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Evil Fluffy posted:As I said elsewhere, he's not referring to the shooting as the tragedy/terrorism taking place at the PP facility, he's referring to the abortion service PP provides. Hence him saying tragedy and not shooting, while focusing on the act as something that should be called terrorism, especially by the pro-life movement. No. You're reading into it. He uses tragedy because shooting implies gun violence
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He's sorrowful it happened but acknowledges the true victims here: prolifers.
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Nov 29, 2015 19:44
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I regret my previous speech. I would've preferred Huckabee have said nothing at all
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Nov 29, 2015 19:46
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Epic High Five posted:I regret my previous speech. I would've preferred Huckabee have said nothing at all The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion: The Problem Attic > USPOL Nov: I would've preferred Huckabee have said nothing at all
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Nov 29, 2015 19:46
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Welllll "gently caress this guy not for what he did but for the inevitable legislative response" - Now in presidential-hopeful tweet form!
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Nov 29, 2015 19:50
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Nov 29, 2015 19:53
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Meg From Family Guy posted:The shooter was mentally ill Most right wingers are
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Nov 29, 2015 19:54
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Meg From Family Guy posted:The shooter was mentally ill So are all suicide bombers.
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Nov 29, 2015 19:55
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So are boomers and gen x'ers who are committing suicide at rates well above what would be expected
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Nov 29, 2015 19:57
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Meg From Family Guy posted:The shooter was mentally ill Brilliant observation sir!
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Nov 29, 2015 19:57
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Meg From Family Guy posted:The shooter was mentally ill Hi, you only ever show up to defend racism, sexism or domestic terrorism.
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Nov 29, 2015 20:00
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SedanChair posted:Hi, you only ever show up to defend racism, sexism or domestic terrorism. Guaranteed to pack the house.
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Nov 29, 2015 20:07
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Meg From Family Guy posted:The shooter was mentally ill You're not wrong
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Nov 29, 2015 20:14
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DemeaninDemon posted:He's sorrowful it happened but acknowledges the true victims here: prolifers. Basically. quote:Brianna, I don't know of any pro-life leader... Any... If you can tell me one, please correct me. But I don't know of anyone who has suggested violence towards Planned Parenthood personnel, or some act of violence towards their clinics. I've not heard that, not from one, single pro-life person. I've heard universal condemnation, whether it's from the Centers for Medical Progress that put out the videos, whether it's from pro-life advocates, and I consider myself one of them... I know of nobody, that has ever suggested that Planned Parenthood be the target of some type of violent attack, so I think that's a little bit disingenuous on the part of Planned Parenthood to blame people who have a strong philosophical disagreement with the dismembering of human babies. Look, Planned Parenthood isn't the victim here, it's the pro-life movement, who's been unjustly blamed for this!
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Basically. BRB going to my happy, calming place for a little bit edit - my post became a thread title, my legacy is secure! Epic High Five fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Nov 29, 2015 |
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Nov 29, 2015 20:17
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Boon posted:No. You're reading into it. You are giving Huckabee far too much credit. He's specifically not using more valid terms like 'attack' for this reason. SedanChair posted:Hi, you only ever show up to defend racism, sexism or domestic terrorism. An unfunny shitposting gimmick in D&D you say? 
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Evil Fluffy posted:You are giving Huckabee far too much credit. He's specifically not using more valid terms like 'attack' for this reason. No, I'm not. I'm simply not going to pretend Huckabee is playing some vaguely higher level mental game that you seem to be laying on him. The comment is lovely as is. If you have to do mental gymnastics to justify something over a much more reasonable interpretation then you're probably reading into it and should probably take a breath. Boon fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Nov 29, 2015 |
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Nov 29, 2015 20:28
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Meg From Family Guy posted:The shooter was mentally ill Same
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Nov 29, 2015 20:32
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Meg From Family Guy posted:The shooter was mentally ill A wild hot take appears. Guns should come with LSD laced into the hand grips. Maybe it'll help clear their minds before they start shooting.
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Nov 29, 2015 20:35
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Nov 29, 2015 20:39
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Look, Planned Parenthood isn't the victim here, it's the pro-life movement, who's been unjustly blamed for this! Hey, I'm sure if we just took a moment to reflect we'd decide that everyone shares a little bit of the blame. http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/261431-carson-both-sides-in-abortion-debate-need-to-tone-down quote:Carson: Both sides in abortion debate need to tone down rhetoric
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JehovahsWetness posted:Hey, I'm sure if we just took a moment to reflect we'd decide that everyone shares a little bit of the blame. gently caress him. God drat.
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Meg From Family Guy posted:The shooter was mentally ill Shut up, M---wait no, you're actually right.
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Nov 29, 2015 20:43
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The only thing I'm scared of right now in the presidential election is Hillary being viewed of as a bully in debates by Fox/CNN/etc. She's going to destroy.
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Nov 29, 2015 20:46
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DemeaninDemon posted:The only thing I'm scared of right now in the presidential election is Hillary being viewed of as a bully in debates by Fox/CNN/etc. She's going to destroy. Ugh, I'm already preparing for a repeat of the VP debates, where the media went off every time about whether or not Biden was "bullying" and whether or not Ryan/Palin was "doing well considering".  It was still fun to watch Biden wipe the floor with everyone, but the "well, I guess it was a tie"  mentality kills me every time.
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Nov 29, 2015 20:56
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DemeaninDemon posted:The only thing I'm scared of right now in the presidential election is Hillary being viewed of as a bully in debates by Fox/CNN/etc. She's going to destroy. If she's against Trump somehow, there's absolutely no way this narrative would stick. You can't out-bully the ultimate bully.
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Nov 29, 2015 21:00
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WampaLord posted:If she's against Trump somehow, there's absolutely no way this narrative would stick. You can't out-bully the ultimate bully. Which is why the fox rhetoric would have Trump coming off as confident while Clinton would be described as a shrill harpy.
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Nov 29, 2015 21:06
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Combed Thunderclap posted:Ugh, I'm already preparing for a repeat of the VP debates, where the media went off every time about whether or not Biden was "bullying" and whether or not Ryan/Palin was "doing well considering". Only an idiot seriously thinks Biden didn't win that. Anyone with ears and eyes could tell that. I wouldn't think too much about it.
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deoju posted:Cruz was on the debate team at whatever Ivy League he went to and he argued a case before the Supreme Court, albeit unsuccessfully. If it was him versus Clinton I wouldn't expect her to walk away with it. Thankfully this scenario is all but impossible now that Cruz is Trump's running mate. Even if Trump bows out (unlikely), Cruz is now indelibly linked to Trump this election cycle.
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Nov 29, 2015 21:21
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deoju posted:Cruz was on the debate team at whatever Ivy League he went to and he argued a case before the Supreme Court, albeit unsuccessfully. If it was him versus Clinton I wouldn't expect her to walk away with it. You're in a bad place if you think Cruz gets that far or that he'll wet fart his way through a debate with Hillary.
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deoju posted:Cruz was on the debate team at whatever Ivy League he went to and he argued a case before the Supreme Court, albeit unsuccessfully. If it was him versus Clinton I wouldn't expect her to walk away with it. No way. Being a good legal debater is not nearly the same thing as a political debater. In the legal system, you don't win over judges with impassioned closing arguments, as much as TV would lead us to believe. But political debates are all about rhetoric that resonates with voters.
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JehovahsWetness posted:Hey, I'm sure if we just took a moment to reflect we'd decide that everyone shares a little bit of the blame. "I learned something today, you guys. Maybe the crazy, baby-part-selling abortionist murderer killers are right about some things, and the heroic, pro-life Christian soldiers are right about other things. I think we all just need to calm down and recognize each others' points: that abortion should be illegal but that we also shouldn't kill doctors," Honestly though, where is the "heated rhetoric" from pro-choice people? Where is this secret, atheist/Muslim militia compound where people smoke weed, have recreational abortions, and plot attacks on pro-life rallies? DemeaninDemon posted:The only thing I'm scared of right now in the presidential election is Hillary being viewed of as a bully in debates by Fox/CNN/etc. She's going to destroy. That is going to be extremely interesting. If the nominee is Bush or Rubio, I can definitely see them pushing this idea. If it's Trump (I doubt it), the debate will be one of the ugliest scenes in modern politics.
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Nov 29, 2015 21:29
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Boon posted:Soldiering on, slowly. Quit a few pages back, but I just want to recommend you pick up one of Matt Taibbi's earlier books as a palet cleanser. Sure, they are still about all the horrible things you are already reading about, but his writing style will have you laughing out loud (possibly through the tears, but still). Smells Like Dead Elephants is a great one.
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Bullfrog posted:That is going to be extremely interesting. If the nominee is Bush or Rubio, I can definitely see them pushing this idea. If it's Trump (I doubt it), the debate will be one of the ugliest scenes in modern politics. You mean Rubio v Trump v Hillary? 
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Nov 29, 2015 21:44
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Basically. Huck's ignoring the original pro-life movement of the 80's and 90's, which was predicated on violence toward abortion providers and protest tactics that would make Black Lives Matter protesters shake their heads while taking notes.
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Nov 29, 2015 21:49
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richardfun posted:Quit a few pages back, but I just want to recommend you pick up one of Matt Taibbi's earlier books as a palet cleanser. Sure, they are still about all the horrible things you are already reading about, but his writing style will have you laughing out loud (possibly through the tears, but still). The Divide is more relevant to current events.
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Is Fiorina still relevant?quote:In an interview this morning with Fox News Sunday, Republican primary candidateCarly Fiorina said that attempts to link Friday’s Planned Parenthood shooting with anti-abortion rhetoric were “typical left-wing tactics.”
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Nov 29, 2015 21:58
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JehovahsWetness posted:Hey, I'm sure if we just took a moment to reflect we'd decide that everyone shares a little bit of the blame. get hosed Carson. I usually the first to poo poo on both sides. but on this issue, its only been the right being assholes about PP and womens health.
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