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blackmarketlimb posted:Didn't Hanzee explicitly state that the reason he's so good at tracking was because of his tunnel rat status in Vietnam? I'd have to rewatch the episode, but I could swear he said that when he was monologing at Donny. i guess i didn't mention that yeah, it isn't super heavy-handed. like you say with his 'Nam story and everything, and also he's shown to be competent/clever in other ways. but imo the stereotype is not either rejected or subverted much at all, which in effect is a reinforcement of it, regardless of the author's intent i'm not trying to start a big derail here but this is how it's come across to my silly rear end
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I just realized there is another dog in the background on the couch to represent the howling wolf. This picture is magical.
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Nov 25, 2015 07:26
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Jethro. loving. Tull. That is all.
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This show is just incredible - even outside of the great story/acting/characters etc, it just looks utterly gorgeous. All those overhead shots of the forest when Bear was driving Simone, and later walking her through the trees.... goddamn.
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I hope season 3 is set in the 90's. Maybe a few of the characters are back, but mostly it's a new messed-up crime story. Hawley has like, the maximum amount of trust I can possibly have in someone, so I'm sure I'll enjoy whatever he comes up with when it hits in around 2 or 3 years. Gonna be a long wait  .
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My guess is Ed is calling both of them, hoping to get both sides dead in a shootout in Sioux Falls to solve all their problems. And my other guess is that it's all Peggy's idea.
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Chadzok posted:My guess is Ed is calling both of them, hoping to get both sides dead in a shootout in Sioux Falls to solve all their problems. Sounds like it could be right. Either way, some really bad poo poo is going down there. It's not like Lou is unaccustomed to violence; he's seen plenty of deaths this season already, so for Sioux Falls to stick out in his mind for the rest of his life must mean it's pretty awful.
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Another excellent episode. Whether it was intentional or not I liked how Mike just started spouting quotes after he got off the phone with Kansas City HQ. To me it came across as him trying to re-assert to himself that he is intelligent, kind of psyching himself up to get back into the game.
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Nov 25, 2015 13:27
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Yeah, this was the first time we saw Mike lose control and let his mask slip a little.
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When they first mentioned the possibility of the "Undertaker" being sent to replace Mike, I figured that this was probably a guy that we 'd get to see for a scene or two before he gets abruptly killed. It was interesting to see Mike sort of - kind of lose his cool, but I'd prefer it if he was left more... wounded by the encounter. Still, maybe they are again going for a/the less obvious character taking Mike out.
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People seem to think the Ed call was under duress from Dodd or Hanzee, like they're setting up an ambush for Mike or something, but I don't think that's the case. If Hanzee had caught up with Ed, Ed would probably be dead and Dodd would be back with the Gerhardts. I think Ed really does have Dodd, but I don't think he's going to make a trade-off without getting blood on his hands or without his plan (to get money to start a new life) going awry. I think if anything, Ed's going to somehow get caught up in Kansas City's crime operation, possibly getting approached by the higher-ups to actually replace Mike as their new enforcer. Maybe Ed is asked to kill Mike as his first "assignment" 
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King Vidiot posted:I think if anything, Ed's going to somehow get caught up in Kansas City's crime operation, possibly getting approached by the higher-ups to actually replace Mike as their new enforcer. Did the show ever mention how long Ed & Peggy have actually been together?
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Well I think I read some interview with that infamous "Iceman" enforcer, who said that criminal families often hire people off the street who show any kind of potential, and Ed's been dispatching guys handily and even disposed of a body. I just think that the idea of a hapless guy realizing how easy it is to do horrible things fits in with the Fargo universe. You had Jerry Lundegaard putting his wife at risk to collect kidnapping money, you had Lester Nygaard killing his wife in the heat of the moment and getting involved with an evil man, and now you have Ed Blumquist killing two members of a crime family and working with the enforcer of another. Ed is either going to turn out to have been "The Butcher" all along, a hapless guy who gets that label put on him by people who think he's a pro, or he'll turn pro by the end. Or one of the previous options and he'll die in the end. Ehud posted:Either that or Ed and Peggy are aliens and their home planet is called California. Ed gets abducted just before Mike arrives, Mike just finds an abandoned car with Dodd in the trunk. King Vidiot fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Nov 25, 2015 |
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I think it's as simple as: Ed and Peggy are holding Dodd in the hopes that they can make a deal for some kind of immunity from the Gerhardt family. "You give us your word that you won't hurt us and we'll give you Dodd." I don't think anyone is going to mistake Ed for a person deserving of the title, "The Butcher". I think the Gerhardts and KC mob will end up having their final showdown as the result of Ed's plan. So yeah, put me down for the obvious, straightforward ending. Either that or Ed and Peggy are aliens and their home planet is called California.
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Nov 25, 2015 16:55
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*non-nonchalantly walks into thread and suddenly stands faced with this post and stares wide eyed in stunned silence*
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*pretends to be stunned and shocked, doesn't get it*
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King Vidiot posted:*pretends to be stunned and shocked, doesn't get it* same e: this better not have anything to do with that drat cow painting Lutha Mahtin fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Nov 25, 2015 |
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Nov 25, 2015 20:15
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It was someone from the schadenfreude thread in PYF making a rough diagram on how skateboard trucks make a skateboard turn. Nothing to do with Fargo. The fact that people thought it had to do with the alien conspiracy on the show was probably the schadenfreude
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Nov 25, 2015 20:27
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Hot drat what an episode. Floyd is one of the best female characters I've ever seen on TV. That half smile as she ratted out the KC Mob.... 
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So is the Palaces of the Gods supposed to be a reference to Chariots of the Gods? (that would make a lot more sense than Khmer book which was written after the show takes place)
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Nov 26, 2015 06:17
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poo poo, I didn't even check when it was published. I'm looking forward to Ed & Peggy's side of the story next episode but I hope they don't pull a full Walking Dead and spend the whole ep with them. Can't wait for that Hank & Betsy scene.
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Unzip and Attack posted:Hot drat what an episode. Floyd is one of the best female characters I've ever seen on TV. That half smile as she ratted out the KC Mob.... I loved it when she says "I'm gonna smoke" then, instead of pulling out a pack of cigarettes, she pulls out a pipe and tobacco.
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This has to be Nick Offerman's best role. Karl Weathers was basically written for him.
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Jake Armitage posted:I have a strong feeling that Simone isn't dead. Not just because we never saw the deed or heard a gunshot, but because I think that scene was straight out of Miller's Crossing. I admit though its been 25 years since I saw Miller's Crossing so I could have the details all wrong. DivisionPost posted:Well, the story of Miller's Crossing is that John Tutorro pleads for Gabriel Byrne not to shoot him, he doesn't, but then Tutorro, genius he is, comes back to try and blackmail Byrne. So if they're taking that part of Miller's Crossing, it's a little late in the game (but certainly not impossible). I may have misheard this but on a Fargo podcast I think they mentioned that this episode also featured a cover of a song from that forest scene in Miller's Crossing. So it was definitely a deliberate reference even if it doesn't really confirm whether or not she really is dead. Also I just saw Miller's Crossing for the first time like 6 months ago and I love it. I really just wanted to tell you all that I'm in the "Have seen Miller's Crossing and am therefore cooler and more cultured than you" club.
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MullardEL34 posted:This has to be Nick Offerman's best role. Karl Weathers was basically written for him. He hasn't mentioned stew once. 
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MullardEL34 posted:This has to be Nick Offerman's best role. Karl Weathers was basically written for him. Ooooh, I completely missed his name in the show somehow, so every time people misspelled his name in this thread I thought they were talking about the actor and I was confused as to what the hell they were talking about because I knew he wasn't in the show.
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MullardEL34 posted:This has to be Nick Offerman's best role. Karl Weathers was basically written for him. I'm pleasantly surprised with Offerman's acting outside of Parks and Rec. He was good on Brooklyn 99 without being too over the top or repetitive in his humor and on Fargo he hasn't hammed it up at all. Solid delivery and solid acting in my opinion.
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Doltos posted:I'm pleasantly surprised with Offerman's acting outside of Parks and Rec. He was good on Brooklyn 99 without being too over the top or repetitive in his humor and on Fargo he hasn't hammed it up at all. Solid delivery and solid acting in my opinion. Yeah I like him in everything I've seen him in, or at a minimum have never actively disliked him even in the smaller roles I've seen him in in the past. I read his memoir as well, it's a pretty fine read and I recommend it to any Offerman fan.
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He was pretty entertaining in person as well, had a chance to see him talk here in Champaign IL where he went to school and the place was packed, and he hung out after for a while too. Seems like a cool dude.
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I just watched the movie Fargo and binged through the first season in two days. I enjoyed the movie enough but the season made me feel wanting. The first half of the season was definitely some of the most captivating television I've ever seen but then I just became more and more irritated with the show as the season crept to the end. The last couple episodes just kind of pissed me off. Maybe I just don't "get it" I don't know, and I can't really articulate what I'd have preferred. But I found nothing about the resolution really satisfying. Or the leadup to the resolution.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:The first half of the season was definitely some of the most captivating television I've ever seen but then I just became more and more irritated with the show as the season crept to the end. The last couple episodes just kind of pissed me off. Maybe I just don't "get it" I don't know, and I can't really articulate what I'd have preferred. But I found nothing about the resolution really satisfying. Or the leadup to the resolution. Interesting. Aside from some niggling I think most of us in the S1 thread were pretty pumped and satisfied with the conclusion. Some of the subplots (like the grocery store guy) didn't get rave reviews but generally (and for me personally) I thought the Malvo and Lester conclusions were pretty well done. If you can figure out what you didn't like, I'm sure some of us ITT would be interested in hearing about it.
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To me Malvo seemed to gradually transform from some kind of scary and mysterious otherworldly force into a gary-sue comic book villain who could literally do no wrong. His 'closing out' of the Fargo syndicate subplot by just murdering everyone in the building video game style was really unsatisfying. And the American Pheonix subplot was a total waste of time that led nowhere. Yeah I get it, Malvo is an rear end in a top hat who likes causing chaos for chaos sake. That was established when he ratted on the guy who pissed in the car's gas tank.
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S2 has been way more fun for me than S1. I just enjoy the characters and heck, the weather is so nice in the 70's in those parts. Rewatching the S2E1 and I want the third season to just be about Rye.
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Howling Man posted:S2 has been way more fun for me than S1. I just enjoy the characters and heck, the weather is so nice in the 70's in those parts. Fargo Season 3: Origins of a Belt Buckle. I wouldn't be surprised if they delve into the past of a character we see die in season 1 or 2 though.
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