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cat doter posted:Am I the only one that loving hates using kontakt? I use it a lot since there's a ton of cool stuff made for it but I'd rather just add a VSTi to a track and have it go rather than dealing with their dumb wrapper. It has a lot of weird issues that I have to work around. I do. So much so that when I made Platter I did it in Reaktor even though it's just a sample player.
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cat doter posted:Am I the only one that loving hates using kontakt? I use it a lot since there's a ton of cool stuff made for it but I'd rather just add a VSTi to a track and have it go rather than dealing with their dumb wrapper. It has a lot of weird issues that I have to work around. Yeah it's a pain in the rear end but I rely pretty heavily on several kontakt libraries these days so I really haven't found anything to replace that whole system at least it's better than Best Services Engine  Earwicker fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Nov 22, 2015 |
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I wish I had chosen the Kontakt version of Kirk Hunter's orchestral collection years ago. EXS24 does the trick, but drat, can it be clunky sometimes. Maybe I have to just become one with the EXS...
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I hate bits of Kontakt, particularly the effects section. poo poo's way more clumsy than it needs to be. I use Kontakt on pretty much every project I do, though, so clearly that's not a deal breaker for me.
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Anyone here use Omnisphere? From what I'm seeing, it feels like it'd be that one 'synth that really does it all'. Thoughts?
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Anyone here use Omnisphere? From what I'm seeing, it feels like it'd be that one 'synth that really does it all'. Thoughts? It's loving awesome. That's my take on it.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Anyone here use Omnisphere? From what I'm seeing, it feels like it'd be that one 'synth that really does it all'. Thoughts? If I need a basic sample-based instrument I make my own in Kontakt/MachFive/Falcon. If I need a basic synth patch I make my own in Dune/Element/Massive or more recently, Hive. If I need layered/evolving "professional" patches I use Nexus, HALion Sonic, or a good Kontakt library like AEON Melodic. Omnisphere can do literally all of the above things, but I haven't felt compelled to learn how to program it yet (I wouldn't exactly describe it as intuitive), and every time I've gone to the factory library for ROMpler sounds, I always ended up finding something I liked better in my Nexus libraries or HALion Sonic. I hear the Plugin Guru expansions are really popular, but I'm not ready to drop another couple hundy to try to get more out of this plugin.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Anyone here use Omnisphere? From what I'm seeing, it feels like it'd be that one 'synth that really does it all'. Thoughts? I admit it's great, from what I've used of it, but be careful with using it for game sound design. The EULA is weirdly restrictive about only using Omnisphere for "musical works".
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Anyone here use Omnisphere? From what I'm seeing, it feels like it'd be that one 'synth that really does it all'. Thoughts? I tried it ages ago and really liked it - the sounds are diverse enough that you can usually find what you want. It has this nice, huge sound to most of its synths. That being said I didn't find it as fun to use as FM7 (at the time) but that is completely subjective. I was coming off of using Albino 3 so take that for what it's worth.
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MockingQuantum posted:I admit it's great, from what I've used of it, but be careful with using it for game sound design. The EULA is weirdly restrictive about only using Omnisphere for "musical works". Yeah, I learned about this today. What the gently caress is that all about?! And really... if you designed something from scratch, who's going to know?
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It's not "weirdly restrictive" at all. Most large sample library based products have very similar restrictions and for some reason spectrasonics get an atypical amount of poo poo for it .Maybe because they are cool enough to clearly state the licensing terms on their website in a nice big font so people actually read it.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Yeah, I learned about this today. What the gently caress is that all about?! And really... if you designed something from scratch, who's going to know? The point of these kind of restrictions (and they are indeed quite common) is effectively a way of stopping you from buying a sample library and then using it in such a way that anyone else could use it as a sample library for free. For example if you take all of the samples in a library and use them whole, unedited as sound design elements in an OS or video game or something like that, any user could easily record all of the individual design elements and thus come away with a copy of the sample library for free. (It's also to stop people from taking the sample library and reselling it as their own sample library.) edit: pretty sure Omnisphere's EULA as far as this is concerned refers only to the sounds included in the library, not to any possible sound you can make with the synth. You can certainly use it for game sound design if you are making your own sounds with it. Earwicker fucked around with this message at 13:52 on Nov 25, 2015 |
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Dicky B posted:It's not "weirdly restrictive" at all. Most large sample library based products have very similar restrictions and for some reason spectrasonics get an atypical amount of poo poo for it .Maybe because they are cool enough to clearly state the licensing terms on their website in a nice big font so people actually read it. It's weirdly restrictive in the sense that Eric Persing frequently and personally pushes game sound designers to use Omnisphere, and when we tell him we won't because of the EULA, he responds by saying they would never enforce that. Ooookay, we'll knowingly violate your EULA because you totally said it's fine, guys! I agree that it's really common for sample based synths to have "musical work" as the qualifier, I think what puts a lot of people off is that Spectrasonics has been aggressive about making that point. Earwicker posted:The point of these kind of restrictions (and they are indeed quite common) is effectively a way of stopping you from buying a sample library and then using it in such a way that anyone else could use it as a sample library for free. Given that I know one person who has gotten in a weird pseudo legal battle with Spectrasonics over whether sound design for games constitutes a musical work as defined by the EULA, I don't think it's worth toeing whatever line Spectrasonics wants to draw in the sand over "acceptable use". Regardless, yes, it's probably true that the majority of sound designers will never run into issues. I personally don't think it's worth the cost of the program to second-guess myself whenever I consider using it. I'd rather stick with synths I know will always be free from legal implications. MockingQuantum fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Nov 25, 2015 |
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Soundtoys has a Black Friday sale on. The full Soundtoys 5 is $299, down from $499, and all the individual VSTs are half price or lower... I've got the trial downloaded but I haven't tried it yet though Decapitator is supposed to be pretty great. Thought someone might be tempted to give these a go at these prices.
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AAS also has 50% off everything https://www.applied-acoustics.com/modeling-collection/#buy
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I don't really have any dedicated effects \ mixing VSTs at all and usually just use the ableton ones (but I have a fuckload of synths and samples). I'm thinking of buying Soundtoys 5 and Waves Gold which is only $199. Will this have me basically covered for fx, or are there better ways to blow $500 this Black Friday?
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Waves are offering a free copy of TrueVerb for Black Friday (but also today). http://www.waves.com/lpn/black-friday-2015/free-plugin
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RobattoJesus posted:I don't really have any dedicated effects \ mixing VSTs at all and usually just use the ableton ones (but I have a fuckload of synths and samples). I'm thinking of buying Soundtoys 5 and Waves Gold which is only $199. Will this have me basically covered for fx, or are there better ways to blow $500 this Black Friday? Do you already have Komplete or Komplete Ultimate? Might look into them if not, it's crazy value for the money.
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RobattoJesus posted:Waves Gold which is only $199. E: If I install this free TrueVerb, will it require the pc to be on line (regularly?) for activation? Flipperwaldt fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Nov 26, 2015 |
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Trig Discipline posted:Do you already have Komplete or Komplete Ultimate? Might look into them if not, it's crazy value for the money. Yeah I have komplete ultimate 10 and I love it to bits, but it seems a bit light on fx so I was hoping to use Black Friday to fill in the gaps.
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Flipperwaldt posted:I just gave my email address for the free TrueVerb and it sent me to a page with coupon codes for, among others, Waves Gold at $169. Probably not. I use (and loving love) Kramer Master Tape and Kramer HLS and it's been a one time only activation thing, with transferring the license to a new computer only requiring an email and 24 hours since I forgot to put it on a USB stick before wiping my old system.
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RobattoJesus posted:Yeah I have komplete ultimate 10 and I love it to bits, but it seems a bit light on fx so I was hoping to use Black Friday to fill in the gaps. Rightyo Speaking of VSTs, some band I've never heard of developed an effect for their new album which is now out as a VST/AU and it's pretty fun. Description here: http://www.kvraudio.com/news/polyve...c-and-win-31718 Demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDH1m-ck6cA It's $39 now while it's in beta, will be $99 starting Jan. 1. Supposedly buying in now comes with free upgrades for life. I grabbed it out of curiosity, and it's actually pretty fun to dick around with. My only complaint is the stupid loving name.
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A Winner is Jew posted:Probably not. I was just lamenting how the (free) reverbs I have weren't all that spectacular, so this is super. I remember TrueVerb being pretty good from the time there wasn't a piece of software on my computer that wasn't stolen or hacked. But I just got sick of all the malware. So I'll be glad to reacquaint now.
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Flipperwaldt posted:I remember TrueVerb being pretty good from the time there wasn't a piece of software on my computer that wasn't stolen or hacked. But I just got sick of all the malware. So I'll be glad to reacquaint now. I slowly went from everything on my system being pirated to nothing being pirated as I started making more money. When I started in computer audio fuckery, I worked at Wal Mart and couldn't even afford the $50 for Audiomulch. Now I probably drop over a grand a year on audio software, and I probably wouldn't even have the skills or interest if it hadn't been for pirated audio software. I'm not seeking to make any grand statements about piracy, but at least in my case the industry has gotten many thousands of dollars that they probably never would have had if it weren't for Radium, Oxygen, and the like.
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Side note: Holy poo poo Audiomulch still exists.
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Trig Discipline posted:Side note: Holy poo poo Audiomulch still exists.
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No joke, looking at one of the demo videos gave me a hankering to go mulching again. Been a while.
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Trig Discipline posted:No joke, looking at one of the demo videos gave me a hankering to go mulching again. Been a while.
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For those living under a rock (such as myself), NI is having a softsynth sale. For those in the know, should I go full ham and buy Massive ($100), or can I skate by on Razor ($50)? Really, I'm looking for something a little different that ableton's Operator when it comes to additive synthesis.
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They're two different things. Massive is a great and fairly straightforward wavetable synth. It was a real step up in quality from the competition at the time it was released, but there are more options nowadays. It still has some features that set it apart, like the feedback routing and some unique filters. Razor is a true additive synth, everything except the rightmost section is just operations on partials. Because of that it has a number of quite unusual "oscillators" and "filters" as well as some simulations of more normal ones. If you mostly use presets I think there are some preset demos for both on Youtube. I like using Razor more these days but they are both versatile synths worth the money. I should also mention that Razor runs in Reaktor. You can use Reaktor Player if you don't own Reaktor, but I can't say whether there are any quirks with that since I do own Reaktor myself. breaks fucked around with this message at 06:23 on Nov 27, 2015 |
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free trueverb! Also, really really loving the Kontrol integration for the arturia plugins. NI is running 50% on all Maschine expansions. Will be grabbing a few.
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Just FYI, if you're running anything older than, I think, OSX 10.10, you're poo poo out of luck for TrueVerb. Waves Central (because OF COURSE THERE'S SOMETHING LIKE THIS) doesn't work on older OS's. 
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I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on Decapitator and maybe EchoBoy while the sale is on. Is it worth the extra money to buy the while Soundtoys bundle? I've heard great things about Decapitator and EchoBoy, but almost nothing about their other effects.
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Splinter posted:I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on Decapitator and maybe EchoBoy while the sale is on. Is it worth the extra money to buy the while Soundtoys bundle? I've heard great things about Decapitator and EchoBoy, but almost nothing about their other effects. You can download the entire suite of the Soundtoys plugins as a demo for 30 days so give em a go  EDIT: I downloaded it the other night (~800mb) and I'm going to install it and give it a play this weekend before the sale ends. EDIT 2: I bought a new guitar today in the Black Friday sales so I'm really hoping all the Soundtoys are poo poo... FlowerOfInfinity fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Nov 27, 2015 |
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Splinter posted:I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on Decapitator and maybe EchoBoy while the sale is on. Is it worth the extra money to buy the while Soundtoys bundle? I've heard great things about Decapitator and EchoBoy, but almost nothing about their other effects. I use at minimum 5 or 6 of their effects daily for sound design work. Can't speak to their general usefulness for music production but they are, generally speaking, some of the best sounding and most straightforward plugins out there.
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Splinter posted:I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on Decapitator and maybe EchoBoy while the sale is on. Is it worth the extra money to buy the while Soundtoys bundle? I've heard great things about Decapitator and EchoBoy, but almost nothing about their other effects. EDIT: I will say, though, that Waves is selling H-Delay now for $49 US I think? I use that plugin on every drat thing I do; love it. Get it if ya don't got it. I will note that I haven't updated to their new licensing software yet. Afraid to activate my free TrueVerb because of it; you can't get the free plugin without upgrading your License Center to their new thing. Radiapathy fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Nov 27, 2015 |
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The Waves license center installer correctly asked for admin privileges on my pc, then gave me a shitload of error messages about poo poo it failed to write to disk and registry. And then apparently it still got installed well enough to install and activate TrueVerb. Get your poo poo together assholes, jesus,  . Not logging in as administrator by default isn't some nutjob edge case. Or it shouldn't be, at the very least, drat.TrueVerb sounds great, worth the minor hassle.
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