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Sigma-X posted:They are really, really concerned about making the deck values uneven, because it causes huge issues with wholesale sales. Before the full spoilers I called my LGS to preorder the full set of five, but they weren't sure how much stock they were getting, so I had to wait. Then I saw the full spoiler and I couldn't summon any interest at all in buying even a single one of those decks. I feel like I saved $150. Is this what it's like when you don't buy cards? It feels good. Does anyone read this thread who spends no money on Magic? How good does it feel?
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Recess Rapist posted:Before the full spoilers I called my LGS to preorder the full set of five, but they weren't sure how much stock they were getting, so I had to wait. Yes and no. I quit Magic (again) about 18 months ago and while I'm clearly off the wagon, I'm at the point where I only acquire cards for my Peasant Cube, which are super super cheap. It feels pretty good.
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Rimusutera posted:Things WotC would do if they cared about the health of the game How did you manage to perfectly mix up "dual" and "duel"?
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Twiddy posted:You'd think the easier solution would be having one guaranteed money reprint per expansion to help equalize any price disparity that would come from an unbalance in the original cards, but what do I know. I think this is the easy solution on the surface, but finding 5 cards that are equal in street value, that will depreciate due to the reprinting evenly and have even desire across the player base would require a tremendous amount of data to even start making reasonable guesses, and those guesses wouldn't have a high certainty. In the Vindicate case - Vindicate and Abrupt Decay are both $15 cards, and would fit into the current design of the decks. But Vindicate has much less demand and much less supply, which leads to its $15, whereas Abrupt Decay has much more demand and supply, so reprinting both of them would provide an imbalance despite the fact that they're similar cards in power level with similar prices. I'm reading the latest M-Files: http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/latest-developments/m-files-original-zendikar-block-2015-11-20 Amulet of Vigor's discussion is really useful in illustrating how design uses Psychographics - The designers are very conflicted on whether this card is good/bad/etc, and they've done enough of these to know that when a card polls like that, it has Johnny appeal. This is why the psychographics exist - to ensure that design is building for people that aren't just themselves but instead a wider audience. e: haha they called out the "nonbo" with Eldrazi Conscription because you don't get the annihilator trigger the first time you attack. Sigma-X fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Nov 20, 2015 |
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Twiddy posted:You'd think the easier solution would be having one guaranteed money reprint per expansion to help equalize any price disparity that would come from an unbalance in the original cards, but what do I know. I was talking about this with a few people, including our LGS owner, when the last set came out and it had like 2 good cards. Red and white were sold out and none of the others had sold. They should have one decent reprint (Wurmcoil) and one cool, potentially legacy playable card (Containment Priest, Dualcaster) in each set. That avoids the True-Name issue while still making sure people want to buy them. Last year had Wurmcoil, Containment Priest and basically nothing else. This year has... a potential cube card maybe?
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Recess Rapist posted:Before the full spoilers I called my LGS to preorder the full set of five, but they weren't sure how much stock they were getting, so I had to wait. I don't spend money on magic. I pretty much only play casually because the magic "community" is a nightmare, so I just proxy everything since no one cares. It feels pretty great to play vintage without spending money, FYI.
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GeneX posted:I pretty much only play casually because the magic "community" is a nightmare, so I just proxy everything since no one cares. I don't know who you're playing with but I've hardly had any trouble with anyone in 20+ years. There's a few level 2 judges who come to our store occasionally who are miserable people to play with but that's about it. Aside from that and a few people whining about my playing a little slower than normal in my first few legacy tournaments (Brainstorm is a hard card to resolve!) it's been fine. GeneX posted:It feels pretty great to play vintage without spending money, FYI. I can tell you that it feels even better to own the cards.
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Recess Rapist posted:Before the full spoilers I called my LGS to preorder the full set of five, but they weren't sure how much stock they were getting, so I had to wait. You could buy the Actual Good Cards from the Commander 2015 set and still save about half a Commander 2015 deck. The commanders themselves are cheap as gently caress, and the only cards worth noting are honestly the (blue and black, maybe white) Confluences, Command Beacon, and Blade of Selves. Count Bleck fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Nov 20, 2015 |
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Kraus posted:How did you manage to perfectly mix up "dual" and "duel"? I just woke up when I typed that.
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suicidesteve posted:I don't know who you're playing with but I've hardly had any trouble with anyone in 20+ years. There's a few level 2 judges who come to our store occasionally who are miserable people to play with but that's about it. Aside from that and a few people whining about my playing a little slower than normal in my first few legacy tournaments (Brainstorm is a hard card to resolve!) it's been fine. I only wish your experience was everyone's. It wasn't mine. quote:I can tell you that it feels even better to own the cards. I'm sure.
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Recess Rapist posted:I feel like I saved $150. Is this what it's like when you don't buy cards? It feels good. Does anyone read this thread who spends no money on Magic? How good does it feel?
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Nov 20, 2015 22:01
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Is disconnecting with a lethal spell on the stack a salty move? Opponent cheerfully wished me good luck and then left before Rolling Thunder resolved.
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Nov 20, 2015 22:30
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Recess Rapist posted:Is disconnecting with a lethal spell on the stack a salty move? Opponent cheerfully wished me good luck and then left before Rolling Thunder resolved. Not only is it salty and hilarious, it's also bannable. Submit a ticket to support and get them a time out to either stop them from pulling that kind of crap again, or hopefully soliciting a funny and angry tirade from them.
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Nov 20, 2015 22:33
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Recess Rapist posted:Is disconnecting with a lethal spell on the stack a salty move? Opponent cheerfully wished me good luck and then left before Rolling Thunder resolved. scooping when you've lost isn't badmanners. edit; wait, what do you mean by disconnected here?
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Nov 20, 2015 22:33
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Rimusutera posted:scooping when you've lost isn't badmanners. Disconnecting from modo entirely rather than conceding. I think their clock continues until they pass priority, so the round goes to time.
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Cactrot posted:Disconnecting from modo entirely rather than conceding. I think their clock continues until they pass priority, so the round goes to time. Um you forfeit after 10 minutes of inactivity iirc. The next level is to come back after 9 minutes, pass priority, and then hope your opponent went afk.
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Cactrot posted:Disconnecting from modo entirely rather than conceding. I think their clock continues until they pass priority, so the round goes to time. If you do nothing for 10 minutes you auto-lose the match.
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Nov 20, 2015 22:52
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Rimusutera posted:scooping when you've lost isn't badmanners. It is bad manners making me wait for the timeout instead of just allowing me to win when I won? Yes. I cast Rolling Thunder for lethal, he says gg etc, disconnects before it resolves. Edit: And I drew no swamps in my final so it's not like I'm stuck playing when I have somewhere to go. Bottom line here is you can be as rude as you like online and nothing of consequence will stem from it ever. Edit2: I actually lost a quick 0-2 to Quarantine Field, A Pretty Good Card. Recess Rapist fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Nov 20, 2015 |
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Entropic posted:If you do nothing for 10 minutes you auto-lose the match. Yeah that still sounds lovely to do.
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Rimusutera posted:Yeah that still sounds lovely to do. It is.
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I could get 4 jaces right now for 60 bones a piece. But the question is, should i?
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Rimusutera posted:Things WotC would do if they cared about the health of the game They reprinted Karmic Justice and Black Market in the B/W deck.  I actually needed those cards. And I hope 10 of 20 expeditions in OGW are true duals. That would be hilarious.
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Recess Rapist posted:Before the full spoilers I called my LGS to preorder the full set of five, but they weren't sure how much stock they were getting, so I had to wait. As Ben Franklin once said, "A Standard season unplayed is a thousand bucks earned."
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vandalism posted:I could get 4 jaces right now for 60 bones a piece. But the question is, should i? are you asking us if you should spend $240 on some really really cool cardboard? the answer is yes.
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JerryLee posted:As Ben Franklin once said, "A Standard season unplayed is a thousand bucks earned." But as LSV once said "Join another draft."
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Recess Rapist posted:I feel like I saved $150. Is this what it's like when you don't buy cards? It feels good. Does anyone read this thread who spends no money on Magic? How good does it feel?  i spend or trade magic for board games instead. I actually just got this sweet eurogame called Orleans! It almost got the Kennerspiel des Jahres this year. I think the only money I spend on magic now is a $15 draft and $5 constructed at the beginning of every semester and just ride the store credit until the end.
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Chill la Chill posted:
So do you just like, play RDW at the beginning of every standard in every event you can attend and make oodles or
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Hey guys, Magic singles or boosters or whatever make nice xmas gifts that you could receive from an anonymous goon in the mail, if you participate in this year's Trad Games Secret Santa thread! You also get to send a present secretly to some other TG goon, who probably doesn't want Magic cards but maybe they do! It will be a random chance. Check it out, it's fun. Posted with Ettin's permission.
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Recess Rapist posted:I feel like I saved $150. Is this what it's like when you don't buy cards? It feels good. Does anyone read this thread who spends no money on Magic? How good does it feel? This is strictly my preference, but I feel mtg was best for me when it was myself and 3 others making goofy terrible decks out of a camp counselors old rear end card collection of Craw Wurms and Frozen Shades. Limited pools, basically. I imagine pre-web you had your local car shop or friends to get cards from. If a card from a set didn't exist between the two, you were poo poo out of luck. Nowadays if you want to play a deck, $20 and a few google searches and boom you've got that deck. So, instead of spending that $20, I just proxy cards. Draw up a goofy picture for it, print it out, put it over some generic lands, and play it in a sleeve. I don't like to play super competitive, nor do I just proxy out P9 so most folks I play with don't seem to mind. Granted, between me drawing the card up, printing it, and cutting it up, I might be spending $20 worth of effort, but it still feels more like I earned the deck than just going on some online market for it or playing the booster lottery. Feel's good.
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I've probably spent around 1500 in the past 4 months since coming back and honestly it feels pretty drat good to just drop 400 on cards whenever I want and remembering back to when I had to beg my dad to give me 10 bucks to buy a clockwork avian https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RubBzkZzpUA 
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Is the GP stream starting at round 3? Pretty lame, I wanted to catch some early games.
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Well, a shitlord-filled semi-local store/minor online retailer Legitmtg.com, formerly known as The Lotus Guardian before they bought the brand from the previous owner, got burgled of all the cards in its display case a few days ago. police blotter posted:• Approximately 100,000 Magic The Gathering cards worth $50,000 were reported stolen in a Sunday burglary at Legit MTG, 527 Emory Drive. https://twitter.com/LegitMTG/status/666304369365749760 I wouldn't pity them much, they sell played (not lightly played) cards as near mint online, had been broken into previously and never got an alarm or camera system, and have a local reputation of sanctioning tournaments during the day in the middle of the week that somehow manage to get enough people to keep up their store status even though you can't fit 32 people in the store at once.
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KidDynamite posted:Is the GP stream starting at round 3? Pretty lame, I wanted to catch some early games. What format is this GP? I'm not in a position to check.
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KidDynamite posted:Is the GP stream starting at round 3? Pretty lame, I wanted to catch some early games. Don't they always do that? You can't just put random people on camera and anyone notable has byes for those rounds.
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Angry Grimace posted:You can't just put random people on camera Why not? I mean certainly it would be less interesting to most of the audience but surely it's better than dead air?
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JerryLee posted:Why not? I mean certainly it would be less interesting to most of the audience but surely it's better than dead air? Because they like to present big tournaments as high-level events, not people forgetting how to sequence the Splinter Twin combo.
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Angry Grimace posted:Because they like to present big tournaments as high-level events, not people forgetting how to sequence the Splinter Twin combo. It's a Grand Prix, not a pro tour. Yeah, it's "high level" but everyone knows there's a ton of randoms there. I mean, I see what you're saying and this is something we can reasonably disagree on, but I'm just not buying that having randoms on camera would irreparably damage the brand or something.
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Angry Grimace posted:Because they like to present big tournaments as high-level events, not people forgetting how to sequence the Splinter Twin combo. ChannelFireball didn't have any issues showing all the rounds, and that was Legacy. There's, what, 2500 people there? Can't they find 2-3 folks who aren't going to forget their Splinter Twin sequence or something?
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Serperoth posted:ChannelFireball didn't have any issues showing all the rounds, and that was Legacy. There's, what, 2500 people there? Can't they find 2-3 folks who aren't going to forget their Splinter Twin sequence or something? If CFB didn't show those first few rounds, we wouldn't have ever been blessed with WastelandKarl. Do the brave thing Wizards. Show us the jank.
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