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FAUXTON posted:They push this kind of rhetoric because they have no fear of reciprocity or any kind of consequence for that matter. They're not wrong.
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Trabisnikof posted:They're not wrong. Well yeah, they're the ones committing the terrorism. If they expected reprisal or other types of accountability then they'd probably walk it back.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Seems I'm having a Rashomon moment here, because that's not the way I remember it. Obama completely bungled his handling of Syria. If he felt that he needed to have congressional authorization prior to using military force against Assad he should have had that lined up prior to drawing a red line in the sand. While it was pretty funny for him to punt the responsibility for military action to the Congress, it was a simple case of passing the buck after his bluff was called. The whole thing made him look incompetent, and made the US look weak in the process.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Welllll Well yeah just like how Muslims only condemn suicide bombers because it makes it harder for them to enforce Sharia Law on the USA. Huckabee is being internally consistent with his views at least!
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Armyman25 posted:Obama completely bungled his handling of Syria. If he felt that he needed to have congressional authorization prior to using military force against Assad he should have had that lined up prior to drawing a red line in the sand. While it was pretty funny for him to punt the responsibility for military action to the Congress, it was a simple case of passing the buck after his bluff was called. The whole thing made him look incompetent, and made the US look weak in the process. Seemingly everyone (willfully?) forgets that the infamous "red line" comment was an off the cuff response to a question some worthless reporter asked, which imo, is a bad thing to predicate a military intervention on. Also Congress deserves to have the buck passed to them because they're too dysfunctional to even pass an AUMF against ISIS while gnashing their teeth about the response to ISIS.
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Blaming Obama for our handling of Syria is like blaming the doctor for a cancer patient refusing to stop smoking.
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JehovahsWetness posted:Hey, I'm sure if we just took a moment to reflect we'd decide that everyone shares a little bit of the blame. ISIS is bad but I think hateful rhetoric against Syrian refugees who have nothing to do with ISIS is just as bad. Both sides need to engage in civil discussion. Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:Abortion is murder, but we shouldn't kill the murderers, but also the death penalty for murderers is very good. Well abortion providers are disproportionately white, no?
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Rexicon1 posted:Blaming Obama for our handling of Syria is like blaming the doctor for a cancer patient refusing to stop smoking.
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It is amazing to both watch Republicans berate Obama for not doing enough without them while also calling him a wanna-be emperor trying to end the Republic. But nah, let's not authorize military force because Obama wanted limited powers not an all powerful mandate that forever kicks congress out of the process.
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Rexicon1 posted:Blaming Obama for our handling of Syria is like blaming the doctor for a cancer patient refusing to stop smoking. but he wasn't persuasive enough!
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deoju posted:Cruz was on the debate team at whatever Ivy League he went to and he argued a case before the Supreme Court, albeit unsuccessfully. If it was him versus Clinton I wouldn't expect her to walk away with it. Structured debate competitions aren't a great barometer of persuasive ability. They're more about tactics and preparation than charisma or speaking ability. I mean, it's not like Cruz has been crushing it in the GOP debates.
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Jagchosis posted:Seemingly everyone (willfully?) forgets that the infamous "red line" comment was an off the cuff response to a question some worthless reporter asked, which imo, is a bad thing to predicate a military intervention on. Also Congress deserves to have the buck passed to them because they're too dysfunctional to even pass an AUMF against ISIS while gnashing their teeth about the response to ISIS. My biggest criticism is that Obama was very reluctant to provide support early on in the revolution before Syria got flushed with Islamist groups. This was the course of action recommended by at least the ambassador to Syria and I believe our intelligence services. However following Benghazi and Republicans whining he back off from doing anything until a few months/years later after Al-Nusra showed up and other similar groups flush with Saudi & Gulf States cash and took over the opposition forces which made it looks like any opposition to Assad was Taliban V2.
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Rexicon1 posted:The only reasonable outcome is to completely conquer the Middle East an establish a Christian empire over the whole godless region. (Except Israel of course) If only the pope wasn't such a beta bitch he could call a crusade and we could re-establish the Crusader States.
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Jack2142 posted:My biggest criticism is that Obama was very reluctant to provide support early on in the revolution before Syria got flushed with Islamist groups. This was the course of action recommended by at least the ambassador to Syria and I believe our intelligence services. However following Benghazi and Republicans whining he back off from doing anything until a few months/years later after Al-Nusra showed up and other similar groups flush with Saudi & Gulf States cash and took over the opposition forces which made it looks like any opposition to Assad was Taliban V2. We have an impeccable track record with arming revolutionary forces around the world. Great idea mr ambassador. No no let's give them a ton of training and arm them. I'm sure that this ambiguous revolutionary force that suits our short term needs won't radicalize violently in a way we can't predict.
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JehovahsWetness posted:Hey, I'm sure if we just took a moment to reflect we'd decide that everyone shares a little bit of the blame. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TttI60-mjQ
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Jack2142 posted:My biggest criticism is that Obama was very reluctant to provide support early on in the revolution before Syria got flushed with Islamist groups. This was the course of action recommended by at least the ambassador to Syria and I believe our intelligence services. However following Benghazi and Republicans whining he back off from doing anything until a few months/years later after Al-Nusra showed up and other similar groups flush with Saudi & Gulf States cash and took over the opposition forces which made it looks like any opposition to Assad was Taliban V2. No guarantee an intervention would have worked out that well, Syria was p much guaranteed to be a failed state after the war heated up. Optimistically it would wind up being a perpetual low intensity civil war like Libya is if Assad was toppled, which I guess is better than the status quo. But even if an intervention worked well it would definitely have hosed up detente with Iran, which I feel is more important in the long run. By the time the "red line" became an issue Syria was already proper hosed with Salafis everywhere anyway
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Luigi Thirty posted:Ted Cruz called the shooter a "transgendered leftist activist" according to this Texas Tribune reporter. Getting out in front to try to be a worse person than Trump. Good luck with that, Ted.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Ted Cruz called the shooter a "transgendered leftist activist" according to this Texas Tribune reporter. gently caress this poo poo. Why can't they just stick with the mental illness, no true Christian poo poo? Lessail posted:None of this is fun anymore
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What the hell is this transgendered stuff? Is he actually trans or did the right finally spin into the stratosphere
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Rexicon1 posted:What the hell is this transgendered stuff? Is he actually trans or did the right finally spin into the stratosphere Someone looked up his voter registration and it says female. That's the only reference I can find to that. It could be a clerical error for all anyone knows.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Someone looked up his voter registration and it says female. That's the only reference I can find to that. It could be a clerical error for all anyone knows. Jesus loving piss
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Jagchosis posted:Seemingly everyone (willfully?) forgets that the infamous "red line" comment was an off the cuff response to a question some worthless reporter asked, which imo, is a bad thing to predicate a military intervention on. Also Congress deserves to have the buck passed to them because they're too dysfunctional to even pass an AUMF against ISIS while gnashing their teeth about the response to ISIS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avQKLRGRhPU He re-iterates the red line twice in his response and states that there will be "enormous consequences" if chemical weapons are used. And so far, the consequences to Assad for using chemical weapons have been what? Armyman25 fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Nov 30, 2015 |
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As a European it's always kind of funny when people complain something Obama said or did 'makes the US look weak' considering you've got the largest, most advanced, military force by a huge margin, god knows what the gently caress your agencies do covertly and whenever something happens in the world, wether it concerns you directly or not, all eyes are on you to see what your response will be. eta: And I mean, it's not like you've got a track record that somehow implies you're afraid to throw all that military weight around.
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Here are some of Carson's hottest brilliant thoughts on the Syrian refugees. CBS News quote:"The Jordanians have done a yeoman's job in terms of putting up these camps. But the reason that the camps are not full is because they are not supported by the international community," he said. "It seems like everybody in the international community is spending more time saying 'How can we bring refugees here?' rather than [b'How can we support a facility that is already in place that the refugees are finding perfectly fine when it's adequately funded?'"[/b] CNN News quote:"The thing that I really learned in listening to the refugees themselves is their intense desire is to return to their country and repatriated," Carson said. He also appeared on ABC but, I can't find an article, just a video. I'm sure he repeated his Halloween candy and how the refugees love living in tent cities like prisoners of war. So the good doctor needs to just convince his good friends in the GOP to pony up $3 Billion dollars for people they hate.
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pathetic little tramp posted:The proper translation is miscarry, the "gives birth prematurely" was either a nicety added because miscarry is such a dirty word or it's a straight up political decision that cropped up after birth control came into existence. Thanks for the explanation. Combed Thunderclap posted:Ugh, I'm already preparing for a repeat of the VP debates, where the media went off every time about whether or not Biden was "bullying" and whether or not Ryan/Palin was "doing well considering". Actually after the the Ryan debate, I do recall the overall impression being in Biden's favor. Sure, you might have had a few beltway journalists give Ryan some brownie points, but it was a solid win (if you need any more proof, just see the conservative reaction afterwards which was basically; HOW COULD THAT BULLY BIDEN BE SO MEAN TO THE INNOCENT WIDDLE PAUL RYAN  )deoju posted:Cruz was on the debate team at whatever Ivy League he went to and he argued a case before the Supreme Court, albeit unsuccessfully. If it was him versus Clinton I wouldn't expect her to walk away with it. There has to be some special rules or something involved in the debates Cruz was involved with in college, cause I've seen the guy for the past 3 years and he comes off as one of the most incompetent, high profile politicians I've seen. I've said it before, but the guy can't even pull of the pseudo intellectual facade that you could get from Paul Ryan or Newt Gingrich. His arguments always come down to the most facile things like "constitution" and "Jesus". Look at how he does against Chris Matthews: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StGzhLCKkkY JehovahsWetness posted:Hey, I'm sure if we just took a moment to reflect we'd decide that everyone shares a little bit of the blame. If only both sides would tone things down and make polite, uncontroversial, non-inflammatory references like to slavery, the Holocaust, etc. DemeaninDemon posted:Is Fiorina still relevant? NO IT loving DIDN'T SHE ACTUALLY CUT AND SPLICED HER OWN loving FOOTAGE TO CORROBORATE HER DUMBASS CLAIM THAT'S THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF "BACKING UP" HER CLAIMS  Why doesn't this get trotted out more than it does? It's breathtaking the level of deception Fiorina's engaged in.
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radical meme posted:Here are some of Carson's hottest brilliant thoughts on the Syrian refugees. Why don't the Gulf States or the Saudi's pony up the dough? It's peanuts to them anyway.
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Armyman25 posted:Why don't the Gulf States or the Saudi's pony up the dough? It's peanuts to them anyway. Because it's not even a realistic solution to the humanitarian crisis the refugees are going through. Carson is suggesting internment camps are a good solution to a crisis that could go on for years. edit: were you being sarcastic? i hope you were being sarcastic. radical meme fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Nov 30, 2015 |
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Luigi Thirty posted:Ted Cruz called the shooter a "transgendered leftist activist" according to this Texas Tribune reporter. Assuming this dude is in fact transgendered, is there any other basis for him/her being a "leftist activist". And even if all that were true, why would said transgendered leftist activist shoot up a Planned Parenthood facility?
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