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ok which one of you clowns did this: https://github.com/apple/swift/pull/17
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Symbolic Butt posted:ok which one of you clowns did this: https://github.com/apple/swift/pull/17 lol
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triple sulk posted:swift got open sourced it seems like (or will be) yeah their github just got updated a few minutes ago https://github.com/apple/ e: ninja'd from like half an hour ago
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Dec 3, 2015 18:37
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neat swift is fun to play with but I haven't tried actually making anything in it bigger than a toy
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Ludwig van Halen posted:doesn't node like fire up a whole freaking instance of chrome in order to do things it runs v8, which is the runtime that chrome uses. it does not run chrome.
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Symbolic Butt posted:ok which one of you clowns did this: https://github.com/apple/swift/pull/17 loving lol
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Luigi Thirty posted:i updated vs2015 to update 1 and now it doesn't work! it just freezes on startup gently caress it happened to me too repair did nothing, next i'm trying an uninstall and reinstall, if that fails too i guess it's back to emacs, a program which despite its flaws can at least be updated without breaking everything in undiagnosable ways
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Soricidus posted:Assertion Failed: Abort=Quit, Retry=Debug, Ignore=Continue it's from the debug build of the microsoft C runtime Soricidus posted:yes? that doesn't really excuse a crazy interface where the buttons have incorrect labels and the correct labels are given in the dialog title instead it's old code, really old, based on an even older function (MessageBox) which offers very little customization, but also the lowest overhead possible. specifically, it requires no GUI code in the caller aside from the call itself, which is as painless as calling say, Sleep. it's also the "most official" user interaction API available, headless machines can (could?) be configured to log the message and dismiss the dialog automatically without even showing it. it's also the only officially supported GUI available to service processes. it's a pretty sweet function actually, you can stick it anywhere for impromptu synchronous communication with the user, great for debugging and I miss it a lot on other platforms. I can live with fixed button labels
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I remember when poo poo would really get hosed in Windows 95 that I'd start seeing GPF errors in German
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Dec 3, 2015 23:59
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Symbolic Butt posted:ok which one of you clowns did this: https://github.com/apple/swift/pull/17 5'd
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Dec 4, 2015 00:31
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hackbunny posted:it's from the debug build of the microsoft C runtime i'm sure it's great for low-level c programming. what i don't understand is why does something like that get used when my .net code fails an assertion when running within the visual studio 2015 debugger? i don't get why it's using ancient low-level c runtime functionality instead of just raising an exception or something like everything else in .net. idk it's not a big deal it's just ... weird
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Dec 4, 2015 00:36
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whats a decent starter gui library in c++?
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Apocadall posted:whats a decent starter gui library in c++? there are none
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Apocadall posted:whats a decent starter gui library in c++? Cocoa on OS X, you use it from Objective-C though because it's better than C++ for UI work C++ refuses to implement the requisite dynamism for loose coupling between model and view/presentation, but you can mix C++ and Objective-C at the statement level using Objective-C++ and get the best of both worlds really not trolling here: Cocoa is the best way to create a native Mac interface (which will be the best personal computer interface), and ObjC++ makes it easy to wire that native UI to C++ model code
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Apocadall posted:whats a decent starter gui library in c++? a Windows Presentation Foundation wrapper for your c++ application like seriously there aren't any and don't bother unless you think you want to write Qt for the next decade Windows has MFC but there's no reason to learn it unless you're getting paid to write it
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make your GUI an HTML with JavaScript or whatever and have a c++ back end if u must
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Soricidus posted:what i don't understand is why does something like that get used when my .net code fails an assertion when running within the visual studio 2015 debugger? you mean Debug.Assert shows this? maybe the BCL people just cargo-culted the code from the C runtime, they do that a lot for the low level stuff. let's look at the code... no, it uses a breakpoint or throws an exception. either the code on github is different from the code they ship, or the assertion is coming from a lower level, maybe a native library
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Apocadall posted:whats a decent starter gui library in c++? Qt is alright
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https://github.com/apple/swift/pull/165 lmao
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I considered requesting an 'Other' gender option in our product, but reticence won over in the end
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Apocadall posted:whats a decent starter gui library in c++? Qt makes C++ more like Java, so its realyg ood
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me a dumbass was able to use Qt without too much trouble. there is some book that explains the signals and slots whatevers.
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comedy option: embed tcl/tk. i would maybe do that if it were an app for something Si tool related bc Tk is very needs suiting and in the Si industry only 90% of people sigh at the idea of Tcl instead of 100% of peopl
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Dec 4, 2015 16:06
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gonadic io posted:I considered requesting an 'Other' gender option in our product, but reticence won over in the end why not just not ask for gender at all?
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rrrrrrrrrrrt posted:why not just not ask for gender at all? thissery. srsly why is it needed unless its an input to the service that is being provided.
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Barnyard Protein posted:thissery. srsly why is it needed unless its an input to the service that is being provided. what if you need to ban trans people from using their new names like Facebook
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c bad programmer s: i really enjoy that every problem has already been solved in java's standard libraries, but often in a very poor way apparently 8 fixed their goddamn datetime/calendar monstrosity
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jesus christ. i keep forgetting that the answer to so many questions is that the world is soaked in terrible
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Share Bear posted:c bad programmer s: i really enjoy that every problem has already been solved in java's standard libraries, but often in a very poor way figuring out what to use and not to use is an exciting adventure. apache / guava are there for you where the JDK falls short
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Barnyard Protein posted:figuring out what to use and not to use is an exciting adventure. apache / guava are there for you where the JDK falls short yeah, apache's only failing is that their documentation can be incredibly bad/useless compared to oracle's
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rrrrrrrrrrrt posted:why not just not ask for gender at all? Tbf it probably has implications in terms of money laundering and credit score, not to mention part of identification from various agencies etc
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you know what i hate i hate academic code.
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fritz posted:you know what i hate same.
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gonadic io posted:Tbf it probably has implications in terms of money laundering and credit score, not to mention part of identification from various agencies etc it's probably not this
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so i got pretty deep into json schema and holy poo poo it's garbage and every implementation behaves differently.
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json is bad but its what you have to deal with when using javascript
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json schema is an oxymoron
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why does json exist? because someone decided xml was bad due to reasons? oh its a js thing nevermind that explains it
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yeah it's idiotic, but i thought it would be at least functional. If I'm going to be forced to consume json, i am very happy to use something that at least makes it predictable. as long as that thing is trivial to use.
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