the public square actually pointed this out to people? Or are we just going to let this whole "ISIS is in Syria therefore all Syrians are in ISIS" nonsense continue until we have violence and calls for mass deportations?

Yes. Yes. And maybe, but one can hope.

We have Chris Christie literally saying he won't admit orphan children, who can pose no possible threat to anyone. This has nothing to do with national security and everything to do with perceptions of societal security.

Which is just a fancy way of saying they're literally racist.

# ? Nov 19, 2015 03:24

Mitt Romney: Nov 9, 2005; dumb and bad

Joementum posted:

Still the best roast of Trump:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8TwRmX6zs4

This is the best for it's quality and the fact that Obama had just ordered the Bin Laden operation several hours before.

# ? Nov 19, 2015 03:27

ComradeCosmobot: Dec 4, 2004; USPOL July

PUGGERNAUT posted:

Why is no one calling out the politicians and reporters implying that there's no screening whatsoever?

They are. Quite a bit. It's just that no one wants to listen to them because (choose one or more): Obama is a bad president whose opinions are always wrong, Obama is a liar so he must be lying about the vetting process being tough, Obama is a secret Muslim who loves terrorists, less than 100% success in identifying future terrorists is an unacceptably low success rate and we must study further, etc.

# ? Nov 19, 2015 03:28

Silver Nitrate: Oct 17, 2005; WHAT

In Minneapolis news: Police attempted to clear protesters from the precinct and succeeded in having three times as many people show up. At some point there was pepper spray and rubber bullets but the police backed off.

While being interviewed by a livestreamer, one of the local news reporters was pepper sprayed by police through a chain link fence. MPD immediately put out a tweet saying that the protesters are pepper spraying themselves.

Seems to be at a really tense stalemate.

Edit: now the police are poking protesters with a stick through the chain link fence.

# ? Nov 19, 2015 03:45

fishmech: Jul 16, 2006; by VideoGames; Salad Prong

Has anyone brought this up today? AMA Votes for Ban on Prescription Drug Advertising

quote:

The country's largest doctors group has voted for a ban on direct-to-consumer advertising of prescription drugs and medical devices.

The American Medical Association said Tuesday at a meeting in Atlanta that such ads on television and radio and in magazines drive a demand for expensive pills and medicines when less costly generic drugs are just as effective.

"Today's vote in support of an advertising ban reflects concerns among physicians about the negative impact of commercially driven promotions and the role that marketing costs play in fueling escalating drug prices," said AMA board chair-elect Patrice Harris. "Direct-to-consumer advertising also inflates demand for new and more expensive drugs, even when these drugs may not be appropriate."

The AMA said the United States and New Zealand are the only two countries that promote drugs directly to patients.

It said U.S. drug companies spend $4.5 billion a year selling their products. But doctors say the cost of promoting the medicines and treatments can make prescriptions too expensive overall and puts patient health at risk.

The AMA is recommending that the federal government limit what it calls anti-competitive behavior by large pharmaceutical houses that doctors say reduces choice and limits much cheaper but still highly effective generic drugs from reaching the market.

Not sure how much force they really have to twist the drug companies' arms, but this could turn out really well

# ? Nov 19, 2015 03:47

Silver Nitrate: Oct 17, 2005; WHAT

Police cleared the area in front of the contested chain link fence and now there are a bunch of bicycle cops with their bikes making a wall. Probably a good de-escalation move because bring out out the riot gear would not go well.

Edit: just kidding the riot gear guys snuck out being them.

# ? Nov 19, 2015 03:51

Absurd Alhazred: Mar 27, 2010; by Athanatos

fishmech posted:

Has anyone brought this up today? AMA Votes for Ban on Prescription Drug Advertising

Not sure how much force they really have to twist the drug companies' arms, but this could turn out really well

About time.

# ? Nov 19, 2015 03:52

My Imaginary GF: Jul 17, 2005; by R. Guyovich

Silver Nitrate posted:

Police cleared the area in front of the contested chain link fence and now there are a bunch of bicycle cops with their bikes making a wall. Probably a good de-escalation move because bring out out the riot gear would not go well.

Edit: just kidding the riot gear guys snuck out being them.

Is this in Minneapolis?

# ? Nov 19, 2015 03:54

Epic High Five: Jun 5, 2004

Silver Nitrate posted:

Police cleared the area in front of the contested chain link fence and now there are a bunch of bicycle cops with their bikes making a wall. Probably a good de-escalation move because bring out out the riot gear would not go well.

Edit: just kidding the riot gear guys snuck out being them.

What is it called when you bring out the riot gear to quell a riot that began because the riot gear came out

I mean aside from silent, helpless despair

# ? Nov 19, 2015 03:54

My Imaginary GF: Jul 17, 2005; by R. Guyovich

Epic High Five posted:

What is it called when you bring out the riot gear to quell a riot that began because the riot gear came out

Proactive policing

# ? Nov 19, 2015 03:58

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Absurd Alhazred posted:

About time.

Seriously. Are we going to beat New Zealand to banning prescription drug ads?

# ? Nov 19, 2015 03:58

Shifty Pony: Dec 28, 2004; Up ta somethin'

Does anyone else have trouble seeing Joementum's posts sometimes? For some reason twimg.com images aren't loading even if I disable all the adblocking extensions and whatnot.

# ? Nov 19, 2015 04:02

Silver Nitrate: Oct 17, 2005; WHAT

My Imaginary GF posted:

Is this in Minneapolis?

Yeah, the riot gear guys went back inside. Guess they didn't like how the crowd reacted to them. Still pretty tense.

# ? Nov 19, 2015 04:07

Fuck You And Diebold: Sep 15, 2004; by Athanatos

My Imaginary GF posted:

Is this in Minneapolis?

Yeah

Fuck You And Diebold fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Nov 19, 2015

# ? Nov 19, 2015 04:08

Joementum: May 23, 2004; jesus christ

Shifty Pony posted:

Does anyone else have trouble seeing Joementum's posts sometimes? For some reason twimg.com images aren't loading even if I disable all the adblocking extensions and whatnot.

It's the new "security" feature in Firefox. Click the shield to the right of the back button.

# ? Nov 19, 2015 04:08

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Noted liberal organization the CATO Institute thinks refugees aren't a threat:
http://www.cato.org/blog/syrian-refugees-dont-pose-serious-security-threat

Shifty Pony posted:

Does anyone else have trouble seeing Joementum's posts sometimes? For some reason twimg.com images aren't loading even if I disable all the adblocking extensions and whatnot.

I run in to the same issue with a few other sites when using Firefox. It doesn't make any sense and it was really annoying when it up and decided to block imgur entirely one day.

# ? Nov 19, 2015 04:22

Shifty Pony: Dec 28, 2004; Up ta somethin'

Joementum posted:

It's the new "security" feature in Firefox. Click the shield to the right of the back button.

Ah that did it. Really annoying. I guess the tracking prevention thought the images were web bugs.

# ? Nov 19, 2015 04:23

Grouchio: Aug 31, 2014

Should I be concerned over the ISIS threat video to NYC?

# ? Nov 19, 2015 04:24

Greatbacon: Apr 9, 2012; by Pragmatica

Grouchio posted:

Should I be concerned over the ISIS threat video to NYC?

I would be more worried about riding in a car or dieing of a heart attack.

# ? Nov 19, 2015 04:27

greatn: Nov 15, 2006; by Lowtax

People should give terrorist videos the same treatment they gave Downfall.

# ? Nov 19, 2015 04:29

Joementum: May 23, 2004; jesus christ

Grouchio posted:

Should I be concerned over the ISIS threat video to NYC?

# ? Nov 19, 2015 04:29

My Imaginary GF: Jul 17, 2005; by R. Guyovich

Silver Nitrate posted:

Yeah, the riot gear guys went back inside. Guess they didn't like how the crowd reacted to them. Still pretty tense.

Its too gently caress'n cold out, people. Are ya gonna riot in a blizzard? This ain't DQ!

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zoux: Apr 28, 2006

CNN's coverage of this is bordering on hedonism. Anchors are going to start loving each other on air while shrieking a list of cities ISIS has tweeted about.

# ? Nov 19, 2015 04:32

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