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sigma 6 posted:Can you, or anyone else, tell me why the surface book or surface tablet is any better than the cintiq companion outside of the price point? I think the surface devices are still overall cheaper than the portable cintiqs but I could be wrong. Surface book is an excellent laptop and an excellent tablet. All others compromise so they are somewhere in the middle. The screen size is bigger than the cintiq and surface pro while being just as portable as the surface pro (fits the same case). It has a gfx card which help run maya/max etc much better than cintiq companion or SP. It really is near flawless for artwork. It runs everything I throw at it while not compromising on power or battery life.
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It really just boils down to how tied you are to Wacom's digitizer behavior and screen texture. The Surface feels like drawing on glass with no resistance to me, and while I could put a screen protector on, I'd rather not, because that would negate any advantage the display may have over a CC2 to me. The Core i7 Surfaces (which are not out yet) are pretty comparable in price to the core i7 Wacom's, in Japan anyway.
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keyframe posted:Surface book is an excellent laptop and an excellent tablet. All others compromise so they are somewhere in the middle. The screen size is bigger than the cintiq and surface pro while being just as portable as the surface pro (fits the same case). It has a gfx card which help run maya/max etc much better than cintiq companion or SP. A while ago I returned my Cintiq 27QHD due to an unforgivable number of dead pixels. I'm considering going a little smaller with a 22HD, but I'm actually not sure to what extent I want to support Wacom anymore. They're running a sale on Intuos Pros - medium for $300, which I guess is better than my current situation of having zero digital drawing devices at home (so I'm spending more time in the office than I'd like). Can anyone comment on the durability of that line? I have massively bad luck with Wacom's products historically. My Intuos 4 is recently deceased and have killed an Inutos 3 in the past due to the USB cable wearing down.
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Frown Town posted:Wacom hates me. Man, you are the unluckiest guy. Since the 27QHD I bought a CC2 and it's also flawless, and have given out plenty of Intuos as gifts and never had anyone complain. 
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Nov 19, 2015 08:42
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anyone playing with the ipad pro and duet display?
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Maybe a long shot, but does anyone have access to Wacom repair manuals? I have a Cintiq 22HD and its fine, but one of the ratchets of the stand has gone wonky and I'd like to have some guidance on repairing it instead of sending it to Wacom.
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keyframe posted:Surface book is an excellent laptop and an excellent tablet. All others compromise so they are somewhere in the middle. The screen size is bigger than the cintiq and surface pro while being just as portable as the surface pro (fits the same case). It has a gfx card which help run maya/max etc much better than cintiq companion or SP. Thank you for this but I am very keen on CPU and GPU over anything else. I will be using this for zbrush, maya, and photoshop, so performance is key. Looks like I have to pay extra for a NVIDIA GPU which kind of sucks. When you account for that, it costs about as much as a cintiq companion. The cintiq companion 2 is great because it can plug into any workstation and use the power of that workstation. Also, wacom digitizers are still the best in the biz. I didn't know the surface book screen is bigger than the cintiq companion though. That is interesting. The surface book mount - where the screen attaches to the keyboard - looks really questionable. Why the obvious gap there? Lastly, does anyone know of any great cybermonday deals on either the Surfacebook or the Cintiq Companion? THANKS!
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sigma 6 posted:Thank you for this but I am very keen on CPU and GPU over anything else. I will be using this for zbrush, maya, and photoshop, so performance is key. Looks like I have to pay extra for a NVIDIA GPU which kind of sucks. When you account for that, it costs about as much as a cintiq companion. The cintiq companion 2 is great because it can plug into any workstation and use the power of that workstation. Also, wacom digitizers are still the best in the biz. I didn't know the surface book screen is bigger than the cintiq companion though. That is interesting. I'm eyeing the SP4 i5/256 for Maya myself. But... $1400 (1300+100KB) vs. $1900 is tougher to justify over a $1500 laptop and just replacing the $20 pen on my Huion610 (the pen is actually falling apart after ~18 months). Is a dedicated GPU really worth the extra $500? ($200 if you go with a i7/256 SP4.)
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Definitely want the dedicated GPU for 3d stuff. Wacom is doing the cyber monday thing. Still fairly steep prices IMO. https://www.wacom.com/en-us/store/cintiq Looks like the Surface Book is cheaper as long as you don't get the GPU upgrade. http://www.cnet.com/products/microsoft-surface-book/
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Nov 29, 2015 21:45
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Sounds like an advertisement to replace the battery on my laptop (it's a lemon and out of warranty) and get a replacement Huion pen. Maybe next model... the daydream continues.
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Nov 29, 2015 23:31
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Wow. Well - The surface book seems to DEFINITELY win out in terms of screen quality. WTF??
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I can be slightly biased against wacom but that is still a very anecdotal test, like literally comparing 1 unit to 1 unit
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http://www.cnet.com/products/microsoft-surface-book/quote:
$2700 !! Why would they put the nvidia gpu in the keyboard part vs. the tablet part? Also - it looks like if you apply pressure to the closed surface book, you would break it due to the gap. That gap makes no sense to me at all. Now the cintiq companion cybermonday deal at $1700 seems a lot more reasonable! I just really want the nvidia gpu, as well as the extra ram / HD space. Do I want it for 1k more though? That seems excessive, just to have a tablet built in to your laptop. sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Nov 30, 2015 |
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I wanted to pack both my tablet and laptop into a single unit that's also slightly lighter and takes up less table space. But if the dGPU (what a weird acronym) is de facto required for Maya, and I'm not too savvy of a 2D artist, well I've got no business getting the Surface Book at that price. Also I swear everyone I can find through Google is just modeling in Maya, and not animating. It appears like animation sites were all for the SP3, but that market itself is so small I'm not even finding a lot of anecdotal evidence it worked out for anyone a year later. At some point in time I can see myself getting the SP4, but it plummeted down the list until further notice.
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Nov 30, 2015 02:27
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Looks like this is a misprint on the Wacom site. Looking at the ad below, it clearly says 150 off of 1850. WTF? Looking at the website though shows the cybermonday sale makes it 1850, not 1700... dammit. https://www.wacom.com/en-us/store/pen-displays/cintiq-companion-2-256-gb EDIT: Looks like none of the cintiq companions come with Nvidia cards. The hardware express keys are pretty nifty but not at such price hike over the Surface. Also - no cybermonday deals on Surface 4 or the book as far as I can tell. sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Nov 30, 2015 |
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Oh thank gently caress, a thread for wacom stuff. I'm having a hard time finding a replacement side switch for my pen. Dogs got my pen. It's intact except they managed to nibble off my side switch button and I'm assuming they ate it. I use the switch a lot so it's frustrating to not have it. It's been a couple weeks and I haven't found it, so I assume it's somewhere in a turd in my back yard. This piece. I also saw that someone uploaded this switch on thingiverse so you can print it on a 3D printer. Unfortunately the few places I can go to print this will charge me way too much for a tiny button. Anyone know where I buy just this little button? I don't want to spend $40+ USD on a kit or even more for a pen just for a tiny piece.
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Dec 1, 2015 06:36
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Surprising that it would cost that much to print out. Shapeways.com is pretty cheap for a piece that small. Alternatively, you could make friends at your local hackerspace and use their 3d printer. A little more work but it might be worth it in the long run. The local hackerspace here only charges 30$ for monthly fees.
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Nerolus posted:Oh thank gently caress, a thread for wacom stuff. I'm having a hard time finding a replacement side switch for my pen. Dogs got my pen. It's intact except they managed to nibble off my side switch button and I'm assuming they ate it. I use the switch a lot so it's frustrating to not have it. It's been a couple weeks and I haven't found it, so I assume it's somewhere in a turd in my back yard. This piece. Depending on which pen it is, it may only cost $40 to replace. I think the art pen is the only expensive one ($60). If they aren't freely available in the US at normal retailers try the Wacom store online, which is where I have to go in Japan to get replacement nibs.
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I'll butcher a q-tip and fab up something ghetto before I go spending $40, or even $20 just because I'm missing a piece that is composed of less plastic than a $0.05 green army man.
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Nerolus posted:Oh thank gently caress, a thread for wacom stuff. I'm having a hard time finding a replacement side switch for my pen. Dogs got my pen. It's intact except they managed to nibble off my side switch button and I'm assuming they ate it. I use the switch a lot so it's frustrating to not have it. It's been a couple weeks and I haven't found it, so I assume it's somewhere in a turd in my back yard. This piece. Check out https://www.3dhubs.com It's like Craigslist for 3d printer owners, you upload your 3d file, it analyzes it, finds local people with a printer, and gives you the price it would cost coming from their machines. Pick up in person, or by mail. Most people have a minimum job cost unfortunately, and as a 3d printer owner myself I can tell you that is a 2 cent part absolute MAX sky high value. 2 cents. and about 5 minutes on the machine, if that. So no matter which way you go you'll be ripped off a bit.
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Depending on what stylus you have, you can get a bonus side switch when you get the Wacom pro accessory kit, along with a bunch of other helpful stuff. It also has replacement grips which you'll probably want to change after dogs chew them up. https://www.wacom.com/en-us/store/kits/pro-accessory-kit
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Wacom's got the 27QHD for $300 off ($2k) - I returned mine after it had too many dead pixels (bought from B&H). I had resolved to use the old-but-still-working Intuos 2 I found at my parent's house over Thanksgiving (thanks, 16-year-old me!) until something super cool came out from Not Wacom... but now I'm seriously considering repurchasing the 27QHD. I have the money, I just don't really love giving it to Wacom.. should I just go for it? I'm hoping that buying directly from Wacom reduces the risk of dead pixels.
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Frown Town posted:Wacom's got the 27QHD for $300 off ($2k) - I returned mine after it had too many dead pixels (bought from B&H). I had resolved to use the old-but-still-working Intuos 2 I found at my parent's house over Thanksgiving (thanks, 16-year-old me!) until something super cool came out from Not Wacom... but now I'm seriously considering repurchasing the 27QHD. I have the money, I just don't really love giving it to Wacom.. should I just go for it? I'm hoping that buying directly from Wacom reduces the risk of dead pixels. I have not had your bad luck but I love mine so I would say yes. Wacom's return policy on dead pixels though requires more scruitny than b&h probably, though.
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windex posted:I have not had your bad luck but I love mine so I would say yes. Wacom's return policy on dead pixels though requires more scruitny than b&h probably, though. I went for it - they've got a 30-day return policy but, unlike B&H, you have to pay return shipping back, and I suspect the process takes a good deal longer. Fortunately this is a much lighter unit than the 24 so return shipping shouldn't be as terrible if it comes to that. I think I could tolerate a dead or stuck pixel in an unimportant quadrant (but not like, 7, all over the place). Fingers crossed!
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I'm a big ol' digital art baby and just purchased my first "real" tablet (a Huion 610 Pro on sale). I'd bought a Bamboo before and nearly went insane trying to use it because of how incredibly tiny the drawing area was. The 610 is pretty incredible comparatively, and I'm enjoying it a whole bunch. I had two quick questions: 1) Are there any recommended settings as far as sensitivity, etc. goes for tablets like this? I'm mainly using Illustrator and GIMP for my art so far, but I haven't gotten a firm grip on what types of brushes I should use, what sort of settings I should have for the tablet itself, and so on. Is there a handy guide for setting this sort of stuff up? 2) I'm having a lot of trouble doing circular motions and smooth curves compared to paper. I suspect it's because of the fact that I tended to use an "artist's grip" (where you hold the pencil like a wine glass) as opposed to the "writer's grip" that digital tablets seem to favor. Any recommendations around this, or is it just a learning process to adjust to doing circles with the writer's grip?
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Vermain posted:
2) I encourage anyone not used to tablets take a look at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjhxM9iGAO4 And his videos in general are pretty drat good
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Wow. Took me fifty level 1 circles to get a my first non-F. Finally got a D! Neat program.
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Strotski posted:1) I use default, works like a charm and unlike Wacom back in the day I didn't have to adjust pressure curve in some manner. Thanks for the link - this looks rad as heck.
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Are there any good online apps for collaborative drawing with friends? Preferably mac based. I swear a while back I saw some artists (maybe shmorky?) do this, but I can't remember what they were using. Might even have just been google hangouts or Skype.
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the_lion posted:Are there any good online apps for collaborative drawing with friends? https://awwapp.com/ http://flockdraw.com/ I only ever used flockdraw and awwapp, so can't vouch for drawpile but it looks good and it's multiplatform Edit: Tried drawpile and it's the most advanced of the bunch, but it requires installing so might be a con for some. Strotski fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Dec 14, 2015 |
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Strotski posted:http://drawpile.net/download/ Thanks buddy! Exactly what I was looking for.
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Frown Town posted:I went for it - they've got a 30-day return policy but, unlike B&H, you have to pay return shipping back, and I suspect the process takes a good deal longer. Fortunately this is a much lighter unit than the 24 so return shipping shouldn't be as terrible if it comes to that. I think I could tolerate a dead or stuck pixel in an unimportant quadrant (but not like, 7, all over the place). Fingers crossed! Cintiq 27QHD #5, ordered directly from Wacom: 5 dark, dead pixels on a white screen, two smudgey dots under the glass I can only assume are dust, and a red stuck pixel on a black screen. Cool!! Called Wacom, this is likely covered once I send in some photos - the good news is that I'll likely be sent a replacement and Wacom will cover the shipping back.. but I'm having such terrible luck, I'm not sure if it is possible for me to receive a reasonable display. This is insane.
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Anyone know anything about the XP-Pen 10.1" pen display drawing monitor? I am a low-budget person and simply cannot afford Wacom's stuff. The amazon page makes it seem pretty good, but I am really wary of buying any kind of electronics. I am a really inexperienced artist who struggles with things like depth and perspective, and I feel like using a computer instead of traditional pencil and paper would open up more possibilities for me. Most of what I do right now is pen and pencil but I want to experiment with digital art. I have used an old Bamboo tablet in the past, but I have a need to be able to see my hand and see the artwork coming from my hand as I go. With the Bamboo, I cant see my hands interacting with my art, and it throws me off big time. I want a tablet that can imitate the experience of drawing with a pencil on a normal sheet of paper. I figure that having a screen that I can draw on physically would help. Anyway, the XP-Pen 10.1 looks like it might be what I am looking for, but I wanted to ask around first.
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Looked at their Amazon page and saying no to that, my reasoning: 4 reviews and it's already at 3.6, looks like a generic chinese knockoff If you want a really good low budget option go for http://www.amazon.com/Yiynova-MSP19...=yiynova+msp19u or similar tablets like Huion one, more at frenden.com for honest reviews on those If you're on a really tight budget like me and not afraid to do things with your hands take a look at this alternative http://www.bongofish.co.uk/wacom/wacom_pt1.html all it really is, is a cheap spare monitor (or any laptop matrix with LVDS controller), cheap tablet of your choice (I'm using H610 pro for my project) and a bit of reading at bongofish forums https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15NnaN-LKac Strotski fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Dec 21, 2015 |
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Ah, thanks. I was thinking the same about it looking cheap, but wasn't quite sure. The tablet you posted looks much better and is about the same price. My budget is based on what I can reasonably save up in a couple of months since I am not steadily employed during most of the year, so this is definitely in my range. Edit: Oh HELL YES. I just saw the assignable keys. I'm seriously going to consider this one. The Skeleton King fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Dec 21, 2015 |
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Strotski posted:Looked at their Amazon page and saying no to that, my reasoning: Considering how hard a drawing tablet can suck in a million subtle ways, never mind just not function properly, I wouldn't risk it even if it were 50 bucks.
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I would suggest getting the udpated version of the 19 inch Yiynova if that's what you're looking at. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B010TOQDPC/ref=psdc_1292115011_t1_B009QQ7BG0 The one linked earlier only has VGA input, while the V5 has a DVI input. It's basically the same unit, but digital input makes life so much easier. Analog signals bite, especially on LCDs. It's the same exact price so I would pick up the V5. Last time I looked at the not-Cintiq market (~15 months ago) I wound up buying a used Cintiq DTK-2100 21UX instead (21 inch model that uses the Intuos 4 and later styluses). That was when none of the knockoffs had digital inputs. Now, they all do, and I'd have to think a lot more seriously about it. I know people who use the UCLogic based digitizers and really like them. The 22 inch model looks like the price/performance sweet spot compared to a cintiq in terms of display quality. At $899 it's really hard to argue for a used 21/22 inch Cintiq versus a Yiynova at half the price. Also consider saving up some more money to get an ergotron arm to attach it to your desk. Works a heck of a lot better than the easel-type stands. Double Also, if you have an Nvidia graphics card, make sure to get a DVI-D > DVI-D extension cable, since it doesn't play well with the DVI-I cables used in these (and Cintiq) displays. It'll strip out the analog pin connections. kefkafloyd fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Dec 22, 2015 |
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Just kind of stumbled across MediaBangPaint and thought of the thread. It's basically a product similar to MangaStudio/ClipStudio with a couple differences: 1. It has support for windows/os x/Android/iOS 2. It has fewer features, but 3. It's free. I haven't installed it on my Mac as I have ClipStudio but I've played around with it on my iPad with an Adonit pixel pressure stylus and it works well, palm rejection particularly is nice as it basically ignores any input except the stylus. Don't know if the brush engine is as good as Clip/Manga studio, I imagine not but for roughing in thumbnails or layout work on the go or as a free way to get paneling and sketching etc. Anyway, it's http://medibangpaint.com/en/
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I bought a Wacom Intuos Draw CTL490DW for my daughter, since she's been doing plenty of sketching/drawing on paper and wants to try digital art. What would be a good (free) program for her to start out using?
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Kenlon posted:I bought a Wacom Intuos Draw CTL490DW for my daughter, since she's been doing plenty of sketching/drawing on paper and wants to try digital art. What would be a good (free) program for her to start out using? There's a free art program, mostly for comics, for all platforms in the post directly above yours, that might be a place to start. GIMP is free but I'm not a fan. I think Autodesk Sketchbook has a free version as well and it's very nice.
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