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Funky Valentine posted:The actual revolution of ideas about the relation between the tiny-rear end island hundreds of miles away from it's massive colonial "posession" was going pretty peacefully until the sheer tension produced by British troops in and around Boston boiled over and war were declared. By this standard doesn't almost every revolution begin peacefully?
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Wiz posted:Stellaris is pretty great, I stayed until late at work today to play my Goa'Uld Empire campaign. Twitch stream or it didn't happen 
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Nov 23, 2015 22:16
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Dibujante posted:Twitch stream or it didn't happen All the backwards races I enslaved *wish* it didn't happen.
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Nov 23, 2015 22:19
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Wiz posted:All the backwards races I enslaved You mean uplifted.
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Nov 23, 2015 22:23
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Wiz posted:All the backwards races I enslaved *wish* it didn't happen. Danes are in Stellaris? Or was it just a RNG coincidence?
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Nov 23, 2015 22:24
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Dibujante posted:Danes are in Stellaris? Or was it just a RNG coincidence? The Day'ne, a race of filthy slug creatures that sleep in their own filth and practice every depravity known to civilized beings. They make this really cool building toy, though.
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Agean90 posted:So what's the most "wait what" level bug you guys have found so far We had a MP match where the endgame crisis stuff started firing on day 1. That... went badly for us.
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Funky Valentine posted:The Day'ne, a race of filthy slug creatures that sleep in their own filth and practice every depravity known to civilized beings. Thank you, Sway'dish watchtowers. Your plutonium will bring the Day'nes to their knees. Here is Day'neworld, shat out of chalk and hydrogen. Across the stars, Sway'den, hewn from igneous rock. loving Day'nes. loving Day'nes!
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Nov 23, 2015 22:34
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Darkrenown posted:We had a MP match where the endgame crisis stuff started firing on day 1. That... went badly for us. Another "bug" that doesn't need fixing. 
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Nov 23, 2015 22:37
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Fintilgin posted:Another "bug" that doesn't need fixing. This is basically an AI War scenario for Stellaris so I completely endorse it.
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Nov 23, 2015 22:38
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The Sharmat posted:By this standard doesn't almost every revolution begin peacefully? Yes.
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I just realised that there will be some really fun potential for co-op MP scenarios, something which never really worked in EU for a whole lot of reasons.
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karmicknight posted:Yes. So do many wars.
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Nov 23, 2015 22:51
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uninverted posted:"The revolution was entirely peaceful until the fighting started". Are goons this thick, or is the joke that no one thinks that post is just a little tongue in cheek. His sig starts with "Johnny Reb".
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Nov 23, 2015 22:55
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I'm pretty thick (or as I liked to say, I have maluses to intelligence), but at the same time, the Paradox forums are bad
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Enjoy posted:I'm pretty thick (or as I liked to say, I have maluses to intelligence), but at the same time, the Paradox forums are bad Malii  Confederate apologists are often beyond even satire, though.
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Eskaton posted:Are goons this thick, or is the joke that no one thinks that post is just a little tongue in cheek. His sig starts with "Johnny Reb". Poe's law, dog.
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Eskaton posted:Are goons this thick, or is the joke that no one thinks that post is just a little tongue in cheek. His sig starts with "Johnny Reb". Have you ever talked with a neo-Confederate?
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Also people who are neo-confederates and people who think it's funny to troll an internet forum by pretending to be one both fall into 'people I don't want to interact with,' so the difference isn't really meaningful.
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Eskaton posted:Are goons this thick, or is the joke that no one thinks that post is just a little tongue in cheek. His sig starts with "Johnny Reb". I'm pretty sure the post was completely without irony.
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The Sharmat posted:I'm pretty sure the post was completely without irony. I live in Florida and I'll second the "neoconfederates say terrible things". Confederate flag wavers are entirely unapologetic about the Confederacy and have a raging hard on for how it was all about freedom. ... ... ...(to keep slaves)
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I live in Alabama and the "no really I just like limited government and think it's a cool period of history" type of Confederate flag waver does actually exist but at least 3/4ths of the time it's just a closet (or uncloseted) racist.
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Communist Zombie posted:Well they are apparently re working the ACW in Kaiserreich. IIRC the various areas of the US vote independently which then determines the election result (including a hung electoral college) and what side each area joins, outside of core CSA/AUS areas. That's just one proposal that hasn't been accepted yet. It requires a lot more events before it can be put in. The users really do not seem to like my unified Democratic-Republican ticket or abolished electoral college ideas, either. Alikchi posted:Now would be a great time to fix some of the extremely unlikely stuff in KR in general. The idea that Germany could continue full war effort into 1921 while still under British blockade with no revolution is the lovely premise undermining the whole thing. Just have Germany win in 1918! I'm pushing for the backstory another user came up with: The war truly ends in a ceasefire in 1919 (I keep telling them to puncture the blockade before the end of 1918, but they don't seem to understand how devastating it was) with an official end in 1921. I'd prefer 1918, but the issue is Germany keeping Austro-Hungary and the Ottomans afloat long enough to survive the year, which delays it.
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Why not roll the British revolution back to 1918 in a Kiel mutiny style thing that knocks the Royal Navy out of the war and lifts the blockade? When is it meant to have happened
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Enjoy posted:Why not roll the British revolution back to 1918 in a Kiel mutiny style thing that knocks the Royal Navy out of the war and lifts the blockade? When is it meant to have happened The British Revolution is in 1925 and is probably the most important and significant event in Kaiserreich's canon. Moving it would require rewriting goddamn everything. If I had the pull, I'd try to move the "Point of Departure" back 6 months to the Battle of Jutland, but that would have serious ripple effects. For now, I'm settling with someone using the Necronomicon to call a storm that allows the Hochseeflotte to defeat the blockade. Kavak fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Nov 24, 2015 |
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Why not have the mutiny be suppressed successfully and the domestic reaction to the suppression stokes unrest that eventually leads to the Revolution? No need to push the revolution back.
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Chief Savage Man posted:Why not have the mutiny be suppressed successfully and the domestic reaction to the suppression stokes unrest that eventually leads to the Revolution? No need to push the revolution back. I don't think the Royal Navy was ever cooped up in port so long that it lead to the kinds of conditions that triggered the Kiel Mutiny. Speaking of which, the mutiny still kind of happens on a lower scale. The rumors are enough to trigger a minor Bavarian Revolution in Munich, which is also beaten down hard, but scares the poo poo out of Germany and leaves much of the populace anti-Socialist.
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Kavak posted:The British Revolution is in 1925 and is probably the most important and significant event in Kaiserreich's canon. Moving it would require rewriting goddamn everything. If I had the pull, I'd try to move the "Point of Departure" back 6 months to the Battle of Jutland, but that would have serious ripple effects. For now, I'm settling with someone using the Necronomicon to call a storm that allows the Hochseeflotte to defeat the blockade. Maybe the US goes full-on neutral early in the war, demanding that they be allowed to export food (and only food) to Germany freely "or else we will send a convoy with some battleships", in return Germany keeps her subs strictly in a fleet support role. The first few years of the war aren't nearly as hard on the German population, so they have a longer breath, so to speak. Germany inevitably does something stupid like trying to use the subs to blockade Britain, bringing the US into the war as historically.
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ArchangeI posted:Maybe the US goes full-on neutral early in the war, demanding that they be allowed to export food (and only food) to Germany freely "or else we will send a convoy with some battleships", in return Germany keeps her subs strictly in a fleet support role. The first few years of the war aren't nearly as hard on the German population, so they have a longer breath, so to speak. Germany inevitably does something stupid like trying to use the subs to blockade Britain, bringing the US into the war as historically. The US never joined the war in Kaiserreich.
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Wait, how the gently caress was Germany supposed to win the war without an extremely unrestricted submarine campaign and why would that not pull the US in?
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Pharnakes posted:Wait, how the gently caress was Germany supposed to win the war without an extremely unrestricted submarine campaign and why would that not pull the US in?
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Pharnakes posted:Wait, how the gently caress was Germany supposed to win the war without an extremely unrestricted submarine campaign and why would that not pull the US in? It probably would have helped if Zimmermann hadn't admitted that his telegram to Mexico was genuine. I mean there's just no loving way you should ever publicly admit to sending something that dumb.
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PittTheElder posted:It probably would have helped if Zimmermann hadn't admitted that his telegram to Mexico was genuine. I mean there's just no loving way you should ever publicly admit to sending something that dumb. Everything about Germany's foreign policy regarding the US was loving clownshoes, but we were getting involved the moment the Germans starting torpedoing our ships again.
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In the Kaiserreich timeline, Bismarck's Ghost was kept around as a diplomatic advisor just to keep the US out of the war.
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GSD posted:In the Kaiserreich timeline, Bismarck's Ghost was kept around as a diplomatic advisor just to keep the US out of the war. Germany lost two world wars, millions of people, billions of dollars in development and income, half its territory, and spent half the century in two pieces, and is still the most powerful economy in Europe. I can't imagine what kind of beast it would be if they'd avoided even one of those disasters, like dropping von Bismarck, going down the Weltpolitik route, and pissing off both Britain and Russia. Kavak fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Nov 24, 2015 |
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Kavak posted:Germany lost two world wars, millions of people, billions of dollars in development and income, half its territory, and spent half the century in two pieces, and is still the most powerful economy in Europe. I can't imagine what kind of beast it would be if they'd avoided even one of those disasters, like dropping von Bismarck, going down the Weltpolitik route, and pissing off both Britain and Russia. Each of those defeats also restructured the German state, though, possibly in ways that benefitted it in the long run. Pre-Weimar Germany still had substantial involvement of the aristocracy in its government and economy, which could have retarded growth.
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Wiz posted:Stellaris is pretty great, I stayed until late at work today to play my Goa'Uld Empire campaign.
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