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spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






I've found that the standalone client from supermicro works best. It's a java client, no browser and it comes with its own JRE so no loving around with installing old lovely java versions

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spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






IPMIView

https://www.supermicro.com/solutions/SMS_IPMI.cfm

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006

Potato Alley posted:

Also anyone who doesn't have a DRAC Enterprise equivalent in their server is literally a moron, I'm sorry but the $300 cost of that or whatever the equivalent iLO license is is a rounding error versus "poo poo I have to drive to the datacenter/office at 11 PM because I done hosed up" and I learned that the very first time I encountered a server that I thought had a DRAC but didn't. It's peace of mind and it's the second thing on my priority list for servers after redundant power.

Look at Mr. Fancy pants over here who can get his org to actually spend money.

I can't even convince my work to pay for an enterprise agreement with Microsoft. They are %100 OK with paying OEM prices and and paying some helpdesk guy to deal with the headache. And no they have never been audited yet....

GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007

Got passed up for the QA position. God damnit.

Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008

pixaal posted:

Also most people think Geek Squad is actually good. I get comments from the distant family that tell me I should apply for Geek Squad, they make so much! Yes they might charge you $200/hr but that guy isn't making that. It's seriously treated like the gold standard by a good number of non technical people.

lol, these same people are shocked when I say "If I see a resume from a geek squad employee I just shuck it in the trash."

That place gives negative experience. Like you could go in as a talented sysadmin and come out as a HR person.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

pixaal posted:

Also most people think Geek Squad is actually good. I get comments from the distant family that tell me I should apply for Geek Squad, they make so much! Yes they might charge you $200/hr but that guy isn't making that. It's seriously treated like the gold standard by a good number of non technical people.

When I first started looking in earnest for a job in NYC, more than one person asked if I had applied to work at TekServe.

pr0digal
Sep 12, 2008

Alan Rickman Overdrive

Inspector_666 posted:

When I first started looking in earnest for a job in NYC, more than one person asked if I had applied to work at TekServe.

Ah yes....TekServe. I've heard many an interesting story from clients about them (and their consulting branch T2)

And fun fact they did the ISIS install at my old company.

I'm doing an SAN expansion tonight and some people didn't get the "log out of your machine when you leave" message. Like for fucks sake people, every goddamn time.

pr0digal fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Dec 4, 2015

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

pr0digal posted:

Ah yes....TekServe. I've heard many an interesting story from clients about them (and their consulting branch T2)

And fun fact they did the ISIS install at my old company.

I'm doing an SAN expansion tonight and some people didn't get the "log out of your machine when you leave" message. Like for fucks sake people, every goddamn time.

This always ends in poo poo getting force rebooted and then people complaining MY IMPORTANT WORK THAT WAS LEFT OPEN WASNT SAVED WHERE IS IT and we go find their manager and let them explain why VASTLY IMPORTANT THINGS arent being saved.

OWLS!
Sep 17, 2009

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Inspector_666 posted:

How in the hell did somebody create a 30GB QB file?

Run 7 years of accounting for a growing-currently-medium voip provider.

I know, because our QB server has been screaming, putting in disk space tickets this whole week. Thankfully,

1) It's not my department's problem.
2) I'm on vacation. (Thank god for foodler password resets or I wouldn't have even logged into my corporate email at all!)
3) gently caress Quickbooks.

uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!

uPen posted:

Sony's out of warranty repair vendor is Geek Squad, what the gently caress?

Well swung on down to the Best Buy to get a quote on having them/Sony/whoever it is I'm dealing with replace the hard drive in this stupid all-in-one so I don't have to spend all my life disassembling it. Apparently Sony needs to give the Geek Squad written permission for each computer they repair on a case by case basis whether it's under warranty or not. I called Sony and asked and they said yes that's correct and it will take a week to get it to me. There was no mention of this from Sony during the initial call when they said gently caress you call best buy. I'm so glad this is the only Vaio any of our clients has.

MiniFoo
Dec 25, 2006

METHAMPHETAMINE

Welp, this is the last time I agree to upgrading an aluminum-unibody iMac to an SSD when they also want to keep their BootCamp partition. This office is too loving dusty; there's no way I'll be able to make sure the inside of the glass is clean enough.

[edit] I took out the HDD, hooked it up to my own computer alongside the SSD, booted into Clonezilla and did a straight-up disk-to-disk clone. I (finally) figured out the correct orientation of the mounting bracket, then put everything back together. It booted into OS X no problem, and I checked Disk Utility and saw both partitions. However, holding down the Option key on startup only shows "Macintosh" and "Recovery", no Windows. I mean, if all else fails I can now image the BootCamp side using WinClone or whatever and restore it, but is there any easier way that anybody here can think of? Maybe something to do with the UUID? I've still got the original HDD that's otherwise untouched, for what it's worth, and here's a screenshot as well:

MiniFoo fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Dec 5, 2015

Roargasm
Oct 21, 2010

Hate to sound sleazy
But tease me
I don't want it if it's that easy
Use the Disk Utility to clone it

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

:jpmf:

uPen posted:

Well swung on down to the Best Buy to get a quote on having them/Sony/whoever it is I'm dealing with replace the hard drive in this stupid all-in-one so I don't have to spend all my life disassembling it. Apparently Sony needs to give the Geek Squad written permission for each computer they repair on a case by case basis whether it's under warranty or not. I called Sony and asked and they said yes that's correct and it will take a week to get it to me. There was no mention of this from Sony during the initial call when they said gently caress you call best buy. I'm so glad this is the only Vaio any of our clients has.

See, that's the point at which I'd throw it in a dumpster and replace it, since that'd be faster.


This got posted in gbs but it's the kind of story this thread should love:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/12/04/sysadmins_100000_revenge_after_sudden_sacking/

quote:

This week, reader "James" has shared a story “from my days as a Sysadmin, at the dawn of the broadband area, when I worked for a very well known company supplying fantasy wargaming products.”

Said company decided it needed an office in Europe, supplied by a warehouse in Nottingham.

“To connect the sites, the ERP system needed a link between the sites,” James recalls. But the company's preferred telco was a few weeks away from launching its broadband product. The European office couldn't wait, however, so James “used an aggregated on-demand international ISDN connection so the databases could sync as required.”

“This was massively expensive, but was only needed for two weeks before we could place the order for broadband. The system worked fine unattended, and everyone was happy as the ERP system worked flawlessly.”

Despite the outbreak of happiness, “a week later the IT Manager called me into a meeting with HR to inform me I had been made redundant, effectively immediately.”

James was escorted from the premises by security and prevented from speaking to his colleagues.

Before he placed an order for broadband.

“Two months later,” James wrote, “I received a call from the horrified IT Director (the IT Manager himself had been made redundant straight after me), to ask if I knew why they faced an ISDN bill for over £100,000.”

Remember that bit at the start of the story about this happening at the “dawn of the broadband age”? Back then, data connections weren't cheap. So by marching James without a handover, his former employer had missed the chance to learn about the expensive ISDN connection.

“I had great delight in telling them I knew exactly why the bill was so large and had they not made me redundant they would have not blown the whole year's IT investment budget in a single month,” James recalls. “Even better, they had gone over the cancellation period, locking them into a year's contract.”

Failing to properly debrief James therefore became a very, very expensive mistake.

Sigma
Aug 24, 2003

...
Grimey Drawer
Put the old hard disk in an enclosure, boot to the recovery partition, open Disk Utility, and copy the old drive to the new one.

Basically any time you touch a Mac you are unfamiliar with, you should image the drive with Disk Image, since doing that makes it bootable.

Boogalo
Jul 8, 2012

Meep Meep




Check out DeployStudio to take images of each part of the drive and push them back down to the new one. It is what I used when Imaging our Macs. You can even restore each part seperately. It'll even run on a mac server and supports network booting to it. I just ran it off OSX installed on a usb stick.

BOOTY-ADE
Aug 30, 2006

BIG KOOL TELLIN' Y'ALL TO KEEP IT TIGHT

larchesdanrew posted:

I'll never escape my legacy.

Speaking of - any more crazy news from your insider at the old place? Has the station gone off air at random, or burned to the ground yet?

Mo_Steel
Mar 7, 2008

Let's Clock Into The Sunset Together

Fun Shoe

pixaal posted:

Also most people think Geek Squad is actually good. I get comments from the distant family that tell me I should apply for Geek Squad, they make so much! Yes they might charge you $200/hr but that guy isn't making that. It's seriously treated like the gold standard by a good number of non technical people.

The terribleness that is consumer level computer service providers has almost convinced me to try and start up a non-profit organization to do computer repair work at cost. It's pretty absurd what gets charged for swapping a laptop screen or transferring files from one PC to another.

RFC2324 posted:

FTFY

Plus, they never fall down.



:colbert: "A ticket came in: servers literally down."

PBS
Sep 21, 2015

Mo_Steel posted:

The terribleness that is consumer level computer service providers has almost convinced me to try and start up a non-profit organization to do computer repair work at cost. It's pretty absurd what gets charged for swapping a laptop screen or transferring files from one PC to another.

People would still think GS was better because it's more expensive.

Wrath of the Bitch King
May 11, 2005

Research confirms that black is a color like silver is a color, and that beyond black is clarity.
Do they still drive around those goofy little Beetles?

xsf421
Feb 17, 2011

Wrath of the Bitch King posted:

Do they still drive around those goofy little Beetles?

Yes, I saw one at my neighbor's place the week before thanksgiving.

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

Wrath of the Bitch King posted:

Do they still drive around those goofy little Beetles?

They got normal panel vans around me, I haven't seen one of those beetles in a long time

Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012

Mo_Steel posted:

The terribleness that is consumer level computer service providers has almost convinced me to try and start up a non-profit organization to do computer repair work at cost. It's pretty absurd what gets charged for swapping a laptop screen or transferring files from one PC to another.

My local shop is cheaper than most alternatives but we still have to charge for labor and stuff. There's just not a whole lot of money in it, and it's hard competing against Geek Squad.

stubblyhead
Sep 13, 2007

That is treason, Johnny!

Fun Shoe
Fun fact, Geek Squad does Best Buy's corporate IT. I did some consulting work with them about a year ago, they've got a very visible presence at their offices. Got a problem with your laptop? Call Geek Squad's extension!

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011



Javid posted:




This got posted in gbs but it's the kind of story this thread should love:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/12/04/sysadmins_100000_revenge_after_sudden_sacking/

I've read this several times now and I cannot stop laughing

E: mangled quote

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

SAVE THE BEES
PLANT MORE TREES
CLEAN THE SEAS
KISS TITTIESS




MrMojok posted:

I've read this several times now and I cannot stop

Not Wolverine
Jul 1, 2007
How common is it for employers to enact a white list VPN? drat thing seriously sucks right now, most vendor sights won't load, or they have <vendor>.<support>.com which links to <vendor>.<not on your white list so gently caress off>.com. This also sucks because of how Chrome's address bar will often use a google search so even typing in the exact address as it is on the white list still fucks up most of the time and I have to resort to 10,000 bookmarks to do my job. Is it like this everywhere or does my company just hate employees?

Agrikk
Oct 17, 2003

Take care with that! We have not fully ascertained its function, and the ticking is accelerating.

spankmeister posted:

Dude, supermicro's IPMI is terrible, like completely awful.

Seriously? Because this

spankmeister posted:

I've found that the standalone client from supermicro works best. It's a java client, no browser and it comes with its own JRE so no loving around with installing old lovely java versions

coupled with this


make it awesome

luminalflux
May 27, 2005



Make sure you have no sharp objects nearby and aren't generally predisposed to self-harm if you try to run that on a Mac.

Methylethylaldehyde
Oct 23, 2004

BAKA BAKA

luminalflux posted:

Make sure you have no sharp objects nearby and aren't generally predisposed to self-harm if you try to run that on a Mac.

If you try to do anything sys-admin-y on a Mac, be prepared to budget additional 'I-hate-this-poo poo-and-I-want-to-forgot' bottles, on an as needed or weekly basis. Half the poo poo barely runs as is on windows, special snowflake management tools on something that sees maybe 1/5th the development time? Ahahaha. No thanks.

ookiimarukochan
Apr 4, 2011

Crotch Fruit posted:

How common is it for employers to enact a white list VPN?

Many years ago I used to sometimes work at a client who were (by a long way) the largest DSL provider in the country, and the internet in their HQ only worked with whitelisted sites - and almost none of the links on their internal portal were whitelisted. Nor were any technical sites, so if you ever needed to google a problem you had to pull out your phone and go outside for a few minutes (the building was lead lined or something, poor network reachability on all 3 of the main mobile phone networks)

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Crotch Fruit posted:

How common is it for employers to enact a white list VPN? drat thing seriously sucks right now, most vendor sights won't load, or they have <vendor>.<support>.com which links to <vendor>.<not on your white list so gently caress off>.com. This also sucks because of how Chrome's address bar will often use a google search so even typing in the exact address as it is on the white list still fucks up most of the time and I have to resort to 10,000 bookmarks to do my job. Is it like this everywhere or does my company just hate employees?
Common? Probably way too common. The correct way to do it is to just funnel the VPN traffic through the same filtering proxy you funnel your regular web traffic through.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Agrikk posted:

Seriously? Because this


coupled with this


make it awesome

No it made it slightly better but I stll had issues with losing connection, slow connections, attaching iso not working etc. And no it wasn't due to network issues.

And the bmc on the servers themselves needed to be reset too a lot of the time because they'd simply stop working and often times in combination with kernel panicked servers so that meant logging into the PDU and power cycling the machine.

No, I have no love for supermicro's ipmi

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Crotch Fruit posted:

This also sucks because of how Chrome's address bar will often use a google search so even typing in the exact address as it is on the white list still fucks up most of the time and I have to resort to 10,000 bookmarks to do my job.

If you put a trailing forward slash ( / ) behind a url it doesn't do that.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

Javid posted:

See, that's the point at which I'd throw it in a dumpster and replace it, since that'd be faster.


This got posted in gbs but it's the kind of story this thread should love:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/12/04/sysadmins_100000_revenge_after_sudden_sacking/
I love poetic justice.

Mo_Steel posted:

The terribleness that is consumer level computer service providers has almost convinced me to try and start up a non-profit organization to do computer repair work at cost. It's pretty absurd what gets charged for swapping a laptop screen or transferring files from one PC to another.




:colbert: "A ticket came in: servers literally down."

I'm guessing to land in that position they literally fell out of the ceiling?

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


It looks like some cheap or poorly-installed raised flooring collapsed under it.

Storysmith
Dec 31, 2006

Methylethylaldehyde posted:

If you try to do anything sys-admin-y on a Mac, be prepared to budget additional 'I-hate-this-poo poo-and-I-want-to-forgot' bottles, on an as needed or weekly basis. Half the poo poo barely runs as is on windows, special snowflake management tools on something that sees maybe 1/5th the development time? Ahahaha. No thanks.

This hasn't been my experience on the operations side. The only thing I've used the Windows VM I keep hanging around for is NetApp configuration, and that's because I didn't bother trying it on OSX. DRACs, NFS, Cisco ASDM, MySQL Workbench, SQLDeveloper, puppet, it all works. (Well, SQLDeveloper is hot dogshit, but it's platform-agnostic hot dogshit.)
Granted, there may be selection bias, because one of the things that goes into a purchasing decision here is "can a Mac user do things with it?" and I don't administer Windows servers.

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof

Mo_Steel posted:

The terribleness that is consumer level computer service providers has almost convinced me to try and start up a non-profit organization to do computer repair work at cost. It's pretty absurd what gets charged for swapping a laptop screen or transferring files from one PC to another.




:colbert: "A ticket came in: servers literally down."

:vince:

HOW?

18 Character Limit
Apr 6, 2007

Screw you, Abed;
I can fix this!
Nap Ghost

My guess is that it's the floor support that appears to be not bolted to anything.

18 Character Limit fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Dec 6, 2015

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






They put the racks on the raised floor instead of stands that go down to the actual concrete floor.

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luminalflux
May 27, 2005



Methylethylaldehyde posted:

If you try to do anything sys-admin-y on a Mac, be prepared to budget additional 'I-hate-this-poo poo-and-I-want-to-forgot' bottles, on an as needed or weekly basis. Half the poo poo barely runs as is on windows, special snowflake management tools on something that sees maybe 1/5th the development time? Ahahaha. No thanks.

Like, 99% of my tools work great on Mac for sysadmining a large Linux setup (4k+ servers). It's just this one that was terrible. Coincidentally it was needed at a time when we had reimaged all our Macs and needed IPMIView (instead of the normal IPMI tools) so nobody actually had remembered which rubber chickens were needed to sacrifice to get that working.

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