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Speleothing
May 6, 2008

Spare batteries are pretty key.

Shoeless posted:

Actual like or sarcastic like, I can't tell.

Well, ya see, the thing is that pg chasses don't actually have very good paths, since you're supposed to buy them. A couple have good combat stats, but most of them need the boosts from friendly Dominion.

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Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

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ignoring the pg chassis summon spells, the others sound pretty good. the game has always needed more high-level spell variety other then the Usual Suspects and it's not like balance is even a factor in this poo poo.

Finnish Flasher
Jul 16, 2008
Is blood saccing more effective if the priest has blood magic? Can I just recruit indie priests for that?

BurntCornMuffin
Jan 9, 2009


Finnish Flasher posted:

Is blood saccing more effective if the priest has blood magic? Can I just recruit indie priests for that?

Bloodsacs produce a temple check for each slave sacrificed, a priest may sacrifice up to its H level.

So no, more B won't help the sacrifice by itself, and yes, indies will do it, but since they are H1, they will only kill one girl at a time. Your prophet, on the other hand, is presumably H3, and can kill 3 as a result.

Finnish Flasher
Jul 16, 2008
Aight thanks!

jsoh
Mar 24, 2007

O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight
cross posting my terrible game: join my game its called Dominions four and its a bad nations game where you can only pick these nations with the gimmick being that you can not spend pretender design points to increase your dominion edit: abysia is banned dont pick abysia

jsoh fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Dec 3, 2015

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

Giant ants have ruined more games of CoE4 than any other source, including boredom.

The Sharmat
Sep 5, 2011

by Lowtax
Arcoscephale is a bad nation? Ur is a bad nation?

TheDemon
Dec 11, 2006

...on the plus side I'm feeling much more angry now than I expected so this totally helps me get in character.
I don't claim to understand how no one has picked Hinnom and stomped everyone else into paste yet in these bad nation games but apparently it's yet to occur.

jsoh
Mar 24, 2007

O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight
ma and la arco are bad nations. also as an addendum to that game: the earth snake is banned

Fat Samurai
Feb 16, 2011

To go quickly is foolish. To go slowly is prudent. Not to go; that is wisdom.

TheDemon posted:

I don't claim to understand how no one has picked Hinnom and stomped everyone else into paste yet in these bad nation games but apparently it's yet to occur.

In the one example I can think of, by having their cap end up with 200 unrest because pop-eating giants.

Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

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also lmao at ma r'lyeh, a usable nation, being on there instead of ea. you know. the one that can't even get out of the drat ocean.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

TheDemon posted:

I don't claim to understand how no one has picked Hinnom and stomped everyone else into paste yet in these bad nation games but apparently it's yet to occur.

I'm still waiting on people finding out Nazca is basically Ermor with wings and without annoying freespawn.

Bug Squash
Mar 18, 2009

I once conquered a Himmon that had gone to late game without apparently understanding that their troops ate people. Every province, even the cap, had near 0 population.
:psyduck:

LordLeckie
Nov 14, 2009

That 100 slave spell that constantly decreases enemy dominion and attacks people building temples or preachers seems a little too useful to go with blood saccing.

ChickenWing
Jul 22, 2010

:v:

It's incredibly good and funny that Diabl#### is going to win geneva convention.


Combined with my experience in waterbong, I think the Oceania has joined MA Pelagia on the List of Ocean Nations You Actually Sorta Should Pay Attention To.

Absum
May 28, 2013

waterbong is hosed up

you should always pay attention to amphibious ocean nations because they can easily get large even if they can only recruit things uw/coastal

ChickenWing
Jul 22, 2010

:v:

Absum posted:

waterbong is hosed up

you should always pay attention to amphibious ocean nations because they can easily get large even if they can only recruit things uw/coastal

waterbong is incredibly hosed up.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

ChickenWing posted:

It's incredibly good and funny that Diabl#### is going to win geneva convention.


Combined with my experience in waterbong, I think the Oceania has joined MA Pelagia on the List of Ocean Nations You Actually Sorta Should Pay Attention To.

I still hope geneva continues until I can fullfil my secret dream of sieging Xibalba with a thousand undead.

Decrepus
May 21, 2008

In the end, his dominion did not touch a single poster.


ChickenWing posted:

waterbong is incredibly hosed up.

:agreed:

Bug Squash
Mar 18, 2009

I thought all the water nations were unmitigated crap. Did they get a buff or has someone finally come up with a decent strategy for them?

ChickenWing
Jul 22, 2010

:v:

Recent patch gave UW nations a bunch of new crap and did a bit of an overhaul of Oceania

Decrepus
May 21, 2008

In the end, his dominion did not touch a single poster.


People pick underwater nations so their precious Simcity doesn't get interrupted and then can be annoying as gently caress without repercussions.

ChickenWing
Jul 22, 2010

:v:

Correct

Lord Koth
Jan 8, 2012

Patch also made it even more annoying for everyone else to invade underwater via adding the rusting mechanic, because making them even harder to attack was certainly what the game needed.

Hilariously, and just another example of how bad that patch change was even by Dominions standards, large amounts of MA and LA R'lyeh troops ALSO use iron weapons, which means they now have difficulties too.

Diabl0658
Dec 10, 2008

These are the games we play.
The patch gave Oceania a new mage called a Haliade, W2N2H2 with 110% chance of AWEN, aquatic only and not stealthy. She costs 330 gold and is honestly pretty useless.

Sirens and Capricorns also got chaos recruitment, but then their prices went up to compensate so really they just have higher upkeep now. They can also be recruited on the coast now. Its very minor changes overall, Oceania was always secretly a good nation and people just didn't know it.

Nuclearmonkee
Jun 10, 2009


Didn't they get some stat and res changes on some units? Oceania is still as lovely as before and should never win unless played very well.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Diabl0658 posted:

The patch gave Oceania a new mage called a Haliade, W2N2H2 with 110% chance of AWEN, aquatic only and not stealthy. She costs 330 gold and is honestly pretty useless.

Sirens and Capricorns also got chaos recruitment, but then their prices went up to compensate so really they just have higher upkeep now. They can also be recruited on the coast now. Its very minor changes overall, Oceania was always secretly a good nation and people just didn't know it.

Oceania's always been probably the best water nation.

GenericOverusedName
Nov 24, 2009

KUVA TEAM EPIC

fool_of_sound posted:

Oceania's always been probably the best water nation.

Not when I'm playing it!

Samog
Dec 13, 2006
At least I'm not an 07.

Agent Kool-Aid posted:

also lmao at ma r'lyeh, a usable nation, being on there instead of ea. you know. the one that can't even get out of the drat ocean.

thats exactly why ea rlyeh is not on the list friend

The Sharmat
Sep 5, 2011

by Lowtax
Any word on this apparently broken lovely patch getting fixed and the alleged part two of the UW patch?

Samog
Dec 13, 2006
At least I'm not an 07.
conquest of elysium 5 is just around the corner, gamer

TheDemon
Dec 11, 2006

...on the plus side I'm feeling much more angry now than I expected so this totally helps me get in character.
MA Oceania has always been good. IF you have a big ocean you can usually win the game without much contest unless someone is really running away on land. If you have a small ocean you are still as much a contender as any average land nation.

GenericOverusedName
Nov 24, 2009

KUVA TEAM EPIC

TheDemon posted:

MA Oceania has always been good. IF you have a big ocean you can usually win the game without much contest unless someone is really running away on land. If you have a small ocean you are still as much a contender as any average land nation.

Okay, but what if, and bear with me here, what if the player behind it is a complete idiot?

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

GenericOverusedName posted:

Okay, but what if, and bear with me here, what if the player behind it is a complete idiot?

But if you're playing ponymans you can't be playing Oceania??

TheDemon
Dec 11, 2006

...on the plus side I'm feeling much more angry now than I expected so this totally helps me get in character.

GenericOverusedName posted:

Okay, but what if, and bear with me here, what if the player behind it is a complete idiot?

Then you're as much a contender as any average land nation :rimshot:

Have Some Flowers!
Aug 27, 2004
Hey, I've got Navigate...
Terrainrec, the nation-draft game, is over. Party Thyme ascended on thrones. I had a miserable starting position, but stuck around longer than anyone else.

There was nothing learned worth sharing, but here are the graphs: http://imgur.com/a/Kzfe2. My actual income and gem income were more than double what the graph shows due to having several thousand firebirds generating ~2 pages of events each turn.

Lord Koth
Jan 8, 2012

Have Some Flowers! posted:

Terrainrec, the nation-draft game, is over. Party Thyme ascended on thrones. I had a miserable starting position, but stuck around longer than anyone else.

There was nothing learned worth sharing, but here are the graphs: http://imgur.com/a/Kzfe2. My actual income and gem income were more than double what the graph shows due to having several thousand firebirds generating ~2 pages of events each turn.

I would guess I'm the yellow line on the graphs? It'd sort of match the fact that I basically became completely indifferent at some point, partially due to AC going up, and was just messing around in my own area. Also the fact that I somehow never domkilled one cap I was sitting on top of and I have no clue where they had a candle left, and it took way too many turns to break down the walls. Was contemplating taking that one water throne from you last turn, but ultimately didn't bother.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
I put AC up AND became completely indifferent. I probably could have maybe won if I had bothered to stick around, considering I had a couple hundred heads of demon knights plus all the demon lords and heliophagii. i really should not have been allowed to survive as long as I did, considering my expansion was 11 provinces.

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Found this list in the china thread, looks like an excellent bunch of pretender names friends.

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