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Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


the original movies aren't good because of the universe. also the new movie looks good and jj already made a good star wars movie it was the star trek reboot.

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Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Groovelord Neato posted:

jj already made a good star wars movie it was the star trek reboot.

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


Everything is worthy of a cinematic universe. Harry Potter is getting prequels, The Fast and The Furious is getting spinoff films, surely more than one Star Wars movie being in production within years of each other will not destroy all life.

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


On the one hand, many stories to tell.

On the other hand, those stories will be lightsaber mans and X-Wings, just like 99% of all the other published material. Lightning bolts and Imperial remnants until you don't even know which movie you're in.

On the third hand, compute the problem that about 20% of comic book movies are actually good and then extend that to just one franchise, and dehumanize yourself and face to bloodshed.

chaosbreather
Dec 9, 2001

Wry and wise,
but also very sexual.

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



Groovelord Neato posted:

i'm an idiot and forgot the bothans stole the SECOND plans.

still gonna be bad. when it is can you apologize to me. there's no reason to fill in the gaps.


the characters in Godzilla were terrible.
If Rogue One eventually leads to a Wraith Squadron movie (or more Star Wars flightsim games) it'll all be worth it. :colbert:

Shalebridge Cradle posted:

How many people or groups snatched the plans in the original EU? It has to be over 10
Yeah, the theft of the original DS plans was such a clusterfuck in the old EU that they had to write a novel specifically intended to straighten it all out.

The cliffs notes version is that everyone in the EU stole a PIECE of the plans, and when put together and uploaded into R2, you got the whole picture that the Rebels used to plan the Trench Run defense.

You know, that foolproof tactic where the Rebels attacked in waves with no cover in a straight line trench and got obliterated one after another by the same 3 TIE fighters, until Han caught on that if he just blasted the TIEs unannounced, that the Rebels couldn't lose.
:viggo:

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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hmmm

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

Who loving cares, I haven't watched a Superhero movie since Dark Knight Rises and I haven't experienced any of the Star Wars EU in a decade and it hasn't impacted my enjoyment of either of those things. Watch the stuff you wanna watch and ignore the rest, it really isn't that hard even if your friends are posting about it on Facebook or whatever.

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


While they are making this cavalcade of movies, I'd like to see an adaptation of my childhood favorite Star Wars thing, AC Crispin's Han Solo trilogy. Give me psychic rhinos, give me Imperial fleets being defeated by stage magicians, give me a 40-minute sabacc scene.

Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020

I know the real way to derive your Star Wars name: The first three letters of your last name and the first two of your first name form your first name. The first two letters of your mother's maiden name and the first three letters of your birthplace form your last name.
Example: John Smith was in New York City to Mary Smith (nee Watson). His name is Smijo Wanew (Smith, John; Watson, New York City).

Mine is Linka Huwas, which is clearly the name of one of those Jedis who died like a punk in the battle at the end of Episode II. What's yours?

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


I dropped a linka huwas in the toilet last night.

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

Pththya-lyi posted:

I know the real way to derive your Star Wars name: The first three letters of your last name and the first two of your first name form your first name. The first two letters of your mother's maiden name and the first three letters of your birthplace form your last name.
Example: John Smith was in New York City to Mary Smith (nee Watson). His name is Smijo Wanew (Smith, John; Watson, New York City).

Mine is Linka Huwas, which is clearly the name of one of those Jedis who died like a punk in the battle at the end of Episode II. What's yours?

Holja Monew. Probably a Twi'lek consigliere.

Tender Bender fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Dec 1, 2015

TK-42-1
Oct 30, 2013

looks like we have a bad transmitter



Pththya-lyi posted:

Mine is Linka Huwas, which is clearly the name of one of those Jedis who died like a punk in the battle at the end of Episode II. What's yours?

Turfa Hysan.

The movies will be a mishmash of ok and poo poo. No one expects anything different. Look at the MCU. Really, the only actual good movies are the Captain America ones and Iron Man 1. The rest are ok filler that's fun to watch on DVD on a Saturday night when you don't feel like going out.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


guardians of the galaxy is the best marvel flick.

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


Groovelord Neato posted:

guardians of the galaxy is the best marvel flick.

It is the best Star Wars movie since they mostly stopped making them in the early 90's.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


agreed.

TK-42-1
Oct 30, 2013

looks like we have a bad transmitter



Groovelord Neato posted:

guardians of the galaxy is the best marvel flick.

Oh right. I forgot that's technically MCU

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Groovelord Neato posted:

guardians of the galaxy is the best marvel flick.

this. most of the marvel movies are basicaly just good summer movies, GOTG was the only legit good film of any of them.

OneThousandMonkeys posted:

Essentially, if you think that a huge glut of Star Wars titles coming down the pipeline is not going to have at least a couple of poo poo sandwiches, or that the Big lovely EU could ever truly die, you're hopelessly naive or you just mindlessly consume this poo poo as long as it has the branding.

What we're going to see in the next 10 years is a massive expansion of content for this franchise, and we've already seen that the EU in particular will just eat its own barf and then throw it back up on you over and over again for years. Now imagine that but with an even more intense marketing push.

see i am weirdly ok with this. Yeah, there will definatly be some turds but i am sure their will also be some great ones and we could get different directors doing different kinds of star wars unvivese movies. I want reservoir dogs in space drat it. rogue one seems interesting enough and the godzilla movie was pretty good. i am curious what kind things they could do. anything is better then orgy bugs/ sado mascosit aliens/admiral retard taking over the goverment. at least the wiped the slate clean for the most part. (i think the old republic stuff is still in quasi limbo) hell I want a revan movie.

shiksa
Nov 9, 2009

i went to one of these wrestling shows and it was... honestly? frickin boring. i wanna see ricky! i want to see his gold chains and respect for the ftw lifestyle

Pththya-lyi posted:

I know the real way to derive your Star Wars name: The first three letters of your last name and the first two of your first name form your first name. The first two letters of your mother's maiden name and the first three letters of your birthplace form your last name.
Example: John Smith was in New York City to Mary Smith (nee Watson). His name is Smijo Wanew (Smith, John; Watson, New York City).

Mine is Linka Huwas, which is clearly the name of one of those Jedis who died like a punk in the battle at the end of Episode II. What's yours?

Find your droid name, first take the first 8 numbers of your credit card number, the last four numbers of your social security number, and then the last eight numbers of your credit card number

Mr.Pibbleton
Feb 3, 2006

Aleuts rock, chummer.

HugoDigletts posted:

"The Festival of Warriors is the most challenging athletic competition in Otoh Gunga. Hundreds of Gungans, including Boss Nass and Jar Jar Binks, participate in its main event, the Big Nasty Free-For-All. This year's Free-For-All is the nastiest yet, because of the unexpected arrivals of some very unfriendly droids.

Who will win the race…and save the Gungans? "

I didn't know about this and had something remarkably similar happen in my campaign where the players had to win at all these competitions to impress the locals and they had to go up against an archaeologist's team of droids in the game of moons(basketball) event. There were some force dunking at that space jam.

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

OneThousandMonkeys posted:

This has been discussed before but the horror is beginning to dawn on me.

I hope you all realize that even if this new movie is good--and that's a big if--we are going to get at least 1 Star Wars movie a year until they no longer make money, that is to say forever. This is no longer one eccentric geek's brainchild/piggy-bank where he has dictatorial control over when and how the movies happen, and he waits 20 years between spurts because he's got billions of dollars from making it ultra-toyetic. The franchise is now being shopped off to every writer, director, and actor they can find on the cheap, as that's now the model going forward.

This will be the eighth Star Wars movie in 38 years. In the next 8 years, the total will probably double, if not more than double. The chances that some of these movies will be poo poo is very high. All will be high canon and you will have to hear about how "no, they are actually good" through 20 loving years of crowdsourced sites or whatever Reddit mutates into.

With the oncoming implosion of cable, this franchise is how Disney is going to drive its profits for the foreseeable future. All Star Wars, all the time.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/30/business/media/disneys-star-wars-attracts-investors-in-midst-of-espn-woes.html?ref=movies

so you're basically saying that instead of bad and dumb EU books we'll have bad and dumb EU movies

at least we'll always have great RLM plinkett reviews until Mike offs himself

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

OneThousandMonkeys posted:

The CG shitshow that no one really even noticed because by then George had practically killed his franchise.

I had to look this up

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Clone_Wars_(film)

I honestly do not remember it ever being released in theaters.

Did this actually happen? Like it's not a hoax wikipedia article?

Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012




I remember seeing commercials and a trailer for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1QlcrUXG8c

Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012




The prequel trilogy gave us Republic Commando, so it can't be that bad.

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro

"Dammit Blackhawk" sounds like a redneck who found out he's 1/32 Cherokee and wanted to reinvent himself

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Kaiju Cage Match posted:

I remember seeing commercials and a trailer for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1QlcrUXG8c

why are the jedi making a "treaty" with jabba the hutt?

he's a drug pushing slug monster ganglord slavehaver who feeds sex slaves to a stop motion mutant t-rex

they should be diposing him and restoring some semblance of the rule of law to tatooine

'guardians of peace and justice' my ballsack

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


spacemang_spliff posted:

so you're basically saying that instead of bad and dumb EU books we'll have bad and dumb EU movies

at least we'll always have great RLM plinkett reviews until Mike offs himself

We'll get the books too. I'm unclear if Lucas is still involved at that level, but if he isn't, you can perhaps expect some stuff like the Star Wars version of the latter seasons of Deep Space Nine. Though to be fair there's already KOTOR 2. If he is involved we will get a nine-book series about Darth Icky.

Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020

Otisburg posted:

why are the jedi making a "treaty" with jabba the hutt?

he's a drug pushing slug monster ganglord slavehaver who feeds sex slaves to a stop motion mutant t-rex

they should be diposing him and restoring some semblance of the rule of law to tatooine

'guardians of peace and justice' my ballsack

The Old Republic was corrupt and the Jedi Order enabled it, news at 11

Mr.Pibbleton
Feb 3, 2006

Aleuts rock, chummer.

Pththya-lyi posted:

The Old Republic was corrupt and the Jedi Order enabled it, news at 11

No way, the creepy monks who stole kids from their parents then sent an army of 10 year old slaves into battle were good guys!

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Aug 6, 2013


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Pththya-lyi posted:

The Old Republic was corrupt and the Jedi Order enabled it, news at 11

This to me was the best part of the prequel trilogy. The fact that it was so horrifically underutilized suggests to me a few things:

1) Lucas was actually going for and acheiving subtext in the films. In which case, bravo. But also, why did you only figure it out for this one thing?

2) It was unintentional and Lucas actually wanted us to see how cool and awesome and better the Old Republic was and how it's such a shame it fell to a dictator.

3) It doesn't actually exist and we are reaching for literally anything to justify the prequels.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut

Pook Good Mook posted:

This to me was the best part of the prequel trilogy. The fact that it was so horrifically underutilized suggests to me a few things:

1) Lucas was actually going for and acheiving subtext in the films. In which case, bravo. But also, why did you only figure it out for this one thing?

2) It was unintentional and Lucas actually wanted us to see how cool and awesome and better the Old Republic was and how it's such a shame it fell to a dictator.

3) It doesn't actually exist and we are reaching for literally anything to justify the prequels.

This is one of the few places where I defend Lucas. I do think he was intentionally showing that the Jedi were a creepy groups of child-grabbers whose fanaticism, specifically when it came to fear of attachments, led to their downfall. That's how I've always interpreted the "Balance to the Force" prophecy- the Jedi were focused on the spiritual and completely cut off from the outside world, and that's why they didn't realize the danger of allowing powerful, unstable teenagers into their order but demanding they not have any of the human connections teenagers need to keep grounded. Someone will probably find a clip of Lucas saying the exact opposite, but I read it as the Jedi were just as "imbalanced" as the Sith, who fully embraced their darker desires, and the galaxy needed a purge so that Luke could rebuild the Jedi Order in a more humane fashion.

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


Yoda effectively says "We should probably tell someone that we can't really use the Force anymore" in the third one. There are pangs here and there that the Republic is actually a dystopia, but we are always told via clunky dialogue, not shown.

There's no protagonist and nothing whatsoever is consistent. If you attempt to take everything at face value, absolutely every character is a sociopathic moron, Jedi or not, but they don't behave consistently even in that context. As in, something will happen to blatantly contradict something else, sometimes only moments previously. It's not just characters saying and doing contradictory things, it is even events themselves. When you examine even basic plot points, they are all nonsense.

In any case, all attempts at theorycrafting George Lucas' misunderstood metacommentary genius are defeated by watching the production materials on this extremely well-documented disaster.

Dely Apple
Apr 22, 2006

Sing me Spanish Techno



How many goons in the cinema forum would reply to this but unironically

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro
I have a feeling the older George got and the more people he met, the more he began to sympathize with ol Sheev

The Bible
May 8, 2010

RFC2324 posted:

Hes not condemning the movie, he is saying that the sheer volume of movies coming guarantees at least one will suck terribly.

I'm saying they're all going to be god-awful. Every last one of them.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

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The Bible posted:

I'm saying they're all going to be god-awful. Every last one of them.
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CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
prediction, the new movie will be better than the phantom menace, but not as good as anything in the OT, it will be considered good though, because its better than TPM

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Aug 6, 2013


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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

prediction, the new movie will be better than the phantom menace, but not as good as anything in the OT, it will be considered good though, because its better than TPM

I would honestly be fine with a movie on par with Revenge of the Sith with better writing and acting.

So I guess what I'm saying is I'd be fine with a movie that's better than Revenge of the Sith.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



RotS handilly claims "most tolerable of PT" by virtue of McDiarmid's gleeful scenery chewing.

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Oct 30, 2011


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Otisburg posted:

RotS handilly claims "most tolerable of PT" by virtue of McDiarmid's gleeful scenery chewing.

McDiarmid is a really fun actor and I think he was the only person working on the prequels who understood his character and the motivations of the others. He was the only person adding subtext in his performance

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