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Can you guys tell me more about the protests all around the country? Any more photos or important speeches? What is the police response?
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caberham posted:Can you guys tell me more about the protests all around the country? Any more photos or important speeches? What is the police response? Protests about what? There's been on-going organized marches and demonstrations about nuclear power since Fukushima. I'm sure those same people are protesting Article 9 stuff since Abe started talking about changing that. A certain segment of the Japanese population loves orderly marching on <insert political or social topic> so you're going to have to be more specific. Usually there's police blocking traffic for the marchers along the route. It's not really adversarial, but who knows, there may be some big news I've missed in the month I've been back home visiting family.
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Aug 31, 2015 03:36
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ErIog posted:Protests about what? There's been on-going organized marches and demonstrations about nuclear power since Fukushima. I'm sure those same people are protesting Article 9 stuff since Abe started talking about changing that. Lol. http://www.japantoday.com/category/politics/view/120000-protest-against-security-bills-outside-diet
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Aug 31, 2015 04:04
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mystes posted:For some reason, even though Hashimoto is totally really getting out of politics like he promised, he's now starting a new political party. He's totally going to say people demanded he stay and back out of that promise to quit. Edit: Posting this on request 
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Aug 31, 2015 04:13
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ErIog posted:Protests about what? There's been on-going organized marches and demonstrations about nuclear power since Fukushima. I'm sure those same people are protesting Article 9 stuff since Abe started talking about changing that. Hahaha
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Aug 31, 2015 06:03
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ErIog posted:Protests about what? There's been on-going organized marches and demonstrations about nuclear power since Fukushima. I'm sure those same people are protesting Article 9 stuff since Abe started talking about changing that. I always mix up you with kapalama sorry
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Aug 31, 2015 08:09
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caberham posted:I always mix up you with kapalama sorry Oh poo poo, lol, I leave the country for a few weeks and crazy news happens.
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Aug 31, 2015 14:41
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http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/09/17/national/politics-diplomacy/opposition-parties-delaying-tactics-throw-diet-chaos/ Well, after some spirited 'discussion', Abe's security bills finally made it through the Diet. Does anyone think the passage of this week's legislation will have any tangible impact on voter faith in the ruling bloc?
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Sep 17, 2015 12:53
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Yeah maybe they'll vote for the DPJ again without even blaming the first unprecedented natural/nuclear disaster that happens on said party that hadn't seen power for decades! *cue laugh track*
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Sep 17, 2015 18:12
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Mercury_Storm posted:Yeah maybe they'll vote for the DPJ again without even blaming the first unprecedented natural/nuclear disaster that happens on said party that hadn't seen power for decades! There was a story in Reuters about how unpopular Abe is now, but I suppose there's not really anyone else for people to vote for.
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Sep 17, 2015 20:58
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Abe may be unpopular but with the largest newspaper behind him and the complete lack of any LDP successors I think he'll be fine.
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Oct 3, 2015 20:44
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/26/yakuza-gang-cancels-childrens-halloween-event-for-fear-of-violence Thought I was reading the Onion for a minute
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Oct 26, 2015 13:42
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Japan targets boosting birthrate to increase growthquote:However, others warn the government has fallen so far behind on the population issue that it will be difficult to raise economic growth without opening up to large-scale immigration.
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Nov 13, 2015 08:27
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Kenishi posted:Japan targets boosting birthrate to increase growth Yeah, and it's worth noting that the specific number chosen by Abe for his new plan is a pretty blatant war time dog whistle to boot. His plans for a higher birth rate are biologically impossible at this point. The one thing about Japan that exacerbates the entire situation is the fact that people just aren't getting married the way they used to. The birth rate among married women is the same as it ever was. The problem is that the marriage rate has fallen substantially, and Japan has zero support or collective understanding for children born to single parents. Abe is living in a fantasy land, and I'm really not sure what his real objectives are. All of his proclamations on this issue are going to crumble. Between the G* conference at Ise, his new 3 arrows, Womenomics, and his call for a higher birthrate.. he's creating a loving lot of trouble for whoever becomes the next prime minister. He's gonna be termed out in a few years, and these are all long term goals. There's a small chance the next prime minister could be DPJ, but lol, not loving likely. So he's basically salting the earth with bullshit to please his dead relatives.
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ErIog posted:He's gonna be termed out in a few years, and these are all long term goals.
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Nov 13, 2015 10:21
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Mr. Fix It posted:There are no term limits for the position of prime minister. None for President of the LDP either, afaik. Do I just remember wrong or was there a time in the 2000s when Japan replaced their prime minister every year, almost to the day? What happened there?
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Ya, a quick google seems to suggest there are no term limits for prime ministers, but I don't think anyone has ever made it past 3 consecutive ones. I think this is technically Abe's 3rd term though, I haven't been keeping count but he was in office back in the early 2000s.ErIog posted:His plans for a higher birth rate are biologically impossible at this point. The one thing about Japan that exacerbates the entire situation is the fact that people just aren't getting married the way they used to. The birth rate among married women is the same as it ever was. The problem is that the marriage rate has fallen substantially, and Japan has zero support or collective understanding for children born to single parents. Some people don't have the time to find someone to marry. For women that do have the time to do that, some don't want to get married because it tends to destroy their career. The family tax issue is sometimes mentioned, which forces women to take up only part time work, but there's also the 'matahara' (or what ever the new slang is for it) that tends to drive women out of the workforce. Get all that fixed and then you have money issues to deal with. Kids are expensive. Japan, in rightful 1st-world-country fashion, is getting more and more expensive (Thanks Abe!) for most people and salaries aren't budging all that much. So there is that need for two incomes in households, but see the problems women have, above. Those women that CAN work, then have to deal with trying to find that elusive daycare. I'm not sure they could have created a more 'perfect storm' of issues that cause their population crisis. Some of these things they could have started tackling back in 2000 if they had the foresight to do so. The best thing that could happen is if Abe, when he decides to retire from politics, gets a bill pushed through that vastly overhauls the immigration system so that pretty much anyone can come to Japan. As an example, they could relax the requirements on most of the working visas so they don't require any experience to get one, just a job offer from a company willing to sponsor you. Relaxing/Overhauling the immigration system will probably be political suicide for any conservative PM so it'll have to be something that occurs when they are peacing out or when there's a shift of power. ArchangeI posted:Do I just remember wrong or was there a time in the 2000s when Japan replaced their prime minister every year, almost to the day? What happened there?
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Mr. Fix It posted:There are no term limits for the position of prime minister. None for President of the LDP either, afaik. Did something change then? LDP has a term limit of 2 3-year terms for a maximum of six years. edit: LDP bylaws still say the President of the LDP is limited to 2, three year terms: https://www.jimin.jp/english/about-ldp/constitution/104216.html Yeah, this leaves out some sort of, "there's no rule that says a donkey can't play baseball," kind of thing where Abe remains PM while not being LDP president, but let's be real. ErIog fucked around with this message at 11:19 on Nov 13, 2015 |
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Nov 13, 2015 11:13
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Taking a look at their party constitution. It merely states that a president has a limit of 2 consecutive terms, which seems to suggest that an LDP president could step down and then let someone else become president and then come back on the next election cycle and run again.
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Nov 13, 2015 12:37
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Kenishi posted:Taking a look at their party constitution. It merely states that a president has a limit of 2 consecutive terms, which seems to suggest that an LDP president could step down and then let someone else become president and then come back on the next election cycle and run again. So your contention is that you think Abe is going to be termed out then come back later as prime minister yet again? Like, I understand the part where that's technically a possibility, but he's still gonna be termed out. If past is prologue someone will replace him, and he'll go on to do something cushy somewhere more lucrative.
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Nov 13, 2015 12:42
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ErIog posted:So your contention is that you think Abe is going to be termed out then come back later as prime minister yet again? He's saying it's possible.
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Nov 13, 2015 13:08
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I don't understand. If there was a consensus on reappointing Abe, why wouldn't they just revise the bylaws?
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Nov 13, 2015 13:38
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ErIog posted:So your contention is that you think Abe is going to be termed out then come back later as prime minister yet again? mystes posted:I don't understand. If there was a consensus on reappointing Abe, why wouldn't they just revise the bylaws?
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Nov 13, 2015 14:27
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So at what point do Japan's demographics start enough of a freefall to either force the government to actually fix things, or for the country to go full on Mad Max? I take it Japan has already hit the point of no possible growth economically, I feel like this can't go on much longer. 5 years, 15, more?
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Nov 26, 2015 15:17
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I am not sure if you can accurately predict how long they can shuffle towards oblivion. What you can predict though is that they will hit Mad Max before they actually try to fix it.
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Nov 26, 2015 15:47
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icantfindaname posted:So at what point do Japan's demographics start enough of a freefall to either force the government to actually fix things, or for the country to go full on Mad Max? I take it Japan has already hit the point of no possible growth economically, I feel like this can't go on much longer. 5 years, 15, more? It would be more of a Children of Men scenario when you think about it.
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Nov 26, 2015 23:26
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icantfindaname posted:So at what point do Japan's demographics start enough of a freefall to either force the government to actually fix things, or for the country to go full on Mad Max? I take it Japan has already hit the point of no possible growth economically, I feel like this can't go on much longer. 5 years, 15, more? When you consider that the Japanese in part consider "Japan" to be the collection of people with ancestry in Japan going back a couple thousand years (regardless of the truth of that belief), and not just the mass of land itself, it's obvious why immigration is a non-starter: it does nothing to solve the "problem" of Japanese not having enough kids. The Japanese will never open up to immigration in any way that would meaningfully affect demographics.
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Nov 27, 2015 14:31
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In my experience, Japan's economic issues have very little to do with demographics and are much more due to insularity and the vested interests that have been able to accrue from the lack of better alternatives.
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Nov 27, 2015 14:40
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Pressuring half of the population to get educated in order to work for a year and then spend the rest of your life in the kitchen can't be helping anything. I've also seen the point made that maybe stagnation isn't such a bad thing. Japan's economy has been basically stagnant for 25 years now? And it still has a great standard of living. Plenty of countries would kill to have an economy as bad as Japan.
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Nov 27, 2015 14:47
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Poverty and inequality is getting worse, especially for the increasing numbers of single mothers. It's not like stagnation is keeping things equal they are getting worse.
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Nov 27, 2015 14:50
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Plenty of countries would kill to have an economy as bad as Greece's too, if that's your point. Frankly I don't see why Japan should have the worlds 3rd largest economy, but I also suspect that continued shrinkage will result in a loss of the egalitarianism that makes Japan such a good place to live. efb
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Nov 27, 2015 15:04
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I just wonder if it's really as bad as it's always portrayed. I feel like I've been reading about Japan's economic disaster and imminent collapse for 20 years now and nothing seems to be happening. Maybe this is dumb but it seems like if the country is growing, the economy has to grow to keep up with the standard of living. But if your country is stagnant or shrinking, do you need economic growth to keep the current level of prosperity? I'm not making an argument, I don't know.
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Nov 27, 2015 15:17
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More people are getting poor because taxes are continuing to rise unlike wages, financial assistance is increasing to more and more needy, there are more single parent families with increasing poverty in them because women have less options, there aren't enough workers and no plans to increase immigration, child care is an enormous burden etc etc many signs like this post to a drastic lowering in the quality of life for many.
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Nov 27, 2015 15:25
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Frankly a lot of people here are wondering that. Japan is a weird country and can turn on a dime so who knows.
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Nov 27, 2015 15:26
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hadji murad posted:there aren't enough workers
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Nov 27, 2015 15:41
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Kilroy posted:For which jobs? I'm not seeing that, and in fact I'm leaving Japan because the job market here for what I do is terrible. Nursing home workers.
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Nov 27, 2015 15:52
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What I've seen says its jobs overall. Probably lots of service, the aforementioned health and labour. Certainly there is a lot of useless construction going on.
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Nov 27, 2015 16:17
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Grand Fromage posted:I just wonder if it's really as bad as it's always portrayed. I feel like I've been reading about Japan's economic disaster and imminent collapse for 20 years now and nothing seems to be happening. Japan hasn't actually literally been stagnant since 1990, they hosed up the response to the early 90s recession pretty bad but they did return to mild growth for a while in the late 90s and 2000s up to '08. Plus that's just GDP, incomes also continued rising faster than GDP growth for a while. 1990 is just when the US realized that they weren't magic Oriental supermen who were going to take over the world and the country dropped from the US consciousness to be replaced by bombing Arabs full-time icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Nov 27, 2015 |
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Nov 27, 2015 20:53
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That sounds like a gigantic load of orientalist bullshit to say "Japan is racist xenophobes."
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