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Amergin posted:After Obama, I'm amazed anyone has any faith in liberal promises made during campaigns. Which is exactly why I have faith in Bernie's, despite the fact that it won't matter in the long run.
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Killing someone in the past won't help anything. I already went back and killed Schoen when he was an infant, and instead this Austrian rear end in a top hat turns up. And while the body count is lower it was still horrible. Just leave the past alone man.
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Nov 21, 2015 00:52
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My Imaginary GF posted:You're wrong. Hitler was responsible for WW2; not WW1. Hitler, and the goddamned Germans who refused to stand up and kill nazis. Wrong. Einstein already tried that, WW2 just happened differently.
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Fried Chicken posted:Killing someone in the past won't help anything. I already went back and killed Schoen when he was an infant, and instead this Austrian rear end in a top hat turns up. And while the body count is lower it was still horrible. Just leave the past alone man. Answering whether you would have killed someone in the past provides insight into if, when, and how you would kill someone in the future. It was a good question from the moderator. Wales Grey posted:Wrong. Einstein already tried that, WW2 just happened differently. Unfortunately, I think many on SA wish USSR had invaded Europe before, instead of with, Hitler.
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Nov 21, 2015 00:53
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Fried Chicken posted:Killing someone in the past won't help anything. I already went back and killed Schoen when he was an infant, and instead this Austrian rear end in a top hat turns up. And while the body count is lower it was still horrible. Just leave the past alone man.
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My Imaginary GF posted:
SA is full of third world Maoists, not perfidious soviets
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Bullfrog posted:White supremacists from /pol/ apparently showed up at the Black Lives Matter protests in Minneapolis last night, armed, and are planning to do so again tonight: https://www.facebook.com/BlackLivesMatterMinneapolis/videos/1010885932288533/ That gentleman on the right quotes Bane from the hit film 'The Dark Knight Rises' at one point.
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Nov 21, 2015 00:59
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Mr. Wookums posted:Now if you go back in time and kill all the Germans... You end up with Bargeron instead. We wiped out his family line and brought Bismark into power for a reason you monster.
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Nov 21, 2015 01:01
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Amergin posted:After Obama, I'm amazed anyone has any faith in liberal promises made during campaigns. I've been thinking about a name for your shtick, maybe we should call it "farting in the echo chamber"
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Nov 21, 2015 01:08
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:This is nonsense. The Treaty of Versailles demanded that reparations be paid in foreign currency so that Germany had to take out loans or move cash out out of currency every time they paid up. Germany got none of this after WW2, and even got a load of debt forgiveness in the 1950s. It is entirely, 100%, correct. Reparations as the driving force behind WWII was mostly nonsense: Germany could have paid up, but was politically unable to do so because the post-war settlement was regarded as illegitimate by the Germans who believed they'd agreed to an honorable truce, not a surrender. After WWII Germany was a smoking wreck and was divided half a decade and not even formally sovereign until the 90's.
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Filthy Hans posted:I've been thinking about a name for your shtick, maybe we should call it "farting in the echo chamber" Thing is, Obama didn't promise much more than "change" during the campaign. He didn't change much, and there is no hope for his legacy, so technically, Amergin is correct.
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Nov 21, 2015 01:14
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Fried Chicken posted:Bullshit There's only one type of commie that I know of
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My Imaginary GF posted:Thing is, Obama didn't promise much more than "change" during the campaign. He didn't change much, and there is no hope for his legacy, so technically, Amergin is correct. Government is like a Broadway show: you can't blame the director for 2/3 of the ballet troupe refusing to go on stage under the direction of a black man, explicitly because he's a black man. (And also a Muslim, a homosexual, a reptilian, ec cetera.)
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Nov 21, 2015 01:22
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Amergin posted:After Obama, I'm amazed anyone has any faith in liberal promises made during campaigns. Fun fact- you can say this about any politician. Bernie, Trump, whoever. Trust No One.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Here, have an article about how the children of the elite in Silicon Valley are all killing themselves for some reason that nobody can understand because why aren't you in Harvard yet you stupid bastard. Sorry to comment so late, but I just wanted to say that the rate of suicidal ideation in silicon valley high schoolers is less than the national average. But hey, why focus on Trauma and poverty nationally when you can focus on some rich kids?
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greatn posted:Do you have any idea how bad for you baklava is? Do you have any idea how good baklava is? Esp when they make it with pecans omg.
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LiterallyTheWurst posted:Sorry to comment so late, but I just wanted to say that the rate of suicidal ideation in silicon valley high schoolers is less than the national average. But hey, why focus on Trauma and poverty nationally when you can focus on some rich kids? How about if nobody kills themselves, or is suicide okay if it's rich kids
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Nov 21, 2015 01:42
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McDowell posted:Fun fact- you can say this about any politician. Bernie, Trump, whoever. Trust No One. Luigi Thirty posted:How about if nobody kills themselves, or is suicide okay if it's rich kids I mean, you are posting on a forum where "kill yourself" is a common rejoinder. What do you think the answer is going to be?
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Nov 21, 2015 01:48
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CommieGIR posted:I don't think this has anything to do with emphasis on STEM, but more to do with emphasis on grades over knowledge and commitment. We've called schools out on this for decades, for emphasizing test scores over work quality and commitment. it's definitely the end result of the whole push to 'fix' America's education system by making it more like those run by the industrious Orientals (never mind that East Asian education systems are hot loving garbage and those countries have some of the highest suicide rates in the world)
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Oracle posted:Do you have any idea how good baklava is? Esp when they make it with pecans omg. It's like 2000 kcals for like a 3cm x 3cm square.
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greatn posted:It's like 2000 kcals for like a 3cm x 3cm square. We could feed the world.
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evilweasel posted:It is entirely, 100%, correct. Reparations as the driving force behind WWII was mostly nonsense: Germany could have paid up, but was politically unable to do so because the post-war settlement was regarded as illegitimate by the Germans who believed they'd agreed to an honorable truce, not a surrender. You couldn't be any more wrong about this. t don't how you got "Germans could have paid up but were politically unable to do so" from "defaulting on payments". They were required to give exports as part of reparations and their factories simply couldn't keep up. The second they did default, Allied powers marched in and started seizing national assets. A lot of countries at the time were feeling a financial crunch and were attempting to offload their burdens on Germany. There as passive resistance in the end, but only after the Allies got heavy handed. Remember, the Weimar government accepted the Dawes plan condition of foreign supervision of the Reichsbank.
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fool_of_sound posted:We could feed the world. There's a reason why the Middle East has one of the highest rates of diabetes.
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Bullfrog posted:White supremacists from /pol/ apparently showed up at the Black Lives Matter protests in Minneapolis last night, armed, and are planning to do so again tonight: https://www.facebook.com/BlackLivesMatterMinneapolis/videos/1010885932288533/ Maarek posted:That gentleman on the right quotes Bane from the hit film 'The Dark Knight Rises' at one point.
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:This is nonsense. The Treaty of Versailles demanded that reparations be paid in foreign currency so that Germany had to take out loans or move cash out out of currency every time they paid up. Germany got none of this after WW2, and even got a load of debt forgiveness in the 1950s. Germany got occupation and partitioning, with extensive ongoing foreign government influence in its politics til the 90s, and permanent loss of 25% of its pre-Hitler territory. That's actually a good deal more severe than what happened after WWI.
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fishmech posted:Germany got occupation and partitioning, with extensive ongoing foreign government influence in its politics til the 90s, and permanent loss of 25% of its pre-Hitler territory. The United States was willing to float the German economy because of the Cold War, though. Germany was already feeling the shock on its economy before the Great Depression took off, but post WW2 Germany was able to reduce its debt, not give reparations in terms of exports, not get its national assets seized, and still have money left over for the insanely expensive reunification with East Germany.
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This cover of LIFE would have run this week in 1963, but they scrapped it to cover some guy getting shot in Dallas.
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:The United States was willing to float the German economy because of the Cold War, though. Germany was already feeling the shock on its economy before the Great Depression took off, but post WW2 Germany was able to reduce its debt, not give reparations in terms of exports, not get its national assets seized, and still have money left over for the insanely expensive reunification with East Germany. Floating a bit over a third of the country while a little under a third was domineered by the Soviets and the remaining third ain't even in any form of Germany anymore, is inarguably more severe then having to pay some debts that, under the original terms, would only be due in full by the 1960s (with the timeframe moved up to the 1980s before hitler took over) To think otherwise is basically some libertarian "money > people" bullshit.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Here, have an article about how the children of the elite in Silicon Valley are all killing themselves for some reason that nobody can understand because why aren't you in Harvard yet you stupid bastard. An unfortunate but ultimately necessary sacrifice for the capitalist free market.  As they say, you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. Alternatively, ＤＥＨＵＭＡＮＩＺＥ ＹＯＵＲＳＥＬＦ ＡＮＤ ＦＡＣＥ ＴＯ ＢＬＯＯＤＳＨＥＤ .
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Fried Chicken posted:no, it isn't. Setting aside the logical fallacy of trying to discredit the point in that way, it goes directly to how he views the optimal solution and in what context he views tools to achieve that end, which is highly relevant to discussing how he evaluates policy. Would you dismiss Richard Wolff's proposals vs Ha-Join Chang's on those grounds? e: "purity arguments"? stephenfry fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Nov 21, 2015 |
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:As they say, you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. Alternatively, We're making the mother of all omelets here, Jack! Can't fret over every egg!
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Joementum posted:This cover of LIFE would have run this week in 1963, but they scrapped it to cover some guy getting shot in Dallas.  2Pac
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Mitt Romney posted:An 8%+ democratic vote margin is the threshold to flip the house. Lower for the Senate. I'm 9 pages back, but let's pause a moment and meditate on how hosed up this is. Joementum posted:This cover of LIFE would have run this week in 1963, but they scrapped it to cover some guy getting shot in Dallas. Could re-use the headline too. 
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Joementum posted:This cover of LIFE would have run this week in 1963, but they scrapped it to cover some guy getting shot in Dallas. Hey, they could reuse one of those articles today as is. How convenient.
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greatn posted:It's like 2000 kcals for like a 3cm x 3cm square. The gently caress? is it made by the elves from LOTR
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Another interesting historical point is that Teddy White, author of that "Negro Demands" article was also the author of the popular "Making of the President" series of books, regarded as the foundation of the campaign saga book. His "Making of the President 1964" created the "Camelot" myth surrounding the Kennedy White House, after Jackie pushed him to include a lot of favorable posthumous interviews.
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Joementum posted:This cover of LIFE would have run this week in 1963, but they scrapped it to cover some guy getting shot in Dallas. They really dodged a bullet in that case.
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You could probably get away with selling that "negro demands" article to Fox or Brietbart and get away with it.
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:Hey, they could reuse one of those articles today as is. How convenient. Will those Wanamaker deb party scandals never cease?
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