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Paramemetic posted:In the lore, the dashboards are designed by the Pilots Federation and are universal. Pilots Federation (who you fly for) are a big enough thing in Elite to basically dictate How It's Gon' Be because they control all interstellar commerce, trucking, and so on. So they have a standardized, universal HUD that all ships will project, in order to be in conformance with the Union, basically. This is why even the SRV has a very similar HUD. Is it laziness? Partly, but it's also justified in the lore, so it's justified laziness? It's also a pretty rad hud to begin with.
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Libluini posted:I just tested this again to make sure. Don't waste time scanning all planets, only star systems count as a "report". The community goal is literally unable to discriminate between a star system filled with 99 Earth-like planets and and a star system with just the sun alone. sonofabitch So instead of asking for the most detailed data, it's asking for the least? I thought this was a way to ease explorers into scanning rocky/icy planets cause they'll matter in the expansion, but I guess not!
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http://gfycat.com/SmartDecimalHarrier Did no damage at all  Also sweet parking https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZS-xMUvpbY KakerMix fucked around with this message at 06:49 on Dec 5, 2015 |
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So I have my ship in Corolis and it says I should be fine running 2 shield boosts, power wise, when deployed. But in game I have to have them all turned off when deployed to have my fightin' gear powered. Is the site just vastly inaccurate or am I missing some thing? I have the same priorities both places. e: actually what the hell now I have no problems in game. I was having hell of problems a long time ago. Must have gotten drunk and upgraded my power plant or something stupid. Paramemetic posted:
Do Hazes give more per kill or something because I do 2-3m an hour in Hi murdering everything in sight. Hi is easy enough and comfortable but if the payout is 3x higher god drat Adult Sword Owner fucked around with this message at 08:54 on Dec 5, 2015 |
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Messing around in the Horizons beta https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PG5tiRTfp8
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Faulcon DeLacyGalaga Galaxian fucked around with this message at 09:03 on Dec 5, 2015 |
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:All the bindings at least have optional keyboard bindings, but if your computer recognizes the controller you have plugged in as a 360 it should show you options for “Default Context”, which is probably what you’re looking for. If you want to get more complicated, read on. Cool, thanks. I finally got around to loving around in the bindings file and changed some stuff more to my liking tonight, maybe I'll actually start playing the game this weekend
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Libluini posted:What was that planet in beta again which has everything? My local planet in beta has some annoying holes in its offerings. Shinrarta Dezhra?
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ohsosad posted:Ok so I've googled and searched for information on grinding imperial ranks for the clipper and am i right in believe that i just do poo poo loads of missions and ill eventually get an ascension mission? As a joke-option, you can try running missions for the Feds for a while. In my own experience, generally I got 3 Fed ranks for 1 Imp rank when doing Imp-missions and 3 Imp ranks for every 1 Fed rank when doing Fed missions. While grinding to get the rank for my Federal Assault Ship, I literally jumped up to Count. I think that's almost high enough to get the Imperial Cutter.  Grondoth posted:sonofabitch I think they want this to happen, but they forgot (or were unable to in the short timeframe) to change the programming for CGs, so since explorer-CGs can only count your reports, that's all what matters. no_recall posted:Shinrarta Dezhra? Thanks, but in the meantime I looked both of them up and of course went for the other one (L-something + number). Then I learned Dalton Gateway is 100k light seconds away. 
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Libluini posted:As a joke-option, you can try running missions for the Feds for a while. In my own experience, generally I got 3 Fed ranks for 1 Imp rank when doing Imp-missions and 3 Imp ranks for every 1 Fed rank when doing Fed missions. While grinding to get the rank for my Federal Assault Ship, I literally jumped up to Count.
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Mercurius posted:If you're trying to get there for fitting in the beta (Dalton has a garbage selection in live) you can just hop in a sidewinder, self destruct, choose to spawn at Trevithick Dock in LHS 3447 with the starting sidewinder and then fly the 10 LS or whatever it is to Dalton. Man, this would have been really good to know before I made the trip. Welp, too late now. But considering this is the beta and all, I'll definitely self-destruct when I want to go back test something else. You're like, two days late at this point, mate. VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV Libluini fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Dec 5, 2015 |
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Libluini posted:What was that planet in beta again which has everything? My local planet in beta has some annoying holes in its offerings.
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Is the game down? I received "Could not connect to the transaction server" or something while jumping into a system. Connecting to the game sits at the ship loading screen. Edit: Nevermind. Closing the launcher fixed it.
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I take it the Fed. Corvette is definately better than the Imp. Cutter for combat stuff, right? Has anyone tried both
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Surprise Giraffe posted:I take it the Fed. Corvette is definately better than the Imp. Cutter for combat stuff, right? Has anyone tried both It is better yeah, but the Cutter is the new premier cargo ship.
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Surprise Giraffe posted:I take it the Fed. Corvette is definately better than the Imp. Cutter for combat stuff, right? Has anyone tried both Yes. Fighting with the cutter is doable but it's a joyless experience.
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Some updates. Viper MK4 is a glorious of a ship for landings. Took out a Goliath with it weaving in and out of a side of a canyon like an Apache. Felt like a badass dodging the missiles. Smaller ships are definitely the thing for horizons. Only use case I see for large ships is in wings as support ships.
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Unkempt posted:Do fixed cannons take leading into account? I've got a fixed laser and a fixed cannon bound to the same fire button and it's just occurred to me that that may be very stupid. Yes. It should be a circular one. Lasers require no lead time. The one you are seeing should be explicitly for your cannon.
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no_recall posted:Yes. It should be a circular one. Lasers require no lead time. The one you are seeing should be explicitly for your cannon. So at least one of them is almost always going to miss... ah gently caress, that might explain some stuff.
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Unkempt posted:So at least one of them is almost always going to miss... ah gently caress, that might explain some stuff. Yeah. Put the laser on a gimbal or at least a a different fire group, or you'll miss 90% of your cannon shots. Or put the cannon on a gimbal, but you'd probably have better results doing it with the laser, seeing as gimballed cannons aren't the most accurate, not to mention the fact that no cannon types are very good at range, due to the low projectile speed, unlike lasers.
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I'm flying in my Imperial Eagle enjoying it's rad thruster power while planetside. You can fly in any direction at any pitch and roll and the Iggle will hold it's position, handy because you can fly upside down. Anyway I'm cruising along, looking 'up' at the planets surface. I'm looking for a rock outcropping to see if I can 1. spot it from my ship and 2. shoot it with my ship weapons and have it spawn the materials. I spot a 'point of interest', basically a USS but on a planet surface, shows up as this big blue disc. I slowly scan around trying to see what it is. Finding nothing in my ship I land, deploy my SRV. When the screen fades in and my SRV gets dropped down to the surface I'm greeted by a wrecked ship, 2 cargo canisters and 2 skimmers scanning me. I just landed and deployed and this wreck most definitely wasn't here as it's the size of my Imperial Eagle. Since I'm not about to shoot my precious SRV ammo at these skimmers when I have my ship right here, I redock with my ship, use my ship to destroy the skimmers, then redeploy my SRV. I get a black screen, 'couldn't communicate with server' error and the game crashes. Cool. I jump over to the bug report forums to see if anyone else is having these two issues, the ship not seeing POIs and the black screen SRV bug. I find the black screen bug, it's been reported already. I then find the POI-from-the-ship thread, cool it's already been reported as well. I click on this thread to see what people have found. Turns out a few people have noticed this, taken pictures and videos showing whole installations popping into existence as soon as they drop from their ship into their SRVs, mere meters from their ship they were just in. I read some more down.  
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Yeah, that is pretty dumb. I wonder what the justification is? That being in a ship would make them too easy to farm (like you'd want to)/identify/escape from?
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Yes. Or, if you're not satisfied with a merely joyless experience, try fighting with it in an asteroid belt, it's a buttclenching experience full of pain and regret. *do not do this
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Yeah, that is pretty dumb. I wonder what the justification is? That being in a ship would make them too easy to farm (like you'd want to)/identify/escape from? That's just it though, the moment you 'spawn' this event you can hop right back into your ship and use it to attack the event.
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The fact that you can't pay off a dormant bounty, especially if you got it for a stupid reason like accidentally hitting a cop with a laser in the midst of a firefight, pisses me off to no end. For low end players who can't afford to fight the cops it basically bans them from the system for a week until it becomes a legacy fine, which becomes rather troublesome when your ship is stored in that system. I've tried being scanned by a KWS but the dormant bounty doesn't show up, so being killed doesn't even remove it.
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Looks like I'm finally getting the hang of the game. After trying to grind missions and slowly eking out money, I finally upgraded to an Eagle. Spaph showed me the ropes and helped me leech some HAZRES (though I lost like 75% because I kept dying ) and tonight I solo leeched off some cops in normal RES and ended up winging with a pubbie. Now I have 1.5 mil which I know is peanuts for all of you but it's a lot for my newbie self to make in a day. I'm looking forward to finally buying my Cobra but drat if my Eagle isn't fun as hell to fly, especially after puttering away in a Sidewinder.
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Someone is sperging out hardcore on inara. That date range tho.
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Xtanstic posted:Looks like I'm finally getting the hang of the game. After trying to grind missions and slowly eking out money, I finally upgraded to an Eagle. Spaph showed me the ropes and helped me leech some HAZRES (though I lost like 75% because I kept dying poo poo i remember back in the day, when it took weeks to get 1.5 million credits  Speaking of eagles, does anyone know what the max size ship you can carry will be? I've seen "up to sidewinder-sized" mentioned before, but my dream is to have an eagle inside my anaconda 
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Rah! posted:poo poo i remember back in the day, when it took weeks to get 1.5 million credits
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Mercurius posted:As I understand it, it's just the Condor/Imperial Fighter (which are/will be available in CQC). Sandro recently said on one of the horizons streams they want to avoid a 'space turducken' moment where you could have a sidewinder loaded with an SRV in an Anaconda which would be a buggy inside a ship inside a ship. Figures. A space turducken would be extra fun, and we can't have extra fun now can we.
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Rah! posted:Figures. A space turducken would be extra fun, and we can't have extra fun now can we. Yeah that's the reason 
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Yeah that's the reason Surely I was being 100% serious. Still, a space turducken would be cool, and I wouldn't put it past frontier to reject something logical/plausible/potentially fun, simply as a low-effort way to balance things. It's not like they haven't done it before.
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Rah! posted:Surely I was being 100% serious. Still, a space turducken would be cool, and I wouldn't put it past frontier to reject something logical/plausible/potentially fun, simply as a low-effort way to balance things. It's not like they haven't done it before. Maybe they think their engine can't handle it or something, I dunno. There's no good design reason why not. Cathair fucked around with this message at 11:18 on Dec 6, 2015 |
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HiroProtagonist posted:Someone is sperging out hardcore on inara. That date range tho. I don't understand, that's what the logbook is there for: Write your own fiction about what happens to you. If there is something interesting in the posts itself, post them. There are hundreds of people who write a lot of log entries, me included: I probably have more then that guy, even.
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