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Temper Trudeau posted:Dukat wept. And his tears fell quenching the soil Releketh did blossom and the famine abated Until they got wind of from who wept So they let it dry again And starved but with clean pa
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Shinjobi posted:I just saw "Measure of a Man" for the first time. I always tell people to just skip the first season except for like an episode or two Just not worth it and might put people off IMO It is super funny how they thought the Ferengi were gonna be these great major villains though
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Tujague posted:Maybe the new star trek captain should be a rapey, power-tripping coke fiend with a slowly rotting brain Please don't post your CV on the forums.
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I generally don't like TNG that much but Measure of a Man blew me away. It's solid tv.
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The TNGs I rewatch the most are the scifi mystery ones like "Clues" "Night Terrors" and "Remember me" The DS9s I tend to rewatch either have Garak in them, are heavily series arc based or largely based around Major Kira getting really pissed off My Voyagers usually take place in an alternate timeline or in a alternate universe or mostly time travel based. Plus they are a bit skewed towards the Doctor and Seven of Nine Enterprise; I generally just rewatch the Borg one and maybe the finale if I ever get the urge to self harm
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Enterprise: THE WHOLE SHOW WAS ON THE ENTERPRISE HOLODECK.
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Figaro posted:Enterprise; I generally just rewatch the Borg one and maybe the finale if I ever get the urge to self harm I thought the Borg were new and... Eeegh I know WHY they'd cram the Borg into a prequel show but, I dunno, not seen it. Maybe it's genuinely good and inventive.
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ChogsEnhour posted:I thought the Borg were new and... Eeegh I know WHY they'd cram the Borg into a prequel show but, I dunno, not seen it. Maybe it's genuinely good and inventive. Its quite literally the second best appearance the borg have had on Star Trek. It really shouldn't work, but it kind of does somehow.
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Does it explain why they're unheard of when they appear in NG? I don't mind spoilers. I'm interested, but I doubt I'd ever get around to watching the actual episode.
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ChogsEnhour posted:Does it explain why they're unheard of when they appear in NG? Its just three or four borg from First Contact who survive frozen in the arctic after their ship is destroyed. they assimilate some scientists who find the wreckage, take their ship and start heading towards the delta quadrant. The enterprise and earth can't figure out anything about them other than they're a few cybernetic beings with super advanced tech. They get blown up at the end and its hundreds of years prior to TNG so it seems plausible enough that nobody would have made the connection between them and the borg in TNG.
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That does sound pretty cool actually. Like The Thing or Mountains of Madness but with Borg and Scott Bakula.
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ChogsEnhour posted:Does it explain why they're unheard of when they appear in NG? To add to what others have said; I think it's established that whatever they are, they're trying to contact something in the delta quadrant, and it's unclear by the end of the episode if they succeeded or not, to further poo poo on the original "Q exposed humanity to the borg" story, but by the end of the episode everyone still had no idea what they were, so it makes sense that later in TNG people don't know what's up. It's still overall a pretty good episode, and a better premise than "Ferengi show up and take over the ship, but everyone's asleep, so it doesn't count as first contact."
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Yeah, I thought they handled the Borg as well as they could have in Enterprise. At least with the Borg they were supposed to be tens of thousands of light years away so it would be hundreds of years (if ever) before the next time they encountered each other. They didn't have that excuse when the Ferengi showed up. I do like how some nerds got really angry that the Borg showed up and they never said "We are the Borg" as though that makes it all excusable. What they didn't remember is that the Borg never say that in Q Who and Guinan has to fill them in.
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Yeah that's much better than what I expected. No idea why but I just presumed it would have went like, the Enterprise encounters "Primitive" borg, fights them off or they adapt and flee and then Scott Bakula goes, "Wipe the black box and everyone forget this ever happened because that was weeeeird. I hope we never see THOSE guys again!" As he stares off camera with a worried face. Fade to black.
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ChogsEnhour posted:Yeah that's much better than what I expected. That sort of emmy winning writing is saved for the ferengi episode. Something something REED ALERT, if only we had a directive or some sort.
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counterfeitsaint posted:REED ALERT. Giving a backstory to a real world term that's been used since at least the 1950s is one of the great mysteries of Enterprise.
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drilldo squirt posted:Enterprise: THE WHOLE SHOW WAS ON THE ENTERPRISE HOLODECK. That would own. Turns out the whole show was just the ship's janitors having delusions of granduer
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Figaro posted:Enterprise; I generally just rewatch the Borg one and maybe the finale if I ever get the urge to self harm Watch "In a Mirror, Darkly" parts 1 and 2 Long Live the Terran Empire
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Booblord Zagats posted:That would own. Turns out the whole show was just the ship's janitors having delusions of granduer Umm
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Booblord Zagats posted:That would own. Turns out the whole show was just the ship's janitors having delusions of granduer You see, at the end of the final episode we find Riker and Troi in the holodeck where they had been watching the show. We don't know if they watched the entire series, or just the last episode or what. It wasn't supposed to be a fictional program, it was supposed to be a historical reenactment thing, which since the events where hundreds of years before might not be completely accurate, thus covering any incongruities between Enterprise and later cannon. Except lots of things with the timewar and whatnot were things only Archer would know and he was supposed to keep them secret because of the temporal prime directive, so if they watched all 4 seasons where did that come from??? It was a pretty awful WTF capper to the show.
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Barclay watched it first and then decided to make it more exciting by adding all the Time War and Xindi poo poo to it.
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It was a love letter to the fans, what more do you want?  Also, Archer confided in his chef like he would confide in his bartender.
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EvilTaytoMan posted:Barclay watched it first and then decided to make it more exciting by adding all the Time War and Xindi poo poo to it. biogel and t'pol sex was all Riker tho.
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EvilTaytoMan posted:Barclay watched it first and then decided to make it more exciting by adding all the Time War and Xindi poo poo to it. I like that one better. Also he probably added all the T'Pol sex too. It fits his MO.
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Imagining all of Enterprise as Barclay's personally crafted historical fan fiction makes it all so much better. Thank you, everyone.
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Angela Christine posted:It was a pretty awful WTF capper to the show. I have this mental image of Rick Berman and Brannon Braga sitting around a conference room table. The show's being canceled, after ratings flagging for years going back into Voyager. The fans won't stop making GBS threads on them. It wasn't always like this. They remember when Captain Kirk and Captain Picard were on the cover of TIME Magazine. "Things were so much simpler back then. TNG was so much fun to work on. I wish we could just do TNG again."
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I have this mental image of Rick Berman and Brannon Braga sitting around a conference room table. The show's being canceled, after ratings flagging for years going back into Voyager. The fans won't stop making GBS threads on them. In my version of the fantasy, Berman then strangles Braga for alienating Ron Moore and not being able to keep his dick in his pants.
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CharlieWhiskey posted:In my version of the fantasy, Berman then strangles Braga for alienating Ron Moore and not being able to keep his dick in his pants. Remember, Braga whined that "Behr just came in and poo poo on everything we did", and Moore pretty well crapped all over Voyager in an interview.
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My Q-Face posted:I like that one better. Also he probably added all the T'Pol sex too. It fits his MO. Ooooooh, Barclay  
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Barclay making like weird submissive waifu versions of all of the female crew members was hilarious I think he also like programmed in a wimpy version of Riker to beat up and make him feel himself better Then he gets reprimanded for spending too much time in the holodeck
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The boys got into another scrap, I'm afraid. But boys will be boys.
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Germstore posted:biogel and t'pol sex was all Riker tho. Computer *beep* Increase programme sexiness by 10% *beep* And another 10% *beep* Increase by 20% this time *beep* oh gently caress it, increase by a further 160%. Ohhhhh yeah
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But who was responsible for Tucker mpreg though? Not really Barclay's thing IMO.
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Dear Captain Riker, I have reviewed the holodeck program you sent me, and while I appreciate that you are trying to help maintain my family's legacy, I have to ask what the gently caress? Sincerely, Charles Tucker XIII
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Monkey Fracas posted:Barclay making like weird submissive waifu versions of all of the female crew members was hilarious Wesley was supposed to be the vicarious mary sue for the kids in the audience, but the one we all related to was actually lt broccoli
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