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Gapey Joe Stalin posted:I am so tempted by that 2-up Beijing. Having seen the real thing at Invasion, it is indeed very pretty. Also large.
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Its worth noting that Hawk has confirmed that you can add on money to get more things in the pledge manager, and that the pledge manager will most likely run from shortly before new years and to the beginning of February. Makes it easier to get more stuff without spending a ton in one month.
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Dec 2, 2015 16:06
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Decided to drop down from the £150 Commodore and get a PHR starter fleet and a bunch of add-ons instead. Felt I was getting too many ships I'd never use. The station/launch assets/city blocks seem better to get.
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Pash posted:Its worth noting that Hawk has confirmed that you can add on money to get more things in the pledge manager, and that the pledge manager will most likely run from shortly before new years and to the beginning of February. Makes it easier to get more stuff without spending a ton in one month. Can you change pledge level in the manager though, ie up from Captain to Commodore, or are the levels locked in?
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Dec 2, 2015 16:55
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NTRabbit posted:Can you change pledge level in the manager though, ie up from Captain to Commodore, or are the levels locked in? No, you are locked into your pledge level but can purchase additional add ons in it.
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Just hit 500,000 GBP. I'm happy, gonna get frigated.Pash posted:Its worth noting that Hawk has confirmed that you can add on money to get more things in the pledge manager, and that the pledge manager will most likely run from shortly before new years and to the beginning of February. Makes it easier to get more stuff without spending a ton in one month. If this is the case, then I'll probably be able to justify picking up all the exclusive add-on cruisers and the civilian liner. We'll see how things go.
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Have they said how many ships you can make per frigate/cruiser sprue? I know each sprue comes with the parts to make every variant, but I'm not sure how many basic hulls you can make, ie I'm trying to find the value of a sprue, per all the stretch goals I'm assuming it's 3 cruisers per sprue and 4 frigates per sprue, the starter set numbers, but some of the cruisers seem a little on the large side to fit three to a sprue.
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Dec 2, 2015 18:53
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One cruiser (any variant) per sprue. Four frigates per sprue. No idea if you would be able to make all four of the same type or not.
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Dec 2, 2015 19:32
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Ugleb posted:One cruiser (any variant) per sprue. They said the frigate sprue should let you make four of any specific type.
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Hawk just put up another update showing off a couple of more PHR frigates:      Those little babby broadsides.  I also watched that PHR video in the last update. It's like 10 minutes long, but shows off how we can expect their cruisers to work. They purposefully set it up so that the PHR cruiser would move in between the two UCM ships and fire broadsides at each of them. It looked like it'll be kind of hard to pull off in an actual game, but really rewarding. What was kind of interesting was that it was mentioned that the PHR's burn-through laser is weaker than the UCM's. As a counter-point, they can slap it on a frigate.
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Safety Factor posted:What was kind of interesting was that it was mentioned that the PHR's burn-through laser is weaker than the UCM's. As a counter-point, they can slap it on a frigate. The moment that first frigate picture with the burn through laser showed up I knew they would have to be weaker... otherwise my strategy would be to just flood the board with burn through frigates (I still might).
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I was always under the impression that the acrylic tokens and faction dice are kickstarter exclusive but they aren't clearly marked as such and i guess they might not be? I could reduce the lump sum a bit in that case and there's one more Q&A coming up iirc.
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As someone said earlier, the Scourge Burn throughs are apparently weaker than UCM but multi shot, so I guess there will be racial variations on weapon systems. If the Pandora frigate is entirely built around a prow burn through laser with apparently no other weapons (which is awesome), I'm wondering what that is in the prow of the Europa to go with its medium sized broadside battery. Unless I'm misinterpreting things, the Medea Strike Carrier is all-flight decks with no guns of its own. Bistromatic posted:I was always under the impression that the acrylic tokens and faction dice are kickstarter exclusive but they aren't clearly marked as such and i guess they might not be? I could reduce the lump sum a bit in that case and there's one more Q&A coming up iirc. No I don't think they are. Fairly sure the acrylic tokens weren't to begin with but I'm not sure about the dice... Tbh I think it makes more sense not to limit them and start offering them as an extra product line for both games. Think the KS can raise £86k in the final 25hrs? Because if it does then we get free activation cards and don't need to worry about if they are actually worth buying or not! You all backed at high rank, right?  Speaking of which, let's reiterate the all important advice: make sure that you are backing at the pledge level you want before the KS ends. You will be able to add cash for bolt ons in the pledge manager afterwards but you will NOT be able to change your pledge level! Ugleb fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Dec 2, 2015 |
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Dec 2, 2015 22:39
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Ugleb posted:Unless I'm misinterpreting things, the Medea Strike Carrier is all-flight decks with no guns of its own. Pretty sure that picture has it having a gun for its forward arc, no idea what it does.
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Pash posted:Pretty sure that picture has it having a gun for its forward arc, no idea what it does. Yeah I'm not sure if that little bit is some sort of light gun or not. The Europa has that plus another thing so I dunno. Edit - just noticed something. On the Medea, are those railguns underslung beneath the hangar bays? This thing may be packing much more firepower than I first thought! Ugleb fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Dec 3, 2015 |
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I can see where you're getting that from, but I really can't tell from these angles.
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How do fighters work in this game? Seems like a couple of carrier frigates sending swarms from the back might be a good distraction to align cruisers and above for broadsides.
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ijyt posted:How do fighters work in this game? Seems like a couple of carrier frigates sending swarms from the back might be a good distraction to align cruisers and above for broadsides. As far as we know, fighters are basically point-defence buffs that a carrier grants to selected ships. Bombers are close-range weapon attacks that can hit stuff further away (possibly taking several turns to do so). Strike Carriers (the frigates) and Motherships however are purely for launching ground assaults from low orbit; I don't think they carry Launch Assets as well. From what we've seen so far, that appears to be the province of the cruiser-size (and apparently even bigger) Fleet Carriers.
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I'll admit to being confused on the point of what launches not-xwangs and what drops the infantry.
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It's possible Hawk themselves haven't decided yet. I think they commented earlier that Shaltari fighters were proving a pain to get right.
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The way I understand it it's Strike Carriers and Motherships for ground troops and Fleet Carriers for wangs. For Fleet Carriers im pretty sure we've only seem UCM and scourge that both have their hangars near their engine sections.
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We've seen a PHR "Vanguard Carrier" with flight deck modules in the cruiser gun slots. Given the faction's supposed preference for big ships, I imagine they'll have a battleship-scale carrier eventually. Possibly a battleship-scale mothership as well, to put all their troops in one basket. It's worth mentioning the Reconquest Phase 1 book has a fluff piece with a UCM scout ship scanning the Scourge fleet in orbit of Earth, and identifying two "Super-Dreadnought"-class ships. So the squids will be getting a doomsday ship down the line eventually.
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2hrs to go and £600,000 achieved! Also, these important clarifications posted so I reccommend you check your pledges RIGHT NOW. quote:Some Clarifications: Fun fact as my wife just asked, right now the average pledge is £160. So lots of big spending going on here! Ugleb fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Dec 3, 2015 |
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Here i was just hoping we'd get to the 500K for the free frigates  And i suspect there's lots of people splitting larger pledges, i'm doing that with a couple of friends.
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I'm cancelling my Captain pledge...and getting all the UCM, Scourge and Shaltari stuff from my friend's Admiral pledge and hopefully I'm free when the Beta Weekend happens. I was going to add on roughly £50 worth of stuff but with the Beta Weekend I'll give him about 200. We'll split the maps evenly, bolt on launch assets and bases as needed and he'll give me his shirt, and I'll add stuff like my own dice on his pledge manager when the time comes. Pretty good deal, right? Are you able to add extra KS exclusive models and display models?
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krushgroove posted:I'm cancelling my Captain pledge...and getting all the UCM, Scourge and Shaltari stuff from my friend's Admiral pledge and hopefully I'm free when the Beta Weekend happens. I was going to add on roughly £50 worth of stuff but with the Beta Weekend I'll give him about 200. We'll split the maps evenly, bolt on launch assets and bases as needed and he'll give me his shirt, and I'll add stuff like my own dice on his pledge manager when the time comes. You can bolt on anything that says bolt on next to it. Only thing you cant bolt on, I believe, is the Atlantis.
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Speaking of, I will gladly swap any of my free Shaltari/Scourge cruisers/frigates for PHR cruisers/frigates. Already planning to swap my UCM with a friend.
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I didn't need to cancel my pledge in the end, I'm pretty relived now that it has blown past £600k Is there any interest in organising swaps of sprues and starter fleets in this thread?
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Pash posted:You can bolt on anything that says bolt on next to it. Only thing you cant bolt on, I believe, is the Atlantis. That's cool then, and my buddy isn't interested in that so it's mine.
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These pledge levels just aren't very friendly to someone interested in Shaltari and PHR more than anything else. Commodore is too much, Lieutenant misses the stretches, Commander and Captain are the wrong armies.
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NTRabbit posted:These pledge levels just aren't very friendly to someone interested in Shaltari and PHR more than anything else. Commodore is too much, Lieutenant misses the stretches, Commander and Captain are the wrong armies. Grey & I are both going in at Commodore then he is taking all of the UCM/Scourge and I'm taking PHR/Shaltari. That works out pretty well other than we both get an Atlantis and there is a second UCM battlecruiser, which means we can't grab two of each and split evenly. So I'm keeping my Atlantis either as a painting project or to flip on ebay if the prices look tempting, then I'll just take one PHR Leonidas as I'm not as keen on the model compared to the Shaltari one (Adamant?). If we hadn't been able to do that then I would have been a sad panda struggling to get the factions I want without paying considerably more. I think it comes down to how Hawk designed the KS, they were very focused on funding the two player starter box and everything else was considered a bonus. I wonder how it would have looked if they just considered PHR/Shaltari to be a more central part of the whole thing. In other news, my oh my didn't today go well? quote:December 3, 2015
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I would have loved to get just the UCM and PHR, and couldn't justify the Commodore tier if I was also getting the display models. So I just went with the starter box pledge. I figure I'll buy the PHR bolt-on ship and wait to get the PHR starter when it goes to the shops at 10% off.
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For the plastic Dropzone Commander bits, is it necessary to wash the sprues before assembly? Painting thread mentioned something about mold remover spray.
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wdarkk posted:For the plastic Dropzone Commander bits, is it necessary to wash the sprues before assembly? Painting thread mentioned something about mold remover spray. I'd wash any plastic sprue in water with a bit of detergent anyway, whoever the manufacturer is. It gets rid of any residue and dust that could stop undercoat sticking properly.
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Thundercloud posted:I'd wash any plastic sprue in water with a bit of detergent anyway, whoever the manufacturer is. It gets rid of any residue and dust that could stop undercoat sticking properly. I'm still waffling about what I'm going to paint them, so I may play with them unpainted for a bit. Is that a problem?
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Shouldn't be, just wash them as normal before priming and it'll get rid of any traces of skin oils.
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NTRabbit posted:These pledge levels just aren't very friendly to someone interested in Shaltari and PHR more than anything else. Commodore is too much, Lieutenant misses the stretches, Commander and Captain are the wrong armies. Agreed. I would have backed this thing, but all I care about are my PHR broborgs and it's hard to just get that army. I'll just wait for the game to come out. I have enough toys as it is.
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Ugleb posted:Grey & I are both going in at Commodore then he is taking all of the UCM/Scourge and I'm taking PHR/Shaltari. That works out pretty well other than we both get an Atlantis and there is a second UCM battlecruiser, which means we can't grab two of each and split evenly. So I'm keeping my Atlantis either as a painting project or to flip on ebay if the prices look tempting, then I'll just take one PHR Leonidas as I'm not as keen on the model compared to the Shaltari one (Adamant?). I went in at Commander, but have been lusting after that Atlantis. I'll gladly take it off your hands for reasonable compensation. Would save me the trouble of fighting the eBay hordes.
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I'm very tempted to paint it up at some point and use it for scenarios, assuming I ever get through the mountain of frigates I'll be receiving! If not then I'll think about rehoming. It would be quite cool for my passenger liner to have its own escort...
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