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William Bear posted:Rubio: The bigger problem we have is our inability to find out where these places are Someone please troll Rubio with a pic of google map search results for mosques and shawarma restaurants. 
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That isn't what exactly what I heard but they are going to be relentless in attacking Trump in the next month. Ads, surrogates and etc. Although I suspect they could get what they want simply by asking Trump outrageous questions and let him take it from there. TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:It's strange Joe isn't constantly called out on this nonsense. Let's throw out all available data and instead use ~my feels~ What a poo poo post. You think Joementum is basically a Ron Paul voter because he thinks Nate Silver is correct? That doesn't even make sense.
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sharkbomb posted:Oh, look, another GOP operative making bank off of desperate Republican donors. The only thing notable about this particular effort is that they got a story into the WSJ to advertise that they're open for business. Time to cash in with those fat consultant fees! If you read between the lines it seems many GOP donors are actually wary about giving to this initiative as they don't want to get hit on the backlash. I can see Donald Trump taking to twitter and personally insulting every single donor to this pac, Iron Sheik style.
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How about they spend their efforts pushing Jeb out of the race and consolidating behind Rubio before it's too late? That would be too smart, right? This will anger the Trump.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:WASHINGTON—According to a poll released Friday by the Pew Research Center, 23 percent of Americans would vote for Jeb Bush in the presidential election if the Republican candidate was standing directly beside them in the voting booth. “We surveyed over a thousand likely voters and found that nearly a quarter were inclined to cast a ballot for Jeb Bush in 2016, provided the candidate was in the same cramped booth silently watching them,” said Pew spokesman Michael Barker, who noted that an additional 12 percent of respondents described themselves as “likely” Bush voters should the former Florida governor be waiting for them when they parted the booth’s curtains and then proceed to stand close enough behind them that they could feel his warm breath on their neck as they voted. “It has to be encouraging for the Bush campaign that almost four in 10 Americans would choose Jeb for president if he simply stood there occasionally clearing his throat, making eye contact, or repeatedly whimpering ‘please’ within the close confines of a balloting booth.” The poll also showed that the remaining 60 percent of U.S. voters would support Jeb Bush in the general election in the event he physically grabbed their hand and forcibly marked the ballot. lmao Jeb! even getting burned by pollster nerds
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Mitt Romney posted:That isn't what exactly what I heard but they are going to be relentless in attacking Trump in the next month. Ads, surrogates and etc. Although I suspect they could get what they want simply by asking Trump outrageous questions and let him take it from there. Yeah, just let Trump blow himself up. I think the more the attack Trump directly, the more it will just strengthen his position.
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Mitt Romney posted:What a poo poo post. You think Joementum is basically a Ron Paul voter because he thinks Nate Silver is correct? That doesn't even make sense.
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sharkbomb posted:Oh, look, another GOP operative making bank off of desperate Republican donors. The only thing notable about this particular effort is that they got a story into the WSJ to advertise that they're open for business. Time to cash in with those fat consultant fees! And yet another one who doesnt understand you can't shame or shock Trump out of the race. That's one of the most shocking things to me: that no one in the GOP undrstands the how and why of Trump kidnapping their base. You've spent almost 50 plus years doing nothing but getting these people to vote for crazy poo poo that doesn't affect them based on weird appeals and now you're flummoxed over someone else doing the same thing but with less shame? Maybe it's a form of denial over the fact that their own voters hate them almost as much as the boogeymen they create.
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Montasque posted:Yeah, just let Trump blow himself up. I think the more the attack Trump directly, the more it will just strengthen his position. We can see where sitting around, waiting for Trump to self-deport himself from the race has gotten us. Buying television attack ads is in the age of new media is equally laughable. Someone needs to show these dark money men a chart with "Money spent on TV ads so far" next to a chart of his polls numbers to realize they are worthless. I don't know if the Trump can be stumped at this point, but the best line of attack for the GOP would probably be to pressure all the losers to drop out, rally around Kasich or Rubio and hope that the establishment vote combined can out preform the 3 anti-establishment candidates. The other, more realistic approach is to hunker down, throw their support behind God Emperor Trump and pray he can cobble together 287 EV's in November.
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Real Republicans are trying to get the president to call it Radical Islamic Terrorism instead of jihadi terrorism or fundamentalist terrorism or whatever, but Trump is so far ahead of the curve he doesn't even say "radical."
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I can't believe how excited I am about the Jeb campaign!
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Si for Il Douche 2016!
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The GOP nomination process was pretty well doomed to create a candidate that was far too extreme this time around. We all just thought it would be more towards the end, rather than right at the beginning. Getting a little too extreme could be okay as long as the primary wasn't too far off, it won't hurt you in the general too bad. You can walk back the worst of it, while still winking to all the white voters. Most places are gerrymandered well enough that there's not many districts that are even up for grabs. But if someone came out swinging, It could destroy the party. A few months of light, dogwhistle, gentleman's immigrant-bashing is one thing, but an entire year of having one party scream about who hates minorities the hardest? It could be disastrous in ways that are simply unthinkable right now.
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sharkbomb posted:Oh, look, another GOP operative making bank off of desperate Republican donors. The only thing notable about this particular effort is that they got a story into the WSJ to advertise that they're open for business. Time to cash in with those fat consultant fees! Liberal millennials should be cashing in on this tactic to redistribute the wealth of the idle rich and paranoid. Sell your soul for 8-13 years and come out the other side having done a public good while enriching yourself. Run for local office as a hard right crazy motherfucker to siphon donations from Republicans who can win broader elections. Start 501(c)(4)s that ask for donations from right wing idiots and use that money for further fundraising and buying copies of your lovely self-published amazon e-book that's a 150 page stream of consciousness you pumped out while watching OAN for an afternoon. Insinuate yourself into a super pac to get payed exorbitant overtime pay while posting on Something Awful; now you're a social media maven.
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TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:It's strange Joe isn't constantly called out on this nonsense. Let's throw out all available data and instead use ~my feels~ Funny because we're nearly at the same point in the primary when Ron Paul started leading polls in Iowa in 2011, causing the Paulites to post-post-post that he was going to be the nominee. And yet he wasn't, and never had any chance of winning. ~*~makes you think~*~
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The problem with expecting Trump to implode is in expecting the 30 or more percent that he's holding down to have some sort of line to cross that we would even recognize. He's not going to implode over this weeks happenings(!) because he knows these voters are sick trash who get boners over trampling human decency. At this point I think he's built up enough momentum that no "bad" poo poo can stop his supporters from loving him, and he's too smart to spurn them by trying to moderate before the primary is over. Basically I think he already imploded and can't win the general, but the gop base voter who shows up to primaries is so hosed up and sick of their own party that fact ends up having no bearing on their vote. I have no idea what trumps end game is. If he gets through and spends more than a month as a threat to win (even with our news people desperate for a horse race I can't see how you do it without looking too supportive of an actual neonazi) I'm just going to walk into the sea. Because at that point I've lost the plot and don't know anything.
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He'll have the same cabinet Jeb! would end up with, minus some lesser cronies switched for Apprentice contestants. Trump's America.
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I am amazed at how much effort is being put in to destroy all the leading candidates by their own party.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:my dream is that he runs independent after being robbed It's my dream too, and dreams do come true.
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:I hate to defend trump, but watching Maddow's coverage of this whole thing last night made it pretty clear to me that a couple of reporters jumped on him with obnoxiously leading questions and he responded with fairly vague non-answers which they proceeded to mischaracterize to maintain their narrative. The second journalist was actually on Maddow and the guy looked like he was about to cum in his pants the whole time he was talking about it. It's so weird how a lot of the things the Republican side complains or warns people about actually do end up true after a while.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:im pretty much in agreement with joe that trump will never ever be the nominee, but yeah i also have no clue how they'll stop him. If you look at polls of "adults" he's at 33.9%. If you look at polls of registered voters, he's at 29.3%. If you look at polls of likely voters, he's at 26.7%. In Iowa with registered voters he's at 29.0%. Among likely voters he's at 22.0%. This provides a hint at what will be his problem.
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Kylra posted:I am amazed at how much effort is being put in to destroy all the leading candidates by their own party. The fact that they are spending all this money and energy to destroy their frontrunner(who probably won't win anyway) is really funny.
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Kylra posted:I am amazed at how much effort is being put in to destroy all the leading candidates by their own party. Why? They hate the party with a passion and blame them for half the poo poo they put on Obama too. They're also awful candidates.
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John Kasich retweeted a YouTube video bashing Trump. Unfortunately, the video was from a Democratic-aligned Super PAC and they decided to change the splash image and title after he tweeted it.
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Joementum posted:If you look at polls of "adults" he's at 33.9%. If you look at polls of registered voters, he's at 29.3%. If you look at polls of likely voters, he's at 26.7%. (Yeah I know anything passed wouldn't affect this election cycle.) Still, fair point, we'll see what happens. Joementum posted:John Kasich retweeted a YouTube video bashing Trump. Unfortunately, the video was from a Democratic-aligned Super PAC and they decided to change the splash image and title after he tweeted it.
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Joementum posted:John Kasich retweeted a YouTube video bashing Trump. Unfortunately, the video was from a Democratic-aligned Super PAC and they decided to change the splash image and title after he tweeted it. That is awesome. Only 44 retweets and 53 likes.
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Joementum posted:If you look at polls of "adults" he's at 33.9%. If you look at polls of registered voters, he's at 29.3%. If you look at polls of likely voters, he's at 26.7%. Does any single candidate's percentages significantly improve if you limit the poling to likely voters? Or is that roughly 10% drop just an artifact of him having a bigger chunk of the overall vote than anyone else? If you want to slay a dragon you have to have someone who can lift a sword.
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Joementum posted:Funny because we're nearly at the same point in the primary when Ron Paul started leading polls in Iowa in 2011, causing the Paulites to post-post-post that he was going to be the nominee. Ron Paul wasn't ever on top of the polls though was he? And definitely not for half a year.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Does any single candidate's percentages significantly improve if you limit the poling to likely voters? Or is that roughly 10% drop just an artifact of him having a bigger chunk of the overall vote than anyone else? Rubio and Cruz go from 11 and 10%, respectively to 14% in the national poll. The HuffPo Pollster charts have a "Create your Own" option that lets you change the time frame and check on/off a bunch of attributes about the polls.
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Jewel Repetition posted:Ron Paul wasn't ever on top of the polls though was he? And definitely not for half a year. Yes, he led Iowa at the end of December 2011. It looked like he might win the caucuses until Santorum gained ground in a surprise post-New Years CNN poll and consolidated the evangelical vote the weekend before the event.
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Mitt Romney posted:That isn't what exactly what I heard but they are going to be relentless in attacking Trump in the next month. Ads, surrogates and etc. Although I suspect they could get what they want simply by asking Trump outrageous questions and let him take it from there. except his insane answers will only make the bases collective boner for him harder. they are almost better off trying either go leftward or try to push trump to the left.
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Jewel Repetition posted:Ron Paul wasn't ever on top of the polls though was he? And definitely not for half a year. There's also a major difference in that most of the people saying Trump could win the primary aren't actually Trump supporters. Everyone apart from blind Paulites already knew Paul had a ceiling. The only ceiling to Trump's appeal is your level of cynicism. End of the day, H.L.Mencken posted:
Trump in prophecy. Joementum posted:Rubio and Cruz go from 11 and 10%, respectively to 14% in the national poll. Ok, fair enough. So presuming one of them drops out, add their votes together, you're at 28% to Trump's 22%? Presuming, of course, that none of Cruz's backers support Trump as their second choice. . .
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:If you want to slay a dragon you have to have someone who can lift a sword.
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Nessus posted:I hear Rubio has one. Hah, ziiing. There's an additional layer to that story that I had missed, though perhaps y'all hadn't; Bush Senior was being extremely sarcastic with the Unleash Chang thing. quote:
https://newrepublic.com/article/100205/marco-rubio-flunks-history
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http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/20/opinions/bush-refugee-policy/index.htmlA Jeb Bush op-ed posted:Their tone has been partisan and sanctimonious, and it is undermining a serious conversation about this foreign and domestic policy challenge. Said in regards to Obama and Hillary asking Republicans to maybe tone down their rhetoric toward war orphans. Jeb! is upset that the president and Hillary are stifling the robust and nuanced policy debate within the republican nominees and leaders across the nation. Considerations like the following should not be silenced for the sake of political correctness: Texas state representative Tony Dale posted:Dale wrote, “it is clear that firearms also killed a large number of innocent victims. Can you imagine a scenario were [sic] a refugees [sic] is admitted to the United States, is provided with federal cash payments and other assistance, obtains a drivers license and purchases a weapon and executes an attack?” He urged the lawmakers to “do whatever you can to stop the [Syrian refugee] program.” Dale is concerned that malicious refugees would buy guns with their welfare and foodstamps money. Dale gets an 'A' rating from the NRA, so we can be sure he's not implying that maybe the fact that it's absurdly easy for terrorists to purchase guns in Texas is a problem.
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