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Doctor Grape Ape posted:Booooo, the story disappeared. I feel like I was just robbed after reading the headline and not getting a story This is the link http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/russian-mp-died-when-husband-sets-of-grenade-during-sex-romp/news-story/39e4ad24a728a3e5996b6289a2d0cae7
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Zhanism posted:This is the link http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/russian-mp-died-when-husband-sets-of-grenade-during-sex-romp/news-story/39e4ad24a728a3e5996b6289a2d0cae7 I must be paranoid because I totally see this as a plausible cover story for Putin to remove someone that Inconvenienced him. 
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Ew, they made quite a mess banging in the back seat.
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I was hoping it was some sort of kinky sex play gone wrong scenario, the real report was almost disappointing 
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Doctor Grape Ape posted:I was hoping it was some sort of kinky sex play gone wrong scenario, the real report was almost disappointing I don't know, quote:during a fierce conflict he began to force her to perform her conjugal duty by threats and showing her an explosive device.” sounded about like what I've been reading for my Ringo thread.
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Cyrano4747 posted:sounded about like what I've been reading for my Ringo thread. At least he's up front about it being rape.
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Cyrano4747 posted:I don't know, Dingo thread? Don't tell me we started another Oh John Ringo No let's read session. E: iOS autocorrect 
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Cyrano4747 posted:I don't know, If that grenade wasn't inside someone it wasn't kinky enough 
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So err... Chances that bombing ISIS/ISIL/Daesh etc will achieve anything other than boost BaE share prices? Pretty much impossible to have any sensible attempt at debate here in the UK at present. I'm sure they're quaking in their boots about potentially having a few technicals plinked by our four broke-arsed Tornados anyway.
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inkjet_lakes posted:So err... Chances that bombing ISIS/ISIL/Daesh etc will achieve anything other than boost BaE share prices? Pretty much impossible to have any sensible attempt at debate here in the UK at present. Not as far as I can see. Daesh is part of a larger sectarian conflict, and just having the west smiting random military targets does nothing in that conflict, or even helps Daesh. It is quite likely that Daesh planned these terrorist actions specifically to get western reprisals (aside to cause problems for Syrian refugees.) Actions that would really hurt Daesh would be things like hurting their financials by stopping the Gulf states from paying protection money to them. But token military operations are easier/convince naive people that 'something is being done' so lets go with that. Also: Half of Germany's Tornados not airworthy
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inkjet_lakes posted:So err... Chances that bombing ISIS/ISIL/Daesh etc will achieve anything other than boost BaE share prices? Presumably, you're also trying to cause them to divert resources to avoiding being detected, decoying,etc. Rather than running a caliphate.
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inkjet_lakes posted:So err... Chances that bombing ISIS/ISIL/Daesh etc will achieve anything other than boost BaE share prices? Pretty much impossible to have any sensible attempt at debate here in the UK at present. The only type of bombing that would make a difference would be WW2 level complete destruction total war type bombing followed by occupation by a friendly force. While I'd have to think that having your "leaders" exploded occasionally would be annoying, it's not like there's any central point of gravity holding IS together.
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Doctor Grape Ape posted:If that grenade wasn't inside someone it wasn't kinky enough What are you talking about? Parts of it wound up inside both of them.
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The bombings did break Daesh's momentum (remember how, before Kobane became their Stalingrad, the press was reporting about their blitzing fast progress and that genius military commander they had?). Now they have lost a lot of ground in the north, have made meager gains elsewhere (seizing Palmyra was their biggest), and they're getting a lot less recruits than before. The aim of the terrorist action is mostly for them to bolster their image to get more recruits again. Making it harder for refugees to find asylum in Europe is part of this same strategy (they're trying to discourage people from fleeing the land they control; especially males of military age that they would rather pressgang into their forces) and they are hoping that an increase of racism will help radicalize more Muslims in western lands.
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inkjet_lakes posted:So err... Chances that bombing ISIS/ISIL/Daesh etc will achieve anything other than boost BaE share prices? Pretty much impossible to have any sensible attempt at debate here in the UK at present. Well if it sinks Captain Batshit of the Labour Party I'd consider it a plus, just based on that alone.
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gfanikf posted:Well if it sinks Captain Batshit of the Labour Party I'd consider it a plus, just based on that alone. If you support any politician in favour of austerity you hate the military, hth Also Corbyn was their best option, every other candidate for Labour leader was horrible.
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Forums Terrorist posted:If you support any politician in favour of austerity you hate the military, hth Is he the dinosaur that still thinks that labor lives in the era of coal miner unions or am I thinking of someone else?
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Forums Terrorist posted:If you support any politician in favour of austerity you hate the military, hth Cyrano4747 posted:Is he the dinosaur that still thinks that labor lives in the era of coal miner unions or am I thinking of someone else? I think he likes Marx a lot.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Is he the dinosaur that still thinks that labor lives in the era of coal miner unions or am I thinking of someone else? He's the dinosaur who got a landslide victory and is significantly responsible for bringing in more registered Labour members than there are in the entire Conservative party. I don't think people itt realise just how badly austerity has mauled large parts of Britain. gfanikf posted:Was everyone in else in Labour literally pants on head poo poo eating morons vs a pants on head moron? Imagine if the contest was Bernie Sanders versus 3 slightly dim polsci students doing really bad impressions of Tony Blair. Another factor is Miliband tried doing the "appeal to the middle" act and he was crushed outright. Labour's tried everything else, might as well try Socialist Grampa. Forums Terrorist fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Dec 2, 2015 |
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Cyrano4747 posted:Is he the dinosaur that still thinks that labor lives in the era of coal miner unions or am I thinking of someone else? Dinosaur is perhaps a little unfair, but only a little.
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Forums Terrorist posted:I don't think people itt realise just how badly austerity has mauled large parts of Britain. This is definitely the case.
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Read the article, but DO NOT watch the included  video unless you are a lover of gross poo poo. spoiler: There are PKK terrorists being turned to mulch if you click on the video when you get to the page. There is a good picture of the Skynet type weapon used to do in in the article though. https://www.funker530.com/pkk-fire-team-wiped-out-by-remote-weapon-system/
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Godholio posted:This is definitely the case. Like actually bad...or just equivalent to living in America?
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gfanikf posted:Like actually bad...or just equivalent to living in America? As in "significant parts of the poor are suffering from diseases normally only found in starving Africans". Or how the latest changes to how housing benefits works means half the population can't afford to live in most of Britain.
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e: ^^^ Jesus Christ  OK, that is worse than I thoughtForums Terrorist posted:I don't think people itt realise just how badly austerity has mauled large parts of Britain. Sadly, I do. If you compare the great depression vs. the great recession, Britain was actually doing better 8 years into the great depression compared to now. At least you guys are not on the euro
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I'm be a lot more positive about Corbyn if he didn't seem like he has some batshit views on defense. Like NATO withdrawal and unilateral nuclear disarmament batshit. And I say this as someone who thinks Cameron has been a disastrous moron when it comes to defense issues (lol retire the Harrier, who cares about continuity of experience for the new carriers).
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Corbyn's biggest strength (and also his biggest weakness) is he wants to keep the party from falling into Blair-style autocracy and loving it over when he leaves/is forced out. Hence the free vote on Syria, for example. In some ways this is good (Trident), in some it's bad (again, Syria).
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It's not that you can't make an argument that Britain would be better off packing in the Independent Deterrent, because you can (I don't personally agree with the idea for a lot of nebulous reasons I should probably think over more despite the issue being None Of My Business). However I doubt Labour would do the sensible thing and use the money saved on Trident to fund a comprehensive strengthening of their conventional forces (I'll give Cameron credit for actually making an attempt to do this with his latest funding increase, despite it being years too late and probably not enough to repair all the damage his bloody stupid 2010 Defence Review did). That money will just go to something else and the conventional forces will be as underfunded and threadbare as ever. Honestly Corbyn would probably do alright if there was a Jackie Fisher type in charge of the MOD. But there's a great shortage of Fishers these days.
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Thanks for the replies, not surprised by the outcome but personally I thought Cameron made the least convincing case of anyone who spoke today. In the grand tradition of this thread all I can say is, 'Guys, I'm concerned'.
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Nebakenezzer posted:e: ^^^ Jesus Christ Austerity. 
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I love that picture. It's almost as good agit-prop as Rich Kids of Instagram. Missing the context though: http://www.businessinsider.com/picture-of-david-cameron-calling-for-austerity-2013-11?IR=T
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Phone posting so I can't go full retard on austerity (my wife is disabled so believe me I want to), anyway exhibit two: http://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2014/12/uk-lords-reject-champagne-budget-cut/
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Forums Terrorist posted:I love that picture. It's almost as good agit-prop as Rich Kids of Instagram. "Austerity" is code word for "gently caress the poor", HTH.
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poisonpill posted:Cameron is being rather pig-headed about this entire situation. 
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inkjet_lakes posted:Phone posting so I can't go full retard on austerity (my wife is disabled so believe me I want to), anyway exhibit two: your wife is disabled?
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right arm posted:your wife is disabled? Is it a bug or a feature?
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:It's not that you can't make an argument that Britain would be better off packing in the Independent Deterrent, because you can (I don't personally agree with the idea for a lot of nebulous reasons I should probably think over more despite the issue being None Of My Business). However I doubt Labour would do the sensible thing and use the money saved on Trident to fund a comprehensive strengthening of their conventional forces (I'll give Cameron credit for actually making an attempt to do this with his latest funding increase, despite it being years too late and probably not enough to repair all the damage his bloody stupid 2010 Defence Review did). That money will just go to something else and the conventional forces will be as underfunded and threadbare as ever. You might be interested in this book, Cabinets and the Bomb. It uses declassified cabinet minutes and other documents to show the continued debate within government over whether to fund the development, upkeep, and then replacement of the nuclear deterrent, going back to 1940. It happens more under Labour governments, but every few years the Treasury wants to cancel it on the grounds of cost but the Foreign Office and MoD persuade them they're wrong. Incidentally, this rationale for Britain maintaining an independent deterrent actually turns out to have more than a grain of truth in it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX_d_vMKswE
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