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cheetah7071 posted:My understanding is this is the best way to do it: Remember, this is a much more ideal form of the fell cleave combo where you can assume that you have the opportunity to do any of this. Even just getting two berserk fell cleaves is a ridiculous amount of burst that ain't nothing to squawk at. e: worrying about attribute break points in this game is a really, really good way to start hating the game.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:I think it's quite evident that the next patch's MSQ will be quite Ul'dah-focused, with the Yda and Papalymo stinger. I assumed that was supposed to be a hint for 4.0 and Ala Migho liberation.
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# ? Nov 24, 2015 02:35 |
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Rexicon1 posted:paladin rules I'm sorry Elementary school was a traumatic experience for you, but it's ok law enforcement is a lucrative career choice.
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# ? Nov 24, 2015 02:37 |
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Thanks icam.
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# ? Nov 24, 2015 02:45 |
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Rexicon1 posted:Remember, this is a much more ideal form of the fell cleave combo where you can assume that you have the opportunity to do any of this. Even just getting two berserk fell cleaves is a ridiculous amount of burst that ain't nothing to squawk at. Yeah, that's why I do mine the way I do it (4 stacks the hard way, berserk, cleave, infuriate, cleave, intuition & vengeance, 3 more stacks the hard way, cleave again). My logic being that even if it isn't perfect dps it at least gives me an almost guaranteed chance of pulling off a double berserk cleave without getting interrupted by mechanics, and gives me a solid chance to quickly get to the third before something goes wrong. Perhaps it isn't optimal necessarily, but it's safer. Even if I do gently caress it up, I'm slightly more baller than the tanks who don't try it at all I guess.
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# ? Nov 24, 2015 03:09 |
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Ainsley McTree posted:Unless it's to try out warrior, I assume you mean. Some combination of: 4 stacks hard way. Maybe Bloodbath oGCD Internal release oGCD Heavy Swing Berserk oGCD Cleave Infuriate Cleave Three stacks the hard way while weaving in Raw Intuition and Vengeance as oGCDs. Cleave Fracture Crash SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Nov 24, 2015 |
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So have they changed the crazy good classes in pvp or is it still basically warrior/summoner?
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# ? Nov 24, 2015 04:39 |
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Rexicon1 posted:Remember, this is a much more ideal form of the fell cleave combo where you can assume that you have the opportunity to do any of this. Even just getting two berserk fell cleaves is a ridiculous amount of burst that ain't nothing to squawk at. Another thing to keep in mind is that triple fell cleave is good for burn phases or at the start of a fight when all your cooldowns are up, but you don't want to be delaying cooldowns just for the sake of the triple fell cleave. Infuriate is a 60s cooldown and berserk is 90s; you need both for a triple fell cleave.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Some combination of: That makes sense. I was overlooking the "heavy swing before berserk so you can go right into the stack-building again" part. Fister Roboto posted:Another thing to keep in mind is that triple fell cleave is good for burn phases or at the start of a fight when all your cooldowns are up, but you don't want to be delaying cooldowns just for the sake of the triple fell cleave. Infuriate is a 60s cooldown and berserk is 90s; you need both for a triple fell cleave. That makes sense too. Thanks.
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# ? Nov 24, 2015 04:58 |
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Boten Anna posted:I'm sorry Elementary school was a traumatic experience for you, but it's ok law enforcement is a lucrative career choice. rude
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# ? Nov 24, 2015 05:01 |
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nuru posted:International Hotels do get a pass in many major areas, yes. But my point was more that US services like Netflix and Hulu will say you cannot access them from outside the US, and the socks proxy gets around it easily whereas VPNs tend to go to services they blacklist. That's pretty funny, the one hotel I stayed in in Shenzhen was like 30 stories and the wi-fi password was the name of the hotel so god only knows how many natives were hijacking that poo poo the TV was crazy weird out there too, one night I turned on the hotel TV and one of the channels was playing a low-bitrate web stream of Afro Samurai with Chinese subtitles, like you could see the navigation/info bar at the bottom of the screen and everything China was loving awesome I think is what I'm getting at
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# ? Nov 24, 2015 05:26 |
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I RP as an ice mage
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# ? Nov 24, 2015 06:35 |
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what the poo poo why
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# ? Nov 24, 2015 06:39 |
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vOv posted:what the poo poo https://dd.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/3u0mwl/ice_mage_dps_test/ This is a humor post. DON'T DO THIS.
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# ? Nov 24, 2015 06:43 |
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I don't have a parser so I'm not sure what average numbers are but that's way above average isn't it
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# ? Nov 24, 2015 06:48 |
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The 700's are a bit low.
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Line Feed posted:The 700's are a bit low. And yet seemingly above average for dungeon finder DPS. This just proves that its people not pushing buttons every 3 seconds.
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# ? Nov 24, 2015 07:36 |
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I just got 780 DPS as an ice mage compared to 1268 DPS with my real rotation (i193 with i200 weapon). Comparing that to pubs is kinda hard because most fights aren't target dummies, but I think an 'average' pub would pull something like 900-1000 on a target dummy? Or maybe I'm wrong. vOv fucked around with this message at 07:47 on Nov 24, 2015 |
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Putting subjective enjoyment of the current available content aside, there hasn't been a single innovation to the overall structure of trials/raids/dungeons since we finished the HM primals during 2.0 over 2 years ago. I'm not saying this stuff isn't fun, but here is all we have so far: 1 - Dungeon: teleport to dungeon, run through hallway, fight x # of bosses, kill trash on the way. 2 - Trial: teleport to circle, fight boss while dodging mechanics, get loot. 3 - Raid/24-man: (sometimes) kill meaningless trash in a hallway, get to circle/square with boss, dodge mechanics, get loot. 4 - Quests: talk to NPC, collect/kill 3-5 of something. 5 - Hunts/Diadem: zerg to kill a mob, ignore mechanics, grind indefinitely. I know everyone's sick of comparisons to FFXI (it's a different game), but the fact is that it makes up a large chunk of MMO experience for a lot of people that play FFXIV, and there was a hell of a lot more content variety 2 years into the game's release than there is in FFXIV. I won't go into the details of how each piece of content was unique, but there was a lot of stuff you could actually do as a guild(see Sky/Dynamis where you actually had to coordinate as a large alliance to get things done). We haven't had a single "game type" that is fundamentally different from something in the past. There hasn't been anything that has required the coordination of 20-30 people in an FC, which have been boiled down to essentially chat rooms for friends with no significance beyond the airship and EXP bonuses. There is no inter-raid group content, and there is nothing you can do as a large group of friends that couldn't be accomplished just as easily by an uncoordinated mess of 60 strangers. This has resulted in friend silos, with their own LS/voice channels and a feeling of strong disconnect in the community outside of your circle of friends. I had really high hopes airship was going to be this type of large scale content. Something you could spend all night in with 20-30 people from your FC, spreading out to tackle objectives and meeting again to tackle hard "HNMs." Instead we got instanced hunts. tl;dr So my question is, do you think it's the small dev team, the limited engine, or something else that is preventing this game from seeing any innovation in the content released? After 7(?) content patches, and an expansion, there hasn't been a single content addition that has been fundamentally different from the content that came with the game.
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Niton posted:https://dd.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/3u0mwl/ice_mage_dps_test/ Someone is gonna justify themselves with this, kill them now
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Mordiceius posted:Putting subjective enjoyment of the current available content aside, there hasn't been a single innovation to the overall structure of trials/raids/dungeons since we finished the HM primals during 2.0 over 2 years ago. https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/3tyrsw/is_the_dev_team_too_small_is_the_game_engine/ cite your sources
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# ? Nov 24, 2015 08:02 |
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on an unrelated note, the diadem and exploratory missions seem really neat
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# ? Nov 24, 2015 08:03 |
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I'm actually surprised you can hit 700 dps as an "ice mage" and it's extra sad that I've seen way worse than that in exdr.
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# ? Nov 24, 2015 08:07 |
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Diadem is dumb
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ilifinicus posted:Diadem is dumb
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ilifinicus posted:Diadem is dumb Diadumb.
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ilifinicus posted:Diadem is dumb
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I'm trying to imagine how you stand while licking someone's thigh.
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vOv posted:I'm trying to imagine how you stand while licking someone's thigh. Lalafells
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vOv posted:I'm trying to imagine how you stand while licking someone's thigh. Lalafel to someone normal size, I'm guessing.
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ilifinicus posted:Diadem is dumb Belzac posted:
KaneTW posted:
Hahahahaha
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ilifinicus posted:Diadem is dumb Artless Meat posted:Diadumb.
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# ? Nov 24, 2015 16:19 |
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Diadem is great
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# ? Nov 24, 2015 17:09 |
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Loot in this game is pretty boring and having it be randomized and obtained from boring rear end grinds does not make it more fun but it probably makes it less fun
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Ainsley McTree posted:That makes sense. I was overlooking the "heavy swing before berserk so you can go right into the stack-building again" part. You can Internal Release and Berserk in the same GCD and you should avoid getting in the habit of using Vengeance as part of the rotation because there are lots of fights where you have to switch to tanking something in between combos and it's nice/required to have Vengeance available. Also if you have the skillspeed/haste always Fracture before your last Fell Cleave or else you lose out on 10% crit on it.
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For MCH AoE trash mobs, what's the best strategy? Using grenado shot drains your TP like crazy, whereas spread shot isn't so bad. I generally throw out the bishop turret, then after a little while replace it with rook and use promote for a TP gain after using spread and grenado (after a hot shot), but I bet I can do a little better here.
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Eej posted:Also if you have the skillspeed/haste always Fracture before your last Fell Cleave or else you lose out on 10% crit on it. You need a lot of skill speed or a scholar with Selene or an astro giving you the arrow to do this reliably. Whenever I try to do this without any of those things, my berserk wears off right before I hit the last fell cleave. A fracture with +10% crit is not worth the risk of missing out on a berserked fell cleave.
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Touchfuzzy posted:Hahahahaha Diadem is dumb because it requires me to do boring rear end content for an expected time of literally thousands of hours if I want to get BIS. gently caress that with a chainsaw.
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seiferguy posted:For MCH AoE trash mobs, what's the best strategy? Using grenado shot drains your TP like crazy, whereas spread shot isn't so bad. I generally throw out the bishop turret, then after a little while replace it with rook and use promote for a TP gain after using spread and grenado (after a hot shot), but I bet I can do a little better here. Burn your cooldowns unless you're saving them for a boss within 90 seconds of the trash pack dying (3 mins for Raging). Same with Hypercharge on the Bishop. Hotshot and DoT everything. Wildfire the thing with the most HP, stay on that target, burn your Reload for the potency bonus and go to town, ensure you're weaving your oGCDs and Quick in between AoE. I'll normally Grenado down to using Invigorate then make a call on how fast things are dying and either alternate Grenado and Spread or just drop to Spread. Obviously keep Hotshot up above all else. Once down to 300ish TP, either lob down a Rook and boost (which will maybe buy you another two Spread before you're on fumes) or switch to single target and whittle off mobs low HP to high. Basically you want to come out of every AoE pack exhausted of TP and cooldowns and run a boosted Rook as you move to the next.
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