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I'm expecting a book to come out sooner or later that's nothing but named characters for the legions, myself. Add game stats for legion personalities from the books and other media, like Torgaddon and Little Horus for the Sons, Acerbus Krieg and Zso Sahaal for the Night Lords, etc.
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So are the Graviton rapiers the best all around rapier option? Good against power armour, terminators and high av models.
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Nov 21, 2015 22:35
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TKIY posted:So are the Graviton rapiers the best all around rapier option? Good against power armour, terminators and high av models. Quad-Mortars can royally gently caress up large swathes of the battlefield. Graviton Rapiers though are one of the best means of removing spartans and similar chassis.
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Nov 21, 2015 22:42
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Cool, I bought a couple of them on a whim. I guess in my group no one will care if I proxy then for laser destroyers as long as it's consistent across the unit.
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Nov 22, 2015 01:41
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Rapiers are one of the best support units at low points games. All of the weapons have merit except maybe the quad heavy bolter.tallkidwithglasses posted:Re-doing mine, going with the Onslaught force org as suggested A good and fun list. I dig it. My only suggestion would be adding AA and power weapons on your sarges.
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Nov 22, 2015 03:52
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TKIY posted:So are the Graviton rapiers the best all around rapier option? Good against power armour, terminators and high av models. I want a unit of the lascannon ones, but I'm not sure if I can take them in a hidden blade list. I'll have to look up the artillery rules.
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Nov 22, 2015 05:02
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What book is the Rapiers and Quad Mortars in?
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Nov 22, 2015 06:53
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BULBASAUR posted:Rapiers are one of the best support units at low points games. All of the weapons have merit except maybe the quad heavy bolter. Since they got changed to be Heavy 6 instead of Heavy 4 they seem a lot better, especially against things like Auxilia or infantry-heavy Legion lists.
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Nov 22, 2015 08:21
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Recoome posted:What book is the Rapiers and Quad Mortars in? The red one.  Book 2 I think? Imma look it up when I hit my warhams club. Edit: Its in book 1 On another note, are people going to be mad if I throw legion specific mk iv helmets on my luna wolves? The sons of horus mohawks look ridiculous. I was going to think of just using whatever helmets looks cool. DJ Dizzy fucked around with this message at 10:30 on Nov 22, 2015 |
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Nov 22, 2015 09:28
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Probably not. Also, I'm really struggling with getting a coherent list with my World Eaters. So far I only know that blobs work in their favour, so I was going to go for 3x 20 tacticals with extra CCW (once BoC marine prices on eBay drop a bit). The contemptor I was going to stick with the assault cannon and CCW. But in terms of transport? I love the look of the Spartan but buying 3 just for troops seems a bit expensive in both ways. Plus I'd like to field Red Butchers or cataphractii with Khârn or Angron but obviously they'd need their own Spartan. Non-assault vehicles like Rhinos seem counter intuitive to World Eaters, and I still need a dedicated method for dealing with armour. Just out of what I like the look of I was thinking either one of the predators or something. Like, at the moment I'm at the stage of "oh a deredeo would be fun to build and paint, but so would the new leviathan." etc.
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Nov 22, 2015 09:57
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The Sisko posted:Alrighty Goons , I have list that could use some critique. Just to clarify, the praetor and Gal Vorbak are rolling around in the Spartan while the Navigator will go with the Veteran Squad with outflank. Don't Word Bearers always have to take a Chaplain / Centurion because of the Charismatic Leadership rule or am I misreading it?
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Nov 22, 2015 11:49
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X post from Mini Painting Thread... Salamanders 1 down 30 to go!Lord Twisted posted:Had my first proper go with an airbrush! Took probably 4-5 attempts and strips to get right, but now I'm happy with the final effect.
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So there's rumors of a plastic sicaran coming out next quarter. Probably more than likely not true, but on the other hand it might make sense in that it'll give FW some breathing room to focus on the Specialist Games stuff while GW proper starts producing the currently available 30k stuff. Imagine, a plastic fire raptor. 
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ijyt posted:So there's rumors of a plastic sicaran coming out next quarter. Probably more than likely not true, but on the other hand it might make sense in that it'll give FW some breathing room to focus on the Specialist Games stuff while GW proper starts producing the currently available 30k stuff. Calm down, my dick can only get so hard.
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Nov 22, 2015 19:25
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It isn't GW proper producing it. It is FW getting time on the CAD and plastics. FW came out with those sprues. The most logical thing for them to do is convert some of the biggest sellers to plastics to free up FW time and retire the most popular (and quick to wear out) moulds. In those terms I can see the Sicaran being one of the first things to convert over. And perhaps a Rapier kit with all options. And legion specific upgrade sprues.
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Shazaminator posted:Don't Word Bearers always have to take a Chaplain / Centurion because of the Charismatic Leadership rule or am I misreading it? Good catch. For the longest time I had been running Erebus who counts as a chaplain.
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Garviel Loken: Rite of War (The Black Reaving) 175 • Anvillus Pattern Dreadclaw Drop Pod 100 • 4 Space Marine Chosen: power weapon; 2× power fist; melta bombs; + 1 Standard Bearer 205 Master of Signal 95 9 Reavers: 2× power weapon; jump packs; + 1 Reaver Chieftain (melta bombs) 285 9 Reavers: 2× power weapon; jump packs; + 1 Reaver Chieftain (melta bombs) 285 14 Tactical Space Marines: chainswords; + 1 Tactical Sergeant 230 Contemptor Mortis Dreadnought: 2 Kheres pattern assault cannons 180 1 Rapier Carrier: laser destroyer array 55 1 Rapier Carrier: laser destroyer array 55 6 Jetbike Sky Hunters: 2× volkite culverin; melta bombs 290 3 Outriders: melta bombs; Space Marine bikes (twin-linked plasma guns) 180 1 Javelin Attack Speeder 75 Sicaran Battle Tank 135 Artillery Tank Squadron • Medusa 155 I think this is the final draft of my 2500 point list. Still maybe not enough AT weapons, but the amount of meltabombs should be able to do some damage to spartans. And the medusa.
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Nov 22, 2015 19:38
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DJ Dizzy posted:Contemptor Mortis Dreadnought: 2 Kheres pattern assault cannons 180 How are you getting this? A contemptor plus two assault cannons is 205 points, right? Is there errata somewhere or is a Mortis costed differently?
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tallkidwithglasses posted:How are you getting this? A contemptor plus two assault cannons is 205 points, right? Is there errata somewhere or is a Mortis costed differently? Mortis dreadnoughts are cheaper. They always have the same weapons, and are bought as singles. They are in Bk 2 and the red book.
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Thundercloud posted:Mortis dreadnoughts are cheaper. They always have the same weapons, and are bought as singles. They are in Bk 2 and the red book. A Mortis-Contemptor is 155 pts, and each Kheres is 25 points.
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Mango Polo posted:A Mortis-Contemptor is 155 pts, and each Kheres is 25 points. It's two Kheres for 25. Mortis weapons are always bought in pairs.
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Nov 22, 2015 21:22
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Oops, double checked and that's right.
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The actual differences between a regular Contemptor and a Mortis are that the Mortis has the Skyfire and Interceptor thing going for it while the regular one has a twin-linked hull mounted bolter they can replace with something useful like a meltagun, +1 WS and Fleet. So, really, I still haven't found a reason to field a regular Contemptor with two Kheres cannons. They're pretty clearly designed to eat face up close instead. e: whoops, they can actually replace the twin-linked bolters in their close combat weapons with something useful I mean. That could get plenty interesting with a couple of meltas or plasmas. Rulebook Heavily fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Nov 22, 2015 |
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Nov 22, 2015 21:42
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Are plasma cannons any good in 30k? I found a bag with 12 of them that I was going to run for a gimmick list at some point.
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MasterSlowPoke posted:Are plasma cannons any good in 30k? I found a bag with 12 of them that I was going to run for a gimmick list at some point. Jetbikes wont need to jink as often with +2 save, but meh, I prefer culverins.
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Nov 23, 2015 10:20
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Going to be facing lots of power armour so I can't imagine it'll be any different from 40k Plasma Cannon Devastators. Half the time they'll do nothing before they explode/are gunned down. The other half they'll vaporise half your opponents army. At least that's my experiance.
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Has anyone worked on modding the Calth Contemptor model to use two Kheres assault cannons? I saw someone post a completed shot online and it looks good but I wanted to know how much work was involved.
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Nov 23, 2015 16:30
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PierreTheMime posted:Has anyone worked on modding the Calth Contemptor model to use two Kheres assault cannons? I saw someone post a completed shot online and it looks good but I wanted to know how much work was involved. Seems it's as simple as cutting just under the shoulder and triming a little from the Khere's upper 'arm' to get it to look right. Planning to do that to my Calth Dread come Xmas, as well as give it a Havoc Launcher if it fits.
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I just cracked open my Caltb box earlier and it's exactly that easy - I traded bits with my fried and he made a Kheres mortis-contemptor while I went with two fists. You saw the arm carefully in two under the shoulder and join them together so you end up with a right fist and left cannon.
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Are there any physical characteristics or bits that differentiate a Mortis-Contemptor from a Contemptor? What makes it obvious that it's a Mortis?
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Germ posted:Are there any physical characteristics or bits that differentiate a Mortis-Contemptor from a Contemptor? What makes it obvious that it's a Mortis? Nope, Mortis just have two paired guns for arms and that's it. The Havoc Launcher comes with a different head if you wanna make it even more obvious it's a shooty Dread.
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I always forget that that's actually a havoc launcher and not a cyclone missile launcher. It's even listed on Forge World's site as a cyclone. Do 40k contemptors get them?
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Safety Factor posted:I always forget that that's actually a havoc launcher and not a cyclone missile launcher. It's even listed on Forge World's site as a cyclone. Do 40k contemptors get them? Yep, pretty sure the Chaos Contemptors still use the Havoc launchers through.
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Nov 23, 2015 21:34
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Calth box doesn't include the Havoc Launcher, does it?
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Nov 23, 2015 21:40
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Nay.
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Nov 23, 2015 21:44
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Boo.
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Anyone using the Multimelta arm care to sell me your Assault Cannon bitz? I suppose I could buy a whole new Contemptor on eBay, but I figured I'd check first.
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Nov 23, 2015 23:24
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Angry Red Space Vampire Praetor. 
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Stanyer89 posted:Angry Red Space Vampire Praetor. Looks great. I really like the back
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Stanyer89 posted:Angry Red Space Vampire Praetor. That is 100% bad rear end. Question, though: how many pieces will it break into when thrown at a wall? 
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