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Zipline posted:Do you have to complete the 30 missions on one character, or is that per account? I'm having a difficult time figuring out which faction I want to play as. I've gathered that mechanically there's no difference but thematically they're worlds apart. Story is really really important to me, way more than gameplay or graphics, so it's an important decision. Story is very important- especially in TSW. Go Illuminati, no question. Kirsten Geary has way better lines than that stuffed suit R Sonnac. You'll feasibly have enough money to buy new threads around the time you finish the first zone, maybe even sooner depending on how much you prioritize it.
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Zipline posted:Do you have to complete the 30 missions on one character, or is that per account? I'm having a difficult time figuring out which faction I want to play as. I've gathered that mechanically there's no difference but thematically they're worlds apart. Story is really really important to me, way more than gameplay or graphics, so it's an important decision. Illuminati have the best handler, Templar have access to the best faction mission (Virgula Divine) and Dragon probably have the best 'faction' story and (Tokyo spoilers)win 'Tokyo'.
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Okay, so after playing the game for a bit, I have come to several interesting notes: 1. The minimum requirements are, as usual, more suggestion the fact, since despite telling me my PC is below it, the game still runs just fine. 2. There's appears to be some kind of bug or something that fucks up the audio in cut scenes big time. At best it's barely audible and distorted. At worst it's just gone. 3. The movement in the game is rather poorly made. Requiring keys to turn around and different ones to strafe left and right is just annoying to use. And 4. I have come to the conclusion that I don't like the Illuminati, at all. The whole "uniforms and sprawling offices" vibe off them just turns me off, big time. Guess I'll be going Dragon after all.
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Nov 30, 2015 14:58
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Nobody wins Tokyo. Especially not the players who have to deal with the godawful aegis system. Also keyboard turning is pretty bad, you might not want to do that 
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Nov 30, 2015 15:00
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That's not true, all of humanity wins Tokyo since the main thing it does is kill shitloads of Orochi who are sick assholes who just show up randomly and gently caress everything up for everybody.
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Jenx posted:Okay, so after playing the game for a bit, I have come to several interesting notes: I've experienced the audio bug to an extent. I've yet to nail down what causes it to occur, but I've messed with my audio settings to reduce the impact, while adding subtitles so I don't miss hearing as much. Minimum requirements are a bit odd - I've found that varying your direct X, or moving settings up and down for graphics can really alter performance - you may find that particle effects can cause issues, but only when you look in a specific direction (most commonly north, for some reason). Movement is a bit shoddy, and there's platforming quests/achievements in the game. You will come to despise them. Regarding the illuminati, the mission handler generally comes back with some amusing responses. I've found I like Sonnac as he has a dry sense of humour in his responses, which appeals to my enjoyment of Blackadder. The dragon? They're interesting.
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After some playing around with audio settings in the game and my PC I think I managed to fix it. It turns out my Realtek HD manager was set to a surround sound set up for....some reason. Once I turned that back to Stereo and turned the in-game audio to Stereo too it fixed everything up.
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Brave New World posted:Story is very important- especially in TSW. Go Illuminati, no question. Kirsten Geary has way better lines than that stuffed suit R Sonnac. I like sonnac more than geary, mainly because of the when he starts quoting literature or mentioning reading it after hearing your reports. He's a giant nerd and that's great. Also, since I got lifetime way back at launch and already bought all the content and the stealth hoverboard, and all the costumes I want, are any of these gambling boxes worth buying at all?
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Buy them if you like the costumes inside. Or don't. You can buy all that poo poo with Pax so blow whatever you have too much of. Gambling boxes here are what it says on the lid, just a piece of clothing and a token to get more with eventually and even the super rare stuff has a decent chance of dropping. If you're asking me which one has the best average Pax value no idea, I'd recommend waiting for the next one and selling the poo poo in it on launch day. Or if you just want to make people happy get a bunch of them in a raid and open one of the big boxes with them around, everybody gets free poo poo that way.
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The real secret of this world is that it's a bad game. 
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Flavor Truck posted:The real secret of this world is that it's a bad game. Hey man its not Big Rig trucking. "Flawed" game :P.
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Jenx posted:... You ... turn ... with your keyboard?? That's odd. You're far better off using a mouse and keyboard set, like usual for these MMO's. I'd even say that you should use an autohotkeys script to have a right mouse click toggle. Makes it much easier and smoother to use the mouse for looking.
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Bought a copy in the big holiday sale on Steam, just created my first Templar last night: seems fun so far! If nothing else I have been enjoying blowing up zombies in a ruined New England bed'n'breakfast town, and my super-classy Templar handler-guy. (Plus the 'training room' was pretty badass, conceptually.) Been following this build (Blade/Assault Rifle) to start; look reasonable? I'm sorely tempted to shift my focus to Shotgun/Hammer at least long enough to unlock the Templar Puritan deck's outfit, because gently caress these starter clothes, but I suspect that's not a very good idea in terms of both a smooth early-game experience and long-range effectiveness. 
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yegods posted:You ... turn ... with your keyboard?? That's odd. You're far better off using a mouse and keyboard set, like usual for these MMO's. I'd even say that you should use an autohotkeys script to have a right mouse click toggle. Makes it much easier and smoother to use the mouse for looking. Oh yeah, I turn with the mouse, although even then it's still rather poorly made. The game expects sudden movements from you in order to dodge attacks, but the way the camera works simply does not allow you do that, and keep any kind of sense of where you're looking. I got used to it fairly fast, but I feel like it could have been made better.
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Jenx posted:Oh yeah, I turn with the mouse, although even then it's still rather poorly made. The game expects sudden movements from you in order to dodge attacks, but the way the camera works simply does not allow you do that, and keep any kind of sense of where you're looking. I got used to it fairly fast, but I feel like it could have been made better. Not trying to be an rear end in a top hat, but you sound like you're completely new to MMOs or maybe even computer games in general(or maybe I'm misreading you). Always play MMOs, FPS, etc using the superior WASD + Mouse setup. Anything else is complete poo poo. Always keybind your powers to very convenient keys that you can access while WASDing your way around the battlefield. For example, I have every key anywhere near WASD bound to a power, with the exception of CAPS. Use a mouse with more than 2 buttons + wheel. Side buttons are a must for not sucking at MMOs. Bind those to your Bread & Butter attacks. Avoid activating powers by mouse clicking as much as humanly possible. For the most part, the only powers that you point & click with should be out-of-combat buffs and rarely used Oh poo poo buttons like your heal pots. In TSW, you dodge poo poo by double-tapping your movement keys(WASD). You don't have to be facing the direction that you dodge in. Brave New World fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Dec 3, 2015 |
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Brave New World posted:Not trying to be an rear end in a top hat, but you sound like you're completely new to MMOs or maybe even computer games in general(or maybe I'm misreading you). Always play MMOs, FPS, etc using the superior WASD + Mouse setup. Anything else is complete poo poo. Everything here is sound but the gaming mouse stuff is kind of superfluous and not equivalently important to the rest. People play at the highest tiers of content in games far harder than TSW without using MMO mice. It's not even hard. Efficient hotkeying and WASD+mouse is a must though.
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I used to run dungeons in this game with mostly with the keyboard. My left hand on WASD and my right on the num pad to activate abilities. I never liked the 50 button gaming mice (including the price of them). I only used the mouse now and again to straighten everything out when the camera went wonky. I can't remember how I did it, but I know I did. I now use a G13 and mouse and won't go back.
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Brave New World posted:Not trying to be an rear end in a top hat, but you sound like you're completely new to MMOs or maybe even computer games in general(or maybe I'm misreading you). Always play MMOs, FPS, etc using the superior WASD + Mouse setup. Anything else is complete poo poo. Well, you sort of succeeded at not sounding like an rear end in a top hat. No, I am neither new to MMOs, nor to video games. However I just find the default set up for TSW a bit annoying, especially when compared to most third person games I've played. After a lot of fiddling around with the thing, I managed to make it make some drat sense (for starters by just unbinding the the turn left/right keys from the keyboard entirely, because screw that noise) and the whole thing is playable enough right now. I am not saying I have no idea how to play the game, okay? All I'm saying is the default set up was basically useless. And while this might seem like a "well duh, just change it!" situation, most games are usually set up properly from the get go. Jenx fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Dec 3, 2015 |
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Jenx posted:Well, you sort of succeeded at not sounding like an rear end in a top hat. No, I am neither new to MMOs, nor to video games. However I just find the default set up for TSW a bit annoying, especially when compared to most third person games I've played. After a lot of fiddling around with the thing, I managed to make it make some drat sense (for starters by just unbinding the the turn left/right keys from the keyboard entirely, because screw that noise) and the whole thing is playable enough right now. He's kind of right though. Everything in this post pretty much says "I am new to MMOs or at the very least never learned how to play them". Turn left/turn right are a trap option in every MMO ever and yet they're still bound by default every time. TSW is not unusual in that. MMO default set ups are garbage and it's standard procedure to change them as soon as physically possible.
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He doesn't know poo poo though if you pick Illuminati loving Data trains you.
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The wife and I picked this up in the Steam sale. I have a chaos magic/pistol build that I was trying to do a tank/dps type character. My wife has a blood magic/fist weapon build that she is playing for healing/dps. We made it through the story and several side quests in Kingsmouth and have just arrived in The Savage Coast while following the main story arc. We are on Tier 10 of Dawning of an Endless Night and it and all the side quests are marked as Devastating. We can do some of the kill poo poo side quests but they are hard as gently caress. We are stuck on the main quest line because in the solo instance we die very quickly without each other. This makes me think we've missed quests somewhere somehow. I felt like we did a fair few back in Kingsmouth but it seems like we are really under geared or leveled for the zone we are in. Is there somewhere other than loot drops we should have gotten better stuff? Should we just turn around and go back to Kingsmouth to do a bunch of side quests or something? We are really enjoying the modern setting so far but a little frustrated at hitting this wall.
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There's an XP penalty on missions harder than normal: 5% for hard, 15% for very hard and a whopping 65% for devastating. It's designed to stop people from power-leveling by grouping with an endgame character or skipping zones and doing non-combat missions, but its main effect seems to be making normal leveling annoying. Between that and the experience curve expecting you to do significant chunk of the side missions, it's easy to fall behind. It's more likely an experience issue than a gear issue: you can do ok in most areas with gear a QL or two behind, but having a weapon skill below what an enemy expects decreases your hit chance against that enemy by quite a bit. As a side note, the game uses the highest of your two weapon skills for each weapon for this calculation, so it's worth it to, for instance, pick one of Calamity and Fleeting Fortress for Chaos and ignore the other until you get the first one to 10. Going back to Kingsmouth and doing some non-devastating side missions is likely your best bet. You might want to try the Kingsmouth dungeon, the Polaris, too. It'll get you better (blue) gear as well as XP. MMO grouping can be hit or miss of course, but I've only had good experiences with the Polaris while leveling, including back when I had no clue what I was doing. Also, your wife may want to swap builds. It's unlikely to be the reason that you ran into a wall now, but blood and fist aren't really the weapons for heal/dps hybrids. You end up doing less than half the healing of a healer and less than half the dps of a dps since you have to split your actions between healing and attacking, your gear between heal and attack rating and your passives between the two roles as well. Assault rifle leech healing lets you spend all your time on attacks that also heal and heal more the more damage that they do, making it a workable hybrid. Normally, I wouldn't normally give unsolicited build advice - it's fun playing around in such an open-ended skill system and figuring out what works on your own - but it's not clear early on how much assault rifle out-performs the other options for the hybrid role.
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Ok so we are just going to go back to Kingsmouth and do side quests and look for the dungeon then. I will probably have to look up a vendor guide or something to see if I can get her a rifle somewhere. I appreciate the input. I really wanted to go into the game blind so my wife and I could experience it together but I didn't realize it departed so much from the standard MMO formula.
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If the missions are "Devastating", there's one of two things wrong: 1 - You are looking at the wrong side missions. There are some Nightmare sections in each zone that contain endgame side missions. In Kingsmouth, this should be near the Airport. If the Story is Devastating, this isn't your problem. 2 - Your gear/SP is way behind. Make sure you are putting SP into your weapon skills (only 1 track per weapon, probably offensive for most weapons) and that you are putting SP into the Talisman tracks. You should be in mostly QL3 gear by the time you hit Savage Coast if I remember correctly. Here's a good post about which missions in Kingsmouth to go back and hit to get geared. Toshimo posted:If you are new to the game, tooling around Kingsmouth and suddenly realizing that your gear is lagging behind, here's a list of all the missions in Kingsmouth that have gear rewards:
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Nostalgia4Ass posted:Ok so we are just going to go back to Kingsmouth and do side quests and look for the dungeon then. I will probably have to look up a vendor guide or something to see if I can get her a rifle somewhere. I appreciate the input. I really wanted to go into the game blind so my wife and I could experience it together but I didn't realize it departed so much from the standard MMO formula. It honestly doesn't deviate very much. "Side" missions (the green ones) are pretty much for flavor only; you don't need to do any of them to progress. Doing exclusively the story, you may fall a bit behind, but knocking out a handful of "main" missions every so often will keep you up. Dungeons are 100% optional, but a good experience.
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You should want to do dungeons because the normal/elite ones are basically the best part of this game.
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What's the best way to find a group for dungeons? Also, I keep picking up weapon/talisman toolkits, but have no idea where to obtain anything better than "base" level materials to craft with. Is most of my gear going to come from drops/mission rewards, or am I expected to be upgrading poo poo as I go along?
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Ghost of Starman posted:What's the best way to find a group for dungeons? Crafting items is largely a wasted effort. You'll replace things with mission rewards and zone tokens (or maybe just buying stuff on the Auction House) more reasonably than crafting.
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Brave New World posted:In TSW, you dodge poo poo by double-tapping your movement keys(WASD). You don't have to be facing the direction that you dodge in. I'd recommend turning off the double-tap dodge right away, or you'll risk throwing your computer out the window when you hit the first stealth mission! It also helps save dodges for when you really need them. E: I started a new pistol/shotgun character and am most of the way through Egypt. I've gotten to the point where I've filled out most of the pistol/shotgun trees, but I haven't changed up my build in a long time. Any recommendations on improvements / things I should be shooting for? I'm currently running (solo): http://www.tsw-builder.com/#87v700800704702802806765a40p805801705612421332121a43 just swapping out the AoE for Breaching Shot and Deadly Aim whenever I feel like running a dungeon. It's worked well so far for everything that doesn't need healing (like multi-wave defenses with no pauses between waves), but I've also been slightly over-equipped for most content so far. Maybe try to base around weakness rather than shoe-horning affliction? Or sneaking in Seal the Deal? Stickman fucked around with this message at 09:44 on Dec 5, 2015 |
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Ghost of Starman posted:What's the best way to find a group for dungeons? Yeah, just buy greens off the auction house if you feel like something is lagging (or craft a green - usually cheap!) Until you hit QL10, you'll be replacing gear too fast to make it worth putting much effort in to. You should also have 300 black bullion about the time you hit level 10 in your weapons/talismans, which is enough to get a purple QL10 from the faction vendors (and then just buy a green/blue glyph off the AH). I'm not sure I totally recommend this yet - it made my repair bills shoot through the roof.
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Ghost of Starman posted:Also, I keep picking up weapon/talisman toolkits, but have no idea where to obtain anything better than "base" level materials to craft with. Is most of my gear going to come from drops/mission rewards, or am I expected to be upgrading poo poo as I go along? The previous advice about obtaining gear upgrades through mission rewards, dungeon drops and the auction house is spot on. Crafting weapons really only has a use at the end game and if you want a specific skin from a QL specific weapon. To address your concern about better than base level crafting materials, you can convert your base materials into a higher level at a 5:1 rate. You can also disassemble material into a lower grade at a 4:1 ratio. You can also disassemble useless weapons, talismans and potions for crafting materials.
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Stickman posted:Yeah, just buy greens off the auction house if you feel like something is lagging (or craft a green - usually cheap!) Until you hit QL10, you'll be replacing gear too fast to make it worth putting much effort in to. You should also have 300 black bullion about the time you hit level 10 in your weapons/talismans, which is enough to get a purple QL10 from the faction vendors (and then just buy a green/blue glyph off the AH). I'm not sure I totally recommend this yet - it made my repair bills shoot through the roof. You'll start making a lot of money just from missions in trans, I wouldn't worry about it too much.
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Yeah but the option to go straight for purpz can get pricey for a new or returning player and make missions straight up not worth doing because you may die. Or just get naked before doing sabotage stuff.
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If you're Illuminati I feel bad for you son, I'll invite you to Goonthulhu and being cabal-less won't be one (of your problems, idiot).
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So I just got back into TSW after being away since Issue 7. I like what they've done with it a lot. The new augment system adds some more depth to builds, the new issues are fantastic so far, and it seems as though they've streamlined the gear grind. I'm still roaming around in AR/Blood using suppressing fire and bloodshot since that was apparently a good build back in the day. I was apparently in Awful LLC which was empty so I've dropped that cabal for now. Eventually I think I'll need to figure out what builds to run and cabal to join for casual nightmare dungeons. But yeah, this is pretty fun.
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Dear Diary, Today I learned about Rockabilly from Japanese Elvis. He gave me a wicked boom box. While wandering Tokyo and blasting the TURBO BASS, I laid to rest a dancing zombie. It was a good day. Edit: I'm always impressed by the writing and storytelling in this game. It's good to see them add some humor into it. Propagandist fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Dec 8, 2015 |
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Propagandist posted:Dear Diary, Ricky is 3rd best NPC in the game, and thats only because they don't show more of him.
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I have to agree that's one of the greatest missions in the game now if only they could release poo poo more often I'd be really happy.
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I'm at least in the boat where I've not done any dungeons at all, so I've got a lot of content ahead of me to experience. I'm not sure where exactly to get started. I do know that I need to do some dungeons and then kill a gatekeeper in order to access NM dungeons and rake in sweet BBs. Do I need to do the normals, then elites, then gatemaster or should I skip the normals? I'm in QL10 blues with some 10.1 purples from the issues, and two QL10 purple custom weapons.
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