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KillHour posted:What about the oil cooler? Track pack has that. Tech pack doesn't.
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Top Hats Monthly posted:but it's duh cah of the yeah You're thinking of the 6th gen Camaro
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Mange Mite posted:You're thinking of the 6th gen Camaro ...whoops. I've still heard a lot of negatives about it and it kinda surprised me to be car of the year, especially with the vision issues
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fknlo posted:Track pack has that. Tech pack doesn't. So you can get it without the R? Are the track pack and tech pack mutually exclusive?
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Top Hats Monthly posted:...whoops. I've still heard a lot of negatives about it and it kinda surprised me to be car of the year, especially with the vision issues That's literally the only gripe I've heard about it. Every review so far has raved about the car, and then added "shame about the FoV, though" at the end.
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KillHour posted:So you can get it without the R? Are the track pack and tech pack mutually exclusive? Yes they are. Stupid Ford 'packages'.
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KillHour posted:So you can get it without the R? Are the track pack and tech pack mutually exclusive? Yup! I think my biggest gripe with the GT350 is that you can't even get the premium radio setup with the track pack. Such a minor gripe, but the stock radio setup is ugly as poo poo.
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Top Hats Monthly posted:...whoops. I've still heard a lot of negatives about it and it kinda surprised me to be car of the year, especially with the vision issues a dump truck of money gets you anything to be car of the year
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fknlo posted:Yup! I think my biggest gripe with the GT350 is that you can't even get the premium radio setup with the track pack. Such a minor gripe, but the stock radio setup is ugly as poo poo. There are people that have done Sync 3 installs from the base radio on other current model Fords. I was looking it up the other day when I decided there's no way I'd go tech package over the track package. Upgrading the stereo, even with OEM Ford parts, should be super simple on a Mustang.
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Dislike button posted:VW of America sales down 25% last month What percentage of their models aren't they allowed to sell?
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davebo posted:What percentage of their models aren't they allowed to sell? Last I read, about 20% or so of their US sales had been TDI models. So a 25% drop is really not that bad, means their diesel scandal hardly affected their gas sales.
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Guinness posted:Last I read, about 20% or so of their US sales had been TDI models. I don't think the general car-buying public really gives a poo poo. I would bet that even if they were allowed to sell the diesels, they still wouldn't suffer much of a drop. I know people working in car insurance that were just like, "well it's just a recall, no big deal!" when they heard the news. I wouldn't put it past the general public, which has even less knowledge and interest in the subject, to care enough to affect VW in any significant way.
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Never underestimate the monumental apathy of the American public.
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Guinness posted:Last I read, about 20% or so of their US sales had been TDI models. Well, the article I read indicated a 60% drop in passat sales, and I highly doubt they were selling 60% of the passats with diesel.
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They also had a stop sale on some gas engines due to the camshaft issue.
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BraveUlysses posted:Well, the article I read indicated a 60% drop in passat sales, and I highly doubt they were selling 60% of the passats with diesel. its not 60% but probably more than you think, only because the four cyl gas passat was so bad compared to the competition for so long, and the vr 6 is like a 36k car, so the only reason to look at a passat was the diesel. they also rrfreshed it this month so maybe supply was disrupted.
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Guinness posted:Never underestimate the monumental apathy of the American public. Not only apathy, but the complete lack of ability to connect a news story with the real world. I dropped a VW smog joke at a lunch with a half dozen co-workers a few weeks ago. One guy chuckled, and everyone else just looked puzzled, and had to have it explained to them, after which they were sort of like "Oh, yea, I remember seeing something about VW stuff on the news". So they saw the news, but since it didn't directly impact them in any way, their brains just chucked it out the window onto the compost heap of everything else that doesn't immediately affect them in the next 15 minutes.
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Somebody managed to wreck a Koenigsegg Agera R https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYPl-vM8CN0
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Has there been any recent news on CarPlay and Sync 3, now that Sync 3 is actually shipping?
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New Volvo S90 has been revealed. I think it looks nice. Wagon should follow soon
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smackfu posted:Has there been any recent news on CarPlay and Sync 3, now that Sync 3 is actually shipping? Still no ETA from what I've seen. Who knows when it'll get integrated, if ever. That is one hot Volvo.
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Humbug posted:New Volvo S90 has been revealed. I think it looks nice. Wagon should follow soon How Chinese is Volvo nowadays?
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Humbug posted:New Volvo S90 has been revealed. I think it looks nice. Wagon should follow soon Side profile is too generic, looks like an Audi. Front looks great, as does the interior. The rear... I dunno man, it may grow on me, but it looks silly.
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Mange Mite posted:How Chinese is Volvo nowadays? Chinese ownership, and a plant for making Chinese market cars in China. Volvo headquarters, design, R&D and most plants for the rest of the world is still in Sweden i think. The sedan at least has some details to make it more Chinese-friendly for sure, but if it keeps the big car platforms alive, i couldn't care less. I wonder if the S-Class, A8, A7 6- and 7 series etc would all be around if it wasn't the Chinese love for big sedans?
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Humbug posted:New Volvo S90 has been revealed. I think it looks nice. Wagon should follow soon Front looks like the current BMW 3 series, side profile looks like any other Euro luxury car
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Ford sold jaguar and volvo to different companies. you wouldn't know it though.    All you have to do is pick how tall of a grille you want.
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Still waiting on Android Auto on Sync3.  Humbug posted:New Volvo S90 has been revealed. I think it looks nice. Wagon should follow soon
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I'm excited for a big Volvo wagon in the US, this is a good thing even if it looks like a Jag and Audi
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Big sedans won't die at the high end of the market, having a separate passenger compartment legit feels way nicer and more isolated than a wagon or SUV.
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Wheeee posted:having a separate passenger compartment legit feels way nicer and more isolated than a wagon or SUV. There's no reason SUVs or wagons can't also sport that feature.
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Humbug posted:New Volvo S90 has been revealed. I think it looks nice. Wagon should follow soon Looks like a Swedish Passat, but with slightly more hood and a brassier grill. Jury's out on the rear end. Should have just made it more like the old S60 and called it a day.
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I think the new Volvo looks great; it's the most squared and slabby of the current offerings. The tail is also surprisingly well done.
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kimbo305 posted:There's no reason SUVs or wagons can't also sport that feature. There generally is; you want to be able to fold the rear seats and have a full height compartment all the way through, not a narrow opening like you're left with on sedans with folding seats. At least, you want that if you're hauling something big enough to need a full-size SUV with the seat folded. Unless it's something flat like a picnic table I guess. Comedy option would be a vertical barrier that folds down on top of the seats, but that's getting a bit silly (plus you need a hole for the center mirror to look through).
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That assumes the SUV in question is supposed to be practical in the first place - there are already plenty that aren't
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Wheeee posted:Big sedans won't die at the high end of the market, having a separate passenger compartment legit feels way nicer and more isolated than a wagon or SUV. They make limousines out of SUVs too For example the Range Rover Black 
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Enourmo posted:There generally is; you want to be able to fold the rear seats and have a full height compartment all the way through, not a narrow opening like you're left with on sedans with folding seats. The compartment doesn't have to be amazingly integrated into the plastic interior work. Even if it were, I don't see it as a hard option to supporton the assembly line. You could build the same compartment up front between sedan or wagon and just loose full-passthrough for stuff like skis. That said, I'm not aware that SUVs have overtaken sedans in the prestige look department for the Chinese market, so the point about sedans being special stands.
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Even in small cars the sedan versions have a different, in some ways superior, interior feel. Sedans being more popular than wagons and hatchbacks in North America isn't just due to marketing or appearance.
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I don't know about that, I've owned sedans, hatchbacks and wagons and the body style had very little to do with the 'feel' of the interior.
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Wheeee posted:Even in small cars the sedan versions have a different, in some ways superior, interior feel. Maybe sitting in the backseat, if you have some amount of peripheral sensitivity to space above and behind your head, but from the front seat, the build should feel identical except for when you shoulder check and look past the C-pillar.
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