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YOU TOLD ME IT WOULD BE LOVE DIDN'T YOU? WELL I'M loving DETERMINED!!!
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 Should have laid off the Glamburgers.
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Nov 27, 2015 02:48
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I replayed HLM2 and was surprised how much I enjoyed the Beard levels this time.
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Nov 30, 2015 01:45
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Skunkrocker posted:This is pretty much what I meant. The "improved" HLM2 levels will probably be terrible. Yeah, when did fans ever turn out a good mod? Just not possible.
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Nov 30, 2015 02:14
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Improbable Lobster posted:No one who thinks they can recreate and "improve" the base levels will actually be good enough at level design to do so Shrink the scale by 1/4-1/3, give half the gun enemies melee weapons and remove all of either the fat fucks or katana guys on a level. Easy.
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Nov 30, 2015 05:00
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Skyscraper posted:Yeah, when did fans ever turn out a good mod? Just not possible. Yeah, when they were creating their own content they come out great, but look at every World 1-1 remix on SMM. Suck. Pure suck. Make new stuff. Make new awesome exciting stuff. Please.
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Dec 1, 2015 00:09
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Skunkrocker posted:Yeah, when they were creating their own content they come out great, but look at every World 1-1 remix on SMM. Suck. Pure suck. Make new stuff. Make new awesome exciting stuff. Please. World 1-1 was pretty good to begin with. I think you're just noticing the general rule that 90-99% of anything that comes out is going to be crap. It applies, certainly, but it's not specific to an effort to level redesign.
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Dec 1, 2015 05:24
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Lacedaemonius posted:Shrink the scale by 1/4-1/3, give half the gun enemies melee weapons and remove all of either the fat fucks or katana guys on a level. Easy. This is literally what you and the other 6 guys think is good HOTLINE MIAMI design? Jesus.
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Dec 1, 2015 05:29
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Skyscraper posted:World 1-1 was pretty good to begin with. I think you're just noticing the general rule that 90-99% of anything that comes out is going to be crap. It applies, certainly, but it's not specific to an effort to level redesign. turboraton posted:
 Create something new and amazing, don't try to fix anything - even poo poo. You'll just make it worse.
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Dec 1, 2015 14:47
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There were too many offscreen attacks in HM2 but forcing you to switch between weapons was a natural and good move, IMO. Also generic melee enemies are basically fodder so whatever. I'd probably just design levels so that you don't have to look ahead all the time to not just get shot.
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Dec 1, 2015 15:02
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I too don't want any challenge in Holine Miami
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Dec 1, 2015 15:02
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Irony Be My Shield posted:There were too many offscreen attacks in HM2 but forcing you to switch between weapons was a natural and good move, IMO. Also generic melee enemies are basically fodder so whatever. This was my only issue in HM2
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Dec 1, 2015 15:03
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I'm going to see if I can make challenging ranged combat areas without having guys who can kill you offscreen without warning. I feel like it's possible but that it may lead to claustrophobic and ugly looking levels.
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Dec 1, 2015 15:24
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I'm going to see if I can make challenging ranged combat areas without having guys who can kill you offscreen without warning. I feel like it's possible but that it may lead to claustrophobic and ugly looking levels. It's entirely possible and was done very well with the first game.
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Dec 2, 2015 04:01
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Almost all of the first game was trivially easy though.
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Dec 2, 2015 04:07
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Why would I want to play through HM2 again after I suffered through the lovely versions, regardless of if it was fixed?
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Dec 2, 2015 04:48
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Why won't you play my Hotline Miami AU , that's oppressive
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Dec 2, 2015 05:25
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hotline miami australia sounds a little confusing budd
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Dec 2, 2015 05:26
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Coolguye posted:hotline miami australia sounds a little confusing budd It's literally just Mad Max.
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Dec 2, 2015 05:36
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Hotline Miami Australia would rule but only if you're an aboriginal in various animal masks carving a bloody swath through suburban aussie hipsters.
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Dec 2, 2015 05:44
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8 blessings, the Aussies were our allies the war against Russia
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Dec 2, 2015 06:03
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Sleeveless posted:Why would I want to play through HM2 again after I suffered through the lovely versions, regardless of if it was fixed? I don't know, why would you want to go back and play HLM1 after you finish it?
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Dec 2, 2015 16:41
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I love how you guys constantly bemoan HLM2 as something "broken" that needs to be fixed, and then go on about how when the level editor comes out that you'll do just that. Has it ever occurred to you that it's not broken?
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Dec 2, 2015 20:04
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Skunkrocker posted:I love how you guys constantly bemoan HLM2 as something "broken" that needs to be fixed, and then go on about how when the level editor comes out that you'll do just that. Has it ever occurred to you that it's not broken? poo poo dude maybe you're right. Maybe we're all wrong, maybe its all irrational, maybe the game is actually really glorious from start to finish--- *gets killed from completely off-screen 10 times in a row* Hmm, nope, don't think that theory pans out. Its not like its all bad or anything, I enjoyed the story a lot and some of the levels were cool and it tried a lot of different things. But there were a whole bunch of frustrating moments, way way way more than HM1. Its like HM2 is HM's version of Mario: The Lost Levels (AKA the real Mario 2) its just more of the same but harder, which isn't necessarily superior to the first in any way.
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Dec 2, 2015 20:23
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Skunkrocker posted:I love how you guys constantly bemoan HLM2 as something "broken" that needs to be fixed, and then go on about how when the level editor comes out that you'll do just that. Has it ever occurred to you that it's not broken? No, because I played it.
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Dec 2, 2015 20:24
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I played it too and it was an alright game 
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Dec 2, 2015 20:29
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Skunkrocker posted:I love how you guys constantly bemoan HLM2 as something "broken" that needs to be fixed, and then go on about how when the level editor comes out that you'll do just that. Has it ever occurred to you that it's not broken? Sykic posted:HotlineMiami2.gif      vvvv  To be clear, I agree with Zaphod that there are good moments of writing and gameplay, but they're absolutely mired in poor decisions about writing, design and implementation. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Dec 2, 2015 |
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Dec 2, 2015 20:34
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we get it, hotline miami 2 doesn't have shmup hitboxes
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Dec 2, 2015 20:36
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Discendo Vox posted:
Yes, but have you considered that it's not broken after all?
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Dec 2, 2015 20:41
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Instead of talking about how there is a cool new game that takes after the design of hotline miami, its time to repost the same tired gifs of the glitches one guy got once or that time when he TOTALLY SHOULDN'T HAVE loving DIED I WAS AROUND THE GODDAMN CORNER and complain about how the game is too different from first and also at the same time a complete rehash of the same game this thread is pathetic, somebody gas this poo poo already (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Dec 2, 2015 20:55
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Broseph Brostar posted:we get it, hotline miami 2 doesn't have shmup hitboxes There's also the swinging bats that go right through dudes and the bullets that pass through walls though  Broseph Brostar posted:Instead of talking about how there is a cool new game that takes after the design of hotline miami, its time to repost the same tired gifs of the glitches one guy got once or that time when he TOTALLY SHOULDN'T HAVE loving DIED I WAS AROUND THE GODDAMN CORNER and complain about how the game is too different from first and also at the same time a complete rehash of the same game Maybe you should, I dunno, post about it? Nah that's crazy talk. Clearly bitching until somebody else posts about it is the way to go 
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Dec 2, 2015 20:56
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Broseph Brostar posted:Instead of talking about how there is a cool new game that takes after the design of hotline miami, its time to repost the same tired gifs of the glitches one guy got once or that time when he TOTALLY SHOULDN'T HAVE loving DIED I WAS AROUND THE GODDAMN CORNER and complain about how the game is too different from first and also at the same time a complete rehash of the same game Hotline Kavkaz is not a cool game.
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Dec 2, 2015 21:04
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Broseph Brostar posted:Instead of talking about how there is a cool new game that takes after the design of hotline miami, its time to repost the same tired gifs of the glitches one guy got once or that time when he TOTALLY SHOULDN'T HAVE loving DIED I WAS AROUND THE GODDAMN CORNER and complain about how the game is too different from first and also at the same time a complete rehash of the same game Instead of making a thread for a cool new game I want to talk about I'm going to go in a thread for a completely different game and then complain that they're talking about that game instead of the new game I want to talk about. 
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Dec 2, 2015 21:08
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Broseph Brostar posted:Instead of talking about how there is a cool new game that takes after the design of hotline miami, its time to repost the same tired gifs of the glitches one guy got once or that time when he TOTALLY SHOULDN'T HAVE loving DIED I WAS AROUND THE GODDAMN CORNER and complain about how the game is too different from first and also at the same time a complete rehash of the same game oh hey skunkrocker signed into the wrong account
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Dec 2, 2015 22:12
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Hotline Miami 2 is one of my favorite games of this year and I still don't get the rabid need to defend it from any and all criticism. It is, at times, absolutely frustrating to play, and not everyone will want to put up with that. For what it's worth, they did fix a lot of the bugs regarding dogs chasing their owns tails and doors/doorways being death vortexes. I couldn't tell you if the hitboxes ever got changed, though, they never seemed to bother me when I played.
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Dec 2, 2015 22:36
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Improbable Lobster posted:I too don't want any challenge in Holine Miami
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Okay, I thought we were talking about level design. User made levels will be as buggy or worse. As far as the design goes about being shot off screen and all that... well, yeah, it's bullshit. I didn't like it either. However, it was the creators intent. You can't fix what isn't broken and improvements are based on preferred playstyle. What you think will improve Death Wish is different from what others think. Fundamentally any attempt to fix or improve what we all agree is terrible level design ultimately will fail. It is instead better, I feel, for you to create new levels with your own idea of fun and challenge for us to experience something amazing.
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Dec 3, 2015 00:57
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Skunkrocker you need to realize at some point that this thread is literally only alive because you can't stop having meltdowns in it solely because people who didn't like the game exist. This disappointing sequel is so forgettable that there's literally nothing to discuss until the level editor hits.
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Dec 3, 2015 01:04
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My memories of being shot down by countless off screen enemies are not "forgettable" you gaming history denial scum
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HOW ABOUT THAT MIAMI MUTILATOR HUH GUYS LET'S ALL TALK ABOUT THE MIAMI MUTILATOR NOW
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