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Cry Havoc posted:i will enjoy this movie if: They should make use of eye-tracking technology and have a sheep explode whenever enough members of the audience looked at it repeatedly.
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Would it be fair to say that Diablo 3's biggest issue was the auction house? I've never played D3 but that always seemed like a colossally bad idea.
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Nov 26, 2015 23:14
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Red Mundus posted:Would it be fair to say that Diablo 3's biggest issue was the auction house? I've never played D3 but that always seemed like a colossally bad idea. I didn't play long enough for that to come into play, but I heard literally everyone in the world complaining about how it affected the loot system and Blizzard eventually dropped it, so probably.
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Nov 26, 2015 23:16
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Red Mundus posted:Would it be fair to say that Diablo 3's biggest issue was the auction house? I've never played D3 but that always seemed like a colossally bad idea. At launch, yes almost certainly.
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Nov 26, 2015 23:19
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The drop system was awful, so the entire game became the auction house. AH prices inflated ludicrously so that if you were not an auction shark the game was worthless.
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Nov 26, 2015 23:26
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Red Mundus posted:Would it be fair to say that Diablo 3's biggest issue was the auction house? I've never played D3 but that always seemed like a colossally bad idea. a goon got like 5 figures off that then wasted it on drugs, boys, and trips.
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Nov 26, 2015 23:27
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In the second half of the movie they should retcon the first half. Some guy can say "you don't understand, what actually happened is this...."
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Nov 27, 2015 05:06
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Lurdiak posted:Long ago I swore an oath to not get hooked on Diablo 2 again. Whenever I get the urge to mow down waves of mobs with an army of skeletons, I remember maggot lair and arcane sanctuary.
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Nov 27, 2015 08:50
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Med School posted:In the second half of the movie they should retcon the first half. Some guy can say "you don't understand, what actually happened is this...." They actually needed to do this with the first two games because in both of them the two storylines were contradictory: one had the alliance winning and the other had the horde winning. In Beyond the Dark Portal they didn't contradict but confusingly took place at the same time, so they only made sense if you compared the two storyline progressions.
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Nov 27, 2015 15:16
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I always thought it would be cooler (and more creative) of the writers to just make up some new awesome stuff that happens. Why do you have to change and devalue everything your audience already experienced. Comic books and Manga do this too and it pisses me off. Looking at you X Men and Naruto
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Nov 27, 2015 16:19
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because they're dumb shits that don't understand why people like their stuff or what made it interesting to begin with (see SC2, and diablo 3, and wow, the star wars prequels,)
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Nov 27, 2015 17:23
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If you guys keep going you'll attract one of those awful posters who thinks continuity is bad and thinks it's "dope" when creators can't remember what happened in their own work.
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Nov 27, 2015 17:24
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oh i also forgot to list that games workshop retconned their coolest thing too (ollanius pius in 40k, they also ruined the necron but they weren't the coolest) so warcraft is in good company.
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Nov 27, 2015 17:26
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also if someone named leeroy has some chicken
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Nov 27, 2015 18:55
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Med School posted:I always thought it would be cooler (and more creative) of the writers to just make up some new awesome stuff that happens. Why do you have to change and devalue everything your audience already experienced. Almost any shared fantasy universe that is a corporate peice of Intellectual Property and not controlled by some original creator -- whether it's a comic book, a movie series, video games, a tabletop game setting, -- tends to get shittier and shittier as it becomes more convoluted and stupid, and as any original badassess gets overwhelmed by dumb fan service stuff. I honestly think the only solution would be to just not make every game have to be part of some epic and ever growing backstory. Warcraft and Diablo were fun simple little games. After a sequel or two Blizzard should have just moved on to a totally new universe and storyline.
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Nov 27, 2015 19:22
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yeah but slapping the name call of duty on there rather than generic military shooter means more sales$$$$$
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Cry Havoc posted:yeah but slapping the name call of duty on there rather than generic military shooter means more sales$$$$$ That doesn't mean it has to follow continuity though. Like the Resident Evil movies.
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Nov 27, 2015 19:57
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With each one more violently determined to ignore the last one.
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Nov 27, 2015 21:26
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Snowman_McK posted:With each one more violently determined to ignore the last one. It would be interesting to see whether the movies or the games have the more ridiculous storyline. I'm inclined to say the games but the movies sure caught up fast.
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Oh man, I forgot they were making this. I have a soft spot in my heart for cheesy fantasy. I like how all the orcs look like baby Hulks :3Lurdiak posted:If you guys keep going you'll attract one of those awful posters who thinks continuity is bad and thinks it's "dope" when creators can't remember what happened in their own work. Present! Canon relies on the audience's imagination to create (or deny) the connections across different authors, mediums, copyrights and publishing companies. It is dope when creators just go "I dunno, a wizard did it" because it's really funny Blood Boils fucked around with this message at 23:34 on Nov 27, 2015 |
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Nov 27, 2015 22:12
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Black Bones posted:Oh man, I forgot they were making this. I have a soft spot in my heart for cheesy fantasy. I like how all the orcs look like baby Hulks :3 Especially for a genre like RTSes where coming up with excuses for every group to fight every other group trumps just about everything else, which is why the "got zapped by a purple laser and is now evil" trope is so common in their games.
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Nov 28, 2015 02:16
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Black Bones posted:It is dope when creators just go "I dunno, a wizard did it" because it's really funny it is funny in the jesus christ how are they this bad kinda way. i don't know if that's a good or bad thing.
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Nov 28, 2015 02:50
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:It would be interesting to see whether the movies or the games have the more ridiculous storyline. I'm inclined to say the games but the movies sure caught up fast. The games got crazy because they're still trying to hold everything together in a coherent way. The movies gave up on that. Set a movie on a ship, blow up that ship in the next movie, never speak of it again.
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I still hate how those movies are weird matrix fanfic over stylized bad CG crapfests, because the simple b-movie homage plot of the first 3 games would have made for some perfectly enjoyable films if played straight.
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Nov 29, 2015 02:49
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Actually thats exactly why those movies own. If they were played straight they'd be complete garbage like every other similar movie including the Matrix
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Helsing posted:Queen of Blades is a strange title for someone who never, so far as I can tell, was ever seen holding or using a blade. I guess that "Queen of Weird Boney Spines" doesn't quite have the same cachet though. Blades are warriors or assassins in this context. The Queen of Blades is the Overmind's best killer. I like how it's a medieval sounding title used in a sci-fi setting. It's just a shame that Attack on Princess fucked around with this message at 10:47 on Dec 2, 2015 |
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Donnerberg posted:Blades are warriors or assassins in this context. The Queen of Blades is the Overmind's best killer. I like how it's a medieval sounding title used in a sci-fi setting. I'm playing Heart of the Swarm at the moment, and yeah, all of the Zerg being anthropomorphic (or all the characters you talk to) is just weird. I miss taking orders from huge maggots and a giant eyeball.
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I am looking forward to the movie. It doesn't match the aesthetic of the LOTR movies but nothing does.
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Donnerberg posted:Blades are warriors or assassins in this context. The Queen of Blades is the Overmind's best killer. I like how it's a medieval sounding title used in a sci-fi setting. I'm kinda taking a shot in the dark here because I don't know very much about the plot of either the post-2003 Warcraft universe nor the post-1998 Starcraft universe but based on what I've heard it sure sounds like the metaplots of both stories basically became the same poo poo. I assume this happened to Diablo as well because having the same hack writer for 20 years working on every game probably means you're gonna get the same story being recycled endlessly. Snowman_McK posted:I'm playing Heart of the Swarm at the moment, and yeah, all of the Zerg being anthropomorphic (or all the characters you talk to) is just weird. I miss taking orders from huge maggots and a giant eyeball. I think they had to get rid of the cerebrates and Overmind because of a legal dispute with Games Workshop, who correctly understood that the Zerg are basically a massive rip off of the Tyranids. It's bullshit, of course, because everything in the Games Workshop universe is directly ripped off from Michael Moorcock, Dune, Tolkien, Aliens and Terminator.
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Safe to say no one plays Blizzard games for the stories anymore.
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zVxTeflon posted:Actually thats exactly why those movies own. If they were played straight they'd be complete garbage like every other similar movie including the Matrix if they were actually trying to be the games they'd have no matrix elements whatsoever.
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The MSJ posted:Safe to say no one plays Blizzard games for the stories anymore. i think anyone who could write even half decently at blizzard left after diablo 2.
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Lurdiak posted:if they were actually trying to be the games they arent
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The MSJ posted:Safe to say no one plays Blizzard games for the stories anymore. WoW's got enough stuff going on that it frequently has decent side-stories (by the standard of gaming), or small sections of the main story. The Arrakoa stuff in the recent expansion was pretty good, despite the overall story being a dumb alt-universe time-travel thing written by people who were hell-bent on ignoring anything interesting that could lead to.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:WoW's got enough stuff going on that it frequently has decent side-stories (by the standard of gaming), or small sections of the main story. The Arrakoa stuff in the recent expansion was pretty good, despite the overall story being a dumb alt-universe time-travel thing written by people who were hell-bent on ignoring anything interesting that could lead to. This is true of lots of big fantasy universes. There's so much stuff that they luck onto a good idea every now and then. Like WH40k with the space ork's technology.
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Helsing posted:I'm kinda taking a shot in the dark here because I don't know very much about the plot of either the post-2003 Warcraft universe nor the post-1998 Starcraft universe but based on what I've heard it sure sounds like the metaplots of both stories basically became the same poo poo. I assume this happened to Diablo as well because having the same hack writer for 20 years working on every game probably means you're gonna get the same story being recycled endlessly. Also after Starcraft got big they went back and retconed the Tyranids from being bug people to shameless copies of the Zerg so it's just one big incestuous feedback loop.
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Snowman_McK posted:This is true of lots of big fantasy universes. There's so much stuff that they luck onto a good idea every now and then. Like WH40k with the space ork's technology. surprised they aint retconned the ork tech thing since they've retconned everything good in that universe.
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zVxTeflon posted:they arent Right, thus your comment did not apply to my comment. 
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Groovelord Neato posted:surprised they aint retconned the ork tech thing since they've retconned everything good in that universe. They've actually made an active effort to do just that, iirc, its just that loving with orks appears to be the one thing 40k fans will actually start poo poo over.
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Snowman_McK posted:This is true of lots of big fantasy universes. There's so much stuff that they luck onto a good idea every now and then. Like WH40k with the space ork's technology. Definitely, it just ends up being a bit more noticeable with Warcraft (compared to Diablo or Starcraft) because of the sheer volume of content.
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