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JT Jag posted:Win more votes in general elections? Maybe. My money is on them winning a Presidential election due to a bad economy during an election year or just low overall voter turnout from frustration with a deadlocked government (which tends to work in the Republicans favor) before Democrats getting both houses of Congress back. Demographic shifts are in the Democrats favor, but it doesn't mean that the Republicans are out of the game.
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tehllama posted:Probably everyone should read "On Various Kinds of Thinking" by James Robinson: Am I supposed to agree with this, or nod my head at this freshly revealed, sage wisdom? Because the Baptist missionary in this story sounds like they need to have the contradiction pointed out and reconciled. I've read recently, maybe here or elsewhere, that humans don't have to be perfectly consistent in their beliefs. And frankly, I think that's ludicrous. If you have two contradictory beliefs, then you should reconcile them and change one or the other.
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Inferior Third Season posted:Republicans are only having troubles winning the presidency. They are still dominating state and local elections, and there is no real danger of them losing Congress any time soon. This is especially highlighted because of Republicans' efforts on voter suppression. It's a lot harder for a poor person working two jobs to get time off to vote and time to find some approved form of ID than it is for a retiree.
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AmiYumi posted:Did they just delete this off Facebook entirely? I wanted to see the comments shitshow and I can't find it. If it helps, the article was posted in August, so you might have to scroll for a while.
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Fried Chicken posted:Or people here have a better understanding of the issue and see your comments for the foolishness they are So, I've seen several posts made by you, in the past, talking about how conservative ideology, and aspects of it, are actively harmful. I don't really understand why it is that you are being an apologist for it now. Also, again, I'm glad you can glean absolutely everything about what I know and understand from a few low effort posts about Republicans. People on this forum, and elsewhere, have been claiming that any day now Republicans are going to get all introspective and change their views, since 2008. Then, 2010 happened. They keep doubling down and they keep winning, over and over. I never intended to talk about classical conservatism, or whatever it is you're so passionately defending by calling me a moron. I'm not bragging about understanding the larger forces at work and all that. I just said I've read about them and I understand them. I just happen to have a different view of modern American conservatives and their ideology, as well as Republicans, than you, I guess. Also, I generally like to talk about the actual real end results of an ideology rather than whether or not it's theoretically correct. But, it's cool, if I just understood conservatism I would surely not dislike it, at all. Conservatism can't fail, only be failed. Right?
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Look at this nonsense. Our Divider in Chief can't even settle for a single protein at his شكرgiving dinner! smh, Obama. s. m. d. h.
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What kind of barbarians don't serve both turkey and ham?
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A Winner is Jew posted:It's also an established fact that truth has a liberal bias which means democrats don't have to lie nearly as much as republicans to win over liberal voters.
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SedanChair posted:What kind of barbarians don't serve both turkey and ham? Save the ham for Christmas.
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Also, six pies? You really needed both banana and coconut cream? C'mon, Obama!
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Joementum posted:Look at this nonsense. Our Divider in Chief can't even settle for a single protein at his شكرgiving dinner! Lookit all that liberal fancy Marie Antoinette food. I eat Armour turkey out of a can.
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SedanChair posted:What kind of barbarians don't serve both turkey and ham? Jews?
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Noam Chomsky posted:So, I've seen several posts made by you, in the past, talking about how conservative ideology, and aspects of it, are actively harmful. I don't really understand why it is that you are being an apologist for it now. As I recall, there's solid evidence that on this level, people don't change their opinions; they simply die. We'd still be using leeches if the generation that first confronted germ theory didn't die off to be replaced by a generation that was interested in using new ideas to solve problems. I actually hope it's a very long time until we find a way to become immortal. I'm literally glad to die if it means whatever stupid entrenched ideas my generation has and refuses to examine die with me.
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Noam Chomsky posted:So, I've seen several posts made by you, in the past, talking about how conservative ideology, and aspects of it, are actively harmful. I don't really understand why it is that you are being an apologist for it now. This is why people are calling you out, dude: you are taking this way too personally. You made some hyperbolic comments about conservatism and, instead of just moving on, you keep doubling down on this persecution complex.
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Sometimes, when Hillary is watching the sportsball she will yell at the screen, but not regularly. She's just like us, but with the cautious temperament to lead! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXounWx4InY
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Joementum posted:Look at this nonsense. Our Divider in Chief can't even settle for a single protein at his شكرgiving dinner! I always suspected that Joe doesn't really know how to party, but this confirms it All of the food, keep adding proteins until you run out of space on the table, then add a new table
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JT Jag posted:The flipside being that while the truth has a liberal bias, the truth is rarely black and white and is often complex, and voters don't like complex things, and will often accept a comfortable lie over a disconcerting or hard to comprehend truth. So, why don't democrats lie a lot more to sell their ideas? What lies could we make up to sell some more liberal ideas to the types that like republicans?
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Joementum posted:Also, six pies? You really needed both banana and coconut cream? C'mon, Obama! At least replace one of those for a lemon meringue. Also Mac and Cheese for thanksgiving?
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Hodgepodge posted:As I recall, there's solid evidence that on this level, people don't change their opinions; they simply die. That can't be entirely true. I've read that facts and evidence don't usually make people change their minds - in fact, they usually harden people into their existing opinions. But something changes minds. The death/birth rates haven't been enough to explain the dramatic shift on something like same sex marriage from 2004-2014.
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Hellblazer187 posted:So, why don't democrats lie a lot more to sell their ideas? What lies could we make up to sell some more liberal ideas to the types that like republicans? Wow, look at this guy. Typical ivory tower LIEberal. 
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Stretch Marx posted:At least replace one of those for a lemon meringue. A proper macaroni and cheese is rich and fancy as gently caress However realistically this is a, "and there will be small children here serve this if you don't want them crying" concession
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SedanChair posted:What kind of barbarians don't serve both turkey and ham? Muslims of course. Stretch Marx posted:Also Mac and Cheese for thanksgiving? What kind of heathen doesn't have mac and cheese for thanksgiving? Proust Malone fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Nov 26, 2015 |
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Epic High Five posted:A proper macaroni and cheese is rich and fancy as gently caress Oh I know. Actual mac and cheese with bread crumbs is fantastic. I'm just amazed they couldn't find anything out of all that regular thanksgiving stuff to feed kids so they opted for mac and cheese.
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A Winner is Jew posted:Wow, look at this guy. I'd really like to be a Demon-Rat I wonder what powers I'd get.
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Ron Jeremy posted:Muslims of course. Look at Obama, serving up that taqiyya ham.
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Hellblazer187 posted:That can't be entirely true. I've read that facts and evidence don't usually make people change their minds - in fact, they usually harden people into their existing opinions. But something changes minds. The death/birth rates haven't been enough to explain the dramatic shift on something like same sex marriage from 2004-2014. That is true, but on the other hand that shift didn't suddenly happen in 2004, and was a battle fought over entire generations. So minds may have changed less than things like willingness to state one's opinion as certain opinions became more socially acceptable. Also, that shift does in fact coincide with people with hard homophobic stances dying off and not being replaced so it may actually fit the my position quite well.
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Hellblazer187 posted:I'd really like to be a Demon-Rat I wonder what powers I'd get. According to this documentary they seem to be a minor inconvenience at most.
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Noam Chomsky posted:So, I've seen several posts made by you, in the past, talking about how conservative ideology, and aspects of it, are actively harmful. I don't really understand why it is that you are being an apologist for it now. quote:Also, again, I'm glad you can glean absolutely everything about what I know and understand from a few low effort posts about Republicans. quote:People on this forum, and elsewhere, have been claiming that any day now Republicans are going to get all introspective and change their views, since 2008. Then, 2010 happened. They keep doubling down and they keep winning, over and over. quote:I'm not bragging about understanding the larger forces at work and all that. I just said I've read about them and I understand them. quote:I just happen to have a different view of modern American conservatives and their ideology, as well as Republicans, than you, I guess. Also, I generally like to talk about the actual real end results of an ideology rather than whether or not it's theoretically correct.
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Stretch Marx posted:Oh I know. Actual mac and cheese with bread crumbs is fantastic. I'm just amazed they couldn't find anything out of all that regular thanksgiving stuff to feed kids so they opted for mac and cheese. Yeah mac and cheese with a stick of butter and a quart of heavy cream is so loving good but so incredibly unhealthy that I really only make it for thanksgiving.
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Stretch Marx posted:Oh I know. Actual mac and cheese with bread crumbs is fantastic. I'm just amazed they couldn't find anything out of all that regular thanksgiving stuff to feed kids so they opted for mac and cheese. Pro tip: a little bit of truffle oil goes a long way to making your mac & cheese even more amazing
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Fried Chicken posted:Pro tip: a little bit of truffle oil goes a long way to making your mac & cheese even more amazing That feels arriviste to me.
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Fried Chicken posted:Pro tip: a little bit of truffle oil goes a long way to making your mac & cheese even more amazing White or black truffle oil?
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Plus you never have to worry about there being mac and cheese left over or passed over, even if it's lovely. People love some mac and cheeseFAUXTON posted:White or black truffle oil? #AllTruffleOilsMatter
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/11/26/trump-blasted-mocking-disabled-reporter/76409418/ trumps a nice man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNocmPffX4c&feature=youtu.be&t=2808 Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Nov 26, 2015 |
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He's a reporter, he had it coming. -Any persons who would have been supporting him anyway, plus about 5%
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Luigi Thirty posted:Lookit all that liberal fancy Marie Antoinette food. I eat Armour turkey out of a can. check out mr. high roller over here. i'm going to go forage for acorns and defeat any squirrels that may fight me
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I wonder if there is even a gaffe that would affect Trump's numbers. We've already seen what doesn't: -adopt Democratic policies? nope -support dem politicians including Clinton? nope -adopt nazi policies? nope -make fun of a disabled man's contractures? what do you loving think
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SedanChair posted:I wonder if there is even a gaffe that would affect Trump's numbers. We've already seen what doesn't:
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JT Jag posted:Be caught on film with a live boy or dead girl "He's just doing what everyone else is afraid to do! I love that about Trump... he *goes there* when nobody else will!"
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Franco Potente posted:This is why people are calling you out, dude: you are taking this way too personally. You made some hyperbolic comments about conservatism and, instead of just moving on, you keep doubling down on this persecution complex. He's right. D&D just argues like garbage so what else can he respond with.
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