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Terrible Horse posted:I didn't get it either and "knows famous penny arcade panels" or whatever is a pretty niche prerequisite for a joke. It wasn't my original joke (but I'm glad people liked it), I said I copied it off of someone on Tumblr. But you're right, it can be improved. VV: Oh I know, I was mostly commenting on how Opposition and Browbeat don't fit super well. 
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Serperoth posted:It wasn't my original joke (but I'm glad people liked it), I said I copied it off of someone on Tumblr. I'm not making GBS threads on you for posting it, just glad someone else didnt get it because I felt dumb.
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Dec 3, 2015 22:59
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Chamale posted:Mishras Workshop I keep seeing necro, but no one has mentioned Yawgmoth's Bargain. Bargain seems a lot more busted and I know there's at least one deck that runs it in vintage, is necro just that much better?
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Dec 3, 2015 22:59
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MiddleEastBeast posted:I don't get it. 
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Dec 3, 2015 23:03
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MiddleEastBeast posted:A friend of mine passed me an Inferno Titan in M12 draft for that reason. I had a veteran player at my LGS pass me a Tasigur during our first Fate Reforged draft. When I asked him why, he said the card was poo poo. Then, he got mad with it jumped to $12 the next week. Some things just aren't obvious to some people without the meta evidence to show them whether a card is "good" or not.
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Dec 3, 2015 23:06
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Serperoth posted:It wasn't my original joke (but I'm glad people liked it), I said I copied it off of someone on Tumblr. I originally thought the joke was "Don't kill the messenger" lol
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Dec 3, 2015 23:06
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Terrible Horse posted:I originally thought the joke was "Don't kill the messenger" lol When I first saw it, I tried to see a combo. 
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Dec 3, 2015 23:07
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AlternateNu posted:I had a veteran player at my LGS pass me a Tasigur during our first Fate Reforged draft. When I asked him why, he said the card was poo poo. Then, he got mad with it jumped to $12 the next week. Some things just aren't obvious to some people without the meta evidence to show them whether a card is "good" or not.
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Dec 3, 2015 23:22
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People vastly underrate cost-reductions in general
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Dec 3, 2015 23:24
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GeneX posted:People vastly underrate cost-reductions in general Yeah all the recent delve cards had this. People saw Cruise as "Ancestral, if you get really super lucky" rather than "a pushed Inspiration or Divination that is sometimes Ancestral" The bannings of Cruise and Dig probably mean we won't see cards like it again soon, which is a shame because a couple broken cards every now and again is cool.
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Dec 3, 2015 23:33
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Terrible Horse posted:Yeah all the recent delve cards had this. People saw Cruise as "Ancestral, if you get really super lucky" rather than "a pushed Inspiration or Divination that is sometimes Ancestral" They were fine in standard, and I think that's all R&D really cares about. They don't really want old cards dictating what they can put in standard, and legacy and modern are big boys who can take care of themselves.
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Dec 3, 2015 23:45
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Dr. Stab posted:They were fine in standard, and I think that's all R&D really cares about. They don't really want old cards dictating what they can put in standard, and legacy and modern are big boys who can take care of themselves. I want to see Jeskai Ascendancy get its last hurrah before it rotates out into obscurity.
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Dec 3, 2015 23:46
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AlternateNu posted:I want to see Jeskai Ascendancy get its last hurrah before it rotates out into obscurity. Whatever happened to that being the one card from Khans that was totally going to break Modern? It's always sad at rotation to say goodbye to the cool rares that aren't quite good enough for modern and were powerful enough for Standard but just never had the right deck to go in.
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Dec 3, 2015 23:50
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Jeskai Ascendancy definitely got various hurrahs throughout the competitive scene, it was just never a dominant deck. For cool and powerful rare that never saw play, I think more people would go for Empty the Pits. Everyone was hyping that up.
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Dec 3, 2015 23:56
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Entropic posted:Whatever happened to that being the one card from Khans that was totally going to break Modern? I'm going to have this problem with Sarkhan Unbroken next year. 
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Dec 3, 2015 23:57
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Entropic posted:Whatever happened to that being the one card from Khans that was totally going to break Modern? Ascendancy did break modern for a while (as long as Cruise was still legal). But it was a 4 color monstrosity that could sometimes kill on turn 3.
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AlternateNu posted:I had a veteran player at my LGS pass me a Tasigur during our first Fate Reforged draft. When I asked him why, he said the card was poo poo. Then, he got mad with it jumped to $12 the next week. Some things just aren't obvious to some people without the meta evidence to show them whether a card is "good" or not.
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GeneX posted:People vastly underrate cost-reductions in general Cost-reduction is an easy concept to abuse and/or break in general, just look at Affinity, Delve, Phyrexian mana etc. You might even be able to consider Storm as a kind of cost-reduction since it lets you cast a given spell multiple times for less than it would if you were just casting multiple copies of the same card from your hand. A while back I had a whole thesis dreamed up in my head about how anything that skirts the in-game economy of "you can't get more value out of a card than what you put in" is going to eventually be broken under the right circumstances, but I forgot most of it (and also realized I shouldn't be putting this much thought into a card game for babies). I don't even know if that's the right way to describe what I'm talking about. E: Cascade too! Or at least Value All-Star BBE. C-Euro fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Dec 4, 2015 |
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Dec 4, 2015 00:33
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Count Bleck posted:I'm going to have this problem with Sarkhan Unbroken next year. it's in the name, man no false advertising or anything
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Dec 4, 2015 01:15
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Count Bleck posted:I'm going to have this problem with Sarkhan Unbroken next year. One of the guys at my LGS is playing him in a Modern RUG Goodstuff deck that he brewed up. Apparently to some level of success too. 
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C-Euro posted:Cost-reduction is an easy concept to abuse and/or break in general, just look at Affinity, Delve, Phyrexian mana etc. You might even be able to consider Storm as a kind of cost-reduction since it lets you cast a given spell multiple times for less than it would if you were just casting multiple copies of the same card from your hand. A while back I had a whole thesis dreamed up in my head about how anything that skirts the in-game economy of "you can't get more value out of a card than what you put in" is going to eventually be broken under the right circumstances, but I forgot most of it (and also realized I shouldn't be putting this much thought into a card game for babies). I don't even know if that's the right way to describe what I'm talking about. There's a theory that everything has a certain mana value, and the player who gets the most value is the one who wins. Something like Tarmogoyf is good because a 4/5 on the curve is 4.5 mana, so you're getting value - it's an extra 2.5 mana for just 1G. Healing Salve doesn't get played because gaining 3 life for a card is such a bad effect it's worth less than 0 mana.
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Dec 4, 2015 01:40
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I'd love to see a Flame's Journey. Same CMC as Treasure Cruise, but Red and dealing 4 damage.
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SaffronOlive posted:Obviously we cannot control what cards Wizards puts at Mythic. When it comes down to it, the choice is theirs and theirs alone. If they wanted, they could look at the Future Future League results, try to pick the 15 most playable Standard cards, and stick them all at Mythic Rare. We couldn't do a drat thing about it. You could not play standard
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AlternateNu posted:Ascendancy did break modern for a while (as long as Cruise was still legal). But it was a 4 color monstrosity that could sometimes kill on turn 3. Speak of the devil. CF posted a run of Modern Jeskai Ascendancy yesterday. I have to agree that it is more-or-less a bad twin deck at this point, but it looks fun to play even if going through the motions on MODO is a pain in the rear end.
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i'm really glad Dark Petition is seeing play in legacy and vintage while not really seeming to do anything in standard (don't know about modern but I assume it's not really being played there either) I don't know, I just find it cool when a card sees play in those formats but isn't really broken
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mandatory lesbian posted:i'm really glad Dark Petition is seeing play in legacy and vintage while not really seeming to do anything in standard (don't know about modern but I assume it's not really being played there either) I mentioned using petition in legacy storm when it first came out and I got shot down, so I'm glad too. It's a 2 mana tutor that doesn't require an empty hand when you're trying to go off.
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Dec 4, 2015 16:37
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Is no-banlist Affinity better than no-banlist Jeskai Ascendancy? Doing No Holds Barred Modern in a few weeks and forgot about the couple of weeks I had to deal with that deck.
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BizarroAzrael posted:Is no-banlist Affinity better than no-banlist Jeskai Ascendancy? Doing No Holds Barred Modern in a few weeks and forgot about the couple of weeks I had to deal with that deck. Play Hypergenesis. Edit- lol GonSmithe fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Dec 4, 2015 |
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If there's no banlist at all just play Hypergenesis. Otherwise I think Jeskai Ascendancy probably gets more out of having Ponder and Preordain, although Affinity certainly turns into a horrifying monster when it's got a full suite of artifact lands plus skullclamp.
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BizarroAzrael posted:Is no-banlist Affinity better than no-banlist Jeskai Ascendancy? Doing No Holds Barred Modern in a few weeks and forgot about the couple of weeks I had to deal with that deck. Play hypergenesis instead E: Hahaha
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Fingers McLongDong posted:I mentioned using petition in legacy storm when it first came out and I got shot down, so I'm glad too. It's a 2 mana tutor that doesn't require an empty hand when you're trying to go off. It's also way worse against soft counters, which isn't usually a weakness of storm. That said there isn't very much in the way of soft counters in vintage so it's especially obnoxious there.
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Dec 4, 2015 16:56
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I think the big factor is you only get to play with 1 LED in vintage, which makes Infernal Tutor pretty unusable.
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Dec 4, 2015 17:04
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 OK, that is sweet. 2016 GP Promo
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Dec 4, 2015 17:19
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The yarn ball wig fashion style is IN.
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Dec 4, 2015 17:23
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mcmagic posted:
It says Judge, not GP.
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Dec 4, 2015 17:25
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Is that supposed to be a germ token following her?
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Pussy Snorkel posted:It says Judge, not GP. IDK why it does but it's the GP Promo. http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/organized-play/2015-world-magic-cup-faq-and-more-2015-12-04 quote:Trick Jarrett @TrickMTG 54s55 seconds ago
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mcmagic posted:IDK why it does but it's the GP Promo. Fair enough!
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That is pretty sweet, but I was promoted to look at the 2016 GP schedule and now I'm sad. Why is the one in Atlanta always Limited??  Guess I'm traveling to Charlotte and Indy again.
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Pussy Snorkel posted:Fair enough! Besides, we just got Judge promos this year. I don't think they cycle through them that fast.
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