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hobbesmaster posted:You don't need to "unskew" the polls right now to say that Trump looks like a lot of candidates that polled quite high in November/December but still crashed and burned either before voting started or after IA/NH. Except those candidates didn't say the poo poo Trump did and not only walk away unscathed but gain ground in polling. They love him because he doesn't give a drat how wrong or hosed up his talk is, he wills that poo poo into existence. Break NAFTA, levy tariffs against Mexican imports, and build/staff a 1,933-mile long border wall with the revenue? Might as well go full  and make plans for Moonbase Zoo. Decimate revenue with a busted-rear end tax plan but somehow rebuild the VA and make some kind of national health system? He's huffing Arthur  's farts. Everything he's got is pure crazytalk, but it's crazytalk with an unshakeable conviction that makes the old racist biddies of the GOP base sploosh in their rascals so hard it electrocutes them. It makes the leatherfaced old harpies from suburban Ohio in Arizona shriek so loudly with joy that it shatters their cabinet full of Kinkade collectible dinner plates. It has next to nothing to do with what he's saying and nearly everything to do with how he's saying it. He's the unconstrained, unrebuffed avatar of reaganhideen conservative ideology. Imagine Weird Science, except it's those two grouchy theater muppets at a computer designing the perfect candidate and what comes strutting out of the closet is 2016 election Trump. He's the counterfactual fantasy all of history's sick bastards dream about, the Kaiser who didn't surrender on the cusp of victory in 1918, the Hirohito who fought to the last, the Nixon who didn't sign the Paris peace accord and the Ford who sent troops back in. They finally have a way of making lies into truth through sheer volume and they're going to ride that white whale straight to hell.
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DemeaninDemon posted:He won't be the president. People were saying that he wouldn't be the nominee over the summer, and here we are, with him quite possibly having not merely a non-zero, but perhaps even a double-digit probability of getting the nomination. And that probability seems to still be increasing, little by little, every day he stays in the race. I guess what I'm saying is... ＤＥＨＵＭＡＮＩＺＥ ＹＯＵＲＳＥＬＦ ＡＮＤ ＦＡＣＥ ＴＯ ＢＬＯＯＤＳＨＥＤ 
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Nov 20, 2015 06:46
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tsa posted:Not really a surprise, for me at least. If they push the issue and he vetos the bill and something happens it's the rights election to lose. Wait, what?
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Nov 20, 2015 07:05
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Well President Trump scares the poo poo out of me marginally less than President Cruz, so he's got that going for him. Though the idea of them being running mates legitimately terrifies me.
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Nov 20, 2015 07:06
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Lotka Volterra posted:Wait, what? We let in Refugees One of the refugees is a actual terrorist and with you being able to buy guns from vending machines he shoots people Trump is elected Emperor for life
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Nov 20, 2015 07:06
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Hollismason posted:We let in Refugees I'm surprised that the GOP hasn't made hay out of the Boston bombing given that they were Chechen asylees (a form of refugees). https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...187f_story.html At the time of the Boston bombing there were less than 200 Chechen immigrants in the US: http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/04/there-are-almost-no-chechens-in-the-united-states-heres-why/275195/ and two of them attacked.
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Nov 20, 2015 07:12
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Veryslightlymad posted:Late, but Hilarious. They're one of the worst run of all the major healthcare companies, and their CEO makes about 3 times as much as his competitors. (About 60million v 20million per year). I'd grease up the ol' guillotine but I'm too busy rolling my eyes and making the jerkoff motion. Could have used this info earlier. Already renewed back with United. gently caress how do I healthcare. Am I really suppose to compare 100 page PDFs for different companies?
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Nov 20, 2015 07:14
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Not to dehumanize Mexican immigrants, but if we have negative migration of a group that handle some really poo poo jobs, there must be something seriously wrong with this country.
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Nov 20, 2015 07:15
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Hollismason posted:We let in Refugees Not Emperor. The newly created title of Lord President.
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Nov 20, 2015 07:18
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PhazonLink posted:Am I really suppose to compare 100 page PDFs for different companies? It's like making a character build and requiring system mastery. For your life.
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Nov 20, 2015 07:23
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JT Jag posted:The Jaguars winning last week is probably the only thing that kept me from going into a massive depressive spiral. Hopefully the facade can continue tonight!
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Nov 20, 2015 07:27
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PhazonLink posted:Could have used this info earlier. Already renewed back with United. gently caress how do I healthcare. Am I really suppose to compare 100 page PDFs for different companies? The Glorious Free Market at work. Don't know as much about healthcare as the accountants that spend their entire professional lives figuring this stuff out? Don't understand it as much as the lawyers who spent years fine tuning every single last word of the agreement to screw you as hard as possible? Can't afford to hire your own accountants and lawyers? Shoulda bootstrapped yourself into being born richer, better luck next time.
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Nov 20, 2015 07:50
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How are the current general election polls looking for a prospective Hillary vs Trump race? Because Trump's popularity and success based on literal fascist principles is making me want to literally drink myself to death.
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Nov 20, 2015 08:14
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Hollismason posted:Link? I don't what subforum that is http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3737765 Join us!
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:How are the current general election polls looking for a prospective Hillary vs Trump race? Because Trump's popularity and success based on literal fascist principles is making me want to literally drink myself to death. RCP average has Clinton up by 4.5: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html He's the nomination frontrunner, but Trump is still the worst Republican for the general. Lycus fucked around with this message at 08:23 on Nov 20, 2015 |
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Nov 20, 2015 08:20
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:How are the current general election polls looking for a prospective Hillary vs Trump race? Because Trump's popularity and success based on literal fascist principles is making me want to literally drink myself to death. Hillary would crush him.
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Nov 20, 2015 08:22
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Lycus posted:RCP average has Clinton up by 4.5: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html Do people figure that when Bernie most likely dies out Hillary will gain most of his supporters' enthusiasm and support, bringing her number higher? I could imagine that a lot of Bernie supporters don't care to think about supporting Clinton at all at the moment but would do so when push comes to shove.
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Nov 20, 2015 08:23
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Do people figure that when Bernie most likely dies out Hillary will gain most of his supporters' enthusiasm and support, bringing her number higher? I could imagine that a lot of Bernie supporters don't care to think about supporting Clinton at all at the moment but would do so when push comes to shove. Post-nomination consolidation would happen to both sides.
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Nov 20, 2015 08:27
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Mitt Romney posted:Post-nomination consolidation would happen to both sides. But who stands to gain most from that? Would the remaining Jeb!, Rubio, and other establishment supporters who aren't completely psychotic really go for Trump or just stay home and start dreaming of 2020? Not to mention any conservative Latinos who I can't imagine ever voting for him.
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Nov 20, 2015 08:29
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Nah, they will be thinking of 2018 midterms and win those over and over again.
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Nov 20, 2015 08:34
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I'm not even surprised that trump and the republicans can find support for the refugee bill and this talk of a 'registry' of Muslims in America, although to be honest the NSA probably has a multitude of files on this topic. But it shows the effect that Hollywood has done decades of propagation to mentally prepare the voting public for this kind of thing without any significant retort and make them accept it piece by piece. So I'm not surprised people are willing to accept this insanity. I just hope reasonable people win the day. Al-Saqr fucked around with this message at 08:46 on Nov 20, 2015 |
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Nov 20, 2015 08:42
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:But who stands to gain most from that? Would the remaining Jeb!, Rubio, and other establishment supporters who aren't completely psychotic really go for Trump or just stay home and start dreaming of 2020? Not to mention any conservative Latinos who I can't imagine ever voting for him. I think both sides would gain equally from supporter consolidation but Trump is a hugely flawed general election candidate. If he won the nomination I think we might see a wave election approaching 8%+ giving the senate and house back to the Democratic party.
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Nov 20, 2015 08:43
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I don't really buy into the idea that the Republicans don't care about winning the presidency. Even if they control the majority of the states and retain the Senate they'll lose SCOTUS, 12 years of federal judicial appointments. and 12 years of executive branching. Even if nationally they would be still fine and strong I think it would trigger a serious crisis within the party. Especially considering the emotional reaction of a Hillary presidency. If Trump is the nominee  some big money might jump ship but Trump would still have enough of a backing to run a world class campaign. Hillary doesn't need more money anyways, the presidential election is already saturated. Trump would not lose by more than 5, imo.
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Nov 20, 2015 08:45
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Mitt Romney posted:I think both sides would gain equally from supporter consolidation but Trump is a hugely flawed general election candidate. If he won the nomination I think we might see a wave election approaching 8%+ giving the senate and house back to the Democratic party. That's way too optimistic for me.
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Nov 20, 2015 08:45
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I don't know what's going on in this thread but I bet its cool and hip and I want to be "with it" so now I'm posting here too. Vote green party!
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Nov 20, 2015 08:46
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Matoi Ryuko posted:I don't know what's going on in this thread but I bet its cool and hip and I want to be "with it" so now I'm posting here too. We're not cool and hip in this thread. We're preparing for a hard life in fascist America under Lord President Trump.
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Nov 20, 2015 08:48
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Lycus posted:We're not cool and hip in this thread. We're preparing for a hard life in fascist America under Lord President Trump. Isn't every president is just a businessman at heart? What's the big deal with this guy?
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Nov 20, 2015 08:50
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It's not like a president is going to be any less corrupt than every other one there's ever been so I don't really get it anymore. 
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Nov 20, 2015 08:51
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Matoi Ryuko posted:It's not like a president is going to be any less corrupt than every other one there's ever been so I don't really get it anymore. You poor innocent summer child.
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Nov 20, 2015 08:56
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Matoi Ryuko posted:It's not like a president is going to be any less corrupt than every other one there's ever been so I don't really get it anymore. I hope you're like 17 years old.
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Nov 20, 2015 08:57
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I hope you're like 17 years old. No I'm old and stuff.
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Nov 20, 2015 08:58
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Do you guys vote?
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Nov 20, 2015 08:58
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Voting is for sad losers So, yeah. Even when it's just me and a bus load of retirees at the polling place
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Nov 20, 2015 08:59
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A Bag of Milk posted:Anyone else sometimes think too hard about everyone taking Trump seriously...Like, letting the true madness and derangement of our reality wash over you in waves? A better question is, do I ever not?
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Nov 20, 2015 08:59
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I want to sell "I Voted"-style merchandise outside of polling places.
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Nov 20, 2015 09:00
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I'm not worried about corruption. I'm worried about the internment camps for refugees, databases for muslims, and
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Nov 20, 2015 09:01
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This has already been commented on multiple times, but it can't be overstated:  What the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck? What country do I live in anymore? Is this real life?Jesus loving Christ. 
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Nov 20, 2015 09:02
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I'm not worried about those things. I'm too busy for that...maybe you should get a hobby.
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Unfortunately, my hobby is caring a lot about politics. I'd probably be happier carving poo poo out of wood or whatever, but here I am.
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Matoi Ryuko posted:I'm not worried about those things. I'm too busy for that...maybe you should get a hobby. First they came for the Unions, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a member. Then they came for the RINOs, and I did not speak out— Because it was fun to watch them go at each other. Then they came for the Muslims, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Muslim. Then they came for the animes—and there was no one left to speak for me.
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