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A little while back the middle eastern states were increasing production to push out the US producers, as the unconventional wells being used in the US have higher production costs. A large amount of wells are sitting stagnant until the return on investment picks up. I've heard that newer extraction methods have decreased the cost somewhat, so maybe it's a response that.
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Solemn Sloth posted:The first chance Howard got he loving burnt down the entire structure of industrial relations in this country. And sold everything that wasn't bolted down. Telstra alone could have brought in BILLIONS of dollars of revenue (not to mention drastically lowering the cost of constructing the NBN), but nope, we need tax cuts for the upper-middle classes!
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Actually I'm inclined to view Howard and Costello not investing any of the money from the mining boom/relative prosperity of that era into infrastructure and into developing new industries as one of the larger economic fuckups in Australian history
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ewe2 posted:Wouldn't the Russia-China oil pipeline offset this? And once the gas pipeline is up, I don't think Russia will be too worried. Pipeline isn't getting built because operating costs are more expensive than the current price of gas. So flag waving photo op and not much more at this point.
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Vladimir Poutine posted:Actually I'm inclined to view Howard and Costello not investing any of the money from the mining boom/relative prosperity of that era into infrastructure and into developing new industries as one of the larger economic fuckups in Australian history Yeah, squandering a massive loving resources boom is a pretty heinous fuckup. Even if Howard hadn't privatised telstra and irredeemably hosed communications infrastructure in this country Turdbull would still have done it anyway in 2017. EDIT: Calling it now btw. Death is Certain... again.
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I'd want to punch both Howard and Abbott in the face with approximately the same amount of force, but I feel like for different reasons. Howard I want to punch for purely political reasons. I'd probably hate him as a person too, yes, but the main reason to give him a solid what-for is because of what he did. He's the main reason that the country I live in and the future I have to look forward to are both utter poo poo; why I'm anxious, scared and depressed pretty much every day. It doesn't matter if he's a saint outside of that, I still want to infuse every ounce of my pain that can be directly traced to the lovely economic and political decisions he made into my fist and deliver it straight to his skull. Abbott's the other way around, I want to punch because he's just a poo poo person. Mercifully he never managed to really enact anything that hurt me; his election put an end to the good stuff Labor had going on, but that would've happened no matter who was helming the LNP, that's not really on him. If he had his way we'd be the worst country on Earth by all metrics, and certainly he tried (and got further than he should have, indirectly), but he was just too much of an utter fuckwad to pull it off. So that just leaves him as not just the worst Prime Minister we've ever had, but also the worst person who has ever been Prime Minister, which is a big distinction. I want to punch Turnbull for both of these reasons. Cleretic fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Dec 7, 2015 |
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QUACKTASTIC posted:Evil and dumb gives us Iraq No, evil and dumb gives the USA Iraq. Evil and "smart" gives us Iraq.
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Ugh, stop talking about Abbot, you morons. This thread is for talking about Hitler vs John Howard. And now that we're back on topic - who would win in a fight?
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BBJoey posted:abbott would never fight hitler because they'd both be members of the same political party Howard and Hitler are both well known for never trying to knife members of their own party. BlitzkriegOfColour posted:Ugh, stop talking about Abbot, you morons. This thread is for talking about Hitler vs John Howard. Hitler easily. Hitler was a not entirely inept soldier and spent a lot of time on the streets of Vienna. Howard lived with his mother til he was 30 and I've seen him try to bowl a cricket ball.
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JWH is just a conventional regressive shitlord in the Menzies mould who in terms of social policy lived with his mum well into his 30s and wanted to spray the whole country with formaldehyde, and economically was an orthodox neoliberal. I think he even described himself as such, he put forward conservative social policies as a nice warm familiar blanket for the voters while pressing forward with his real agenda in the form of tory economic policies. JWH is the master of reading which way the wedge was going and positioning himself on the right side of it. Tony Abbott is the exact opposite. His real agenda is born of his idiosyncratic yet devout Catholicism and economically he was of the BA Santamaria, DLP ilk. He is a faithful crusader and a political brawler who cannot countenance the idea that what he believes might be in any way wrong even in the face of opinion polling.
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Vladimir Poutine posted:Actually I'm inclined to view Howard and Costello not investing any of the money from the mining boom/relative prosperity of that era into infrastructure and into developing new industries as one of the larger economic fuckups in Australian history when you say infrastructure what you mean is civil construction right well from one point of view that is the absolute worst time because you are competing for the same pool of tradesmen, engineers, etc that are building the mines you will get poo poo value for money because everything is overpriced due to demand outstripping supply government investment should be countercyclical, the correct thing to do is what Rudd actually did, waited for the slowdown and then launched his Nation Building and Jobs Building the Education Revolution Pink Batts This is Communism plan that gave every house a safety hazard and every school a covered assembly area or whatever the gently caress it was
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hooman posted:If we're honest, most goons would lose a fistfight to hitler. Not me I am
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hooman posted:If we're honest, most goons would lose a fistfight to hitler. Especially if you take into account that Hitler was constantly methed out.
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EXAKT Science posted:Especially if you take into account that Hitler was constantly methed out. lmao if you're not methed out 24 loving 7 you loving squares
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Solemn Sloth posted:Howard and Hitler are both well known for never trying to knife members of their own party. I said Abbott would never fight Hitler, not that Hitler would never fight Abbott 
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Hockey officially has the thumbs up for US Ambassador in a shocking twist.
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Ambassador Joe Hockey ahahaha
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Birb Katter posted:Hockey officially has the thumbs up for US Ambassador in a shocking twist. I did nazi that coming wait
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Perhaps they've told him he has the job but they really gave it to somebody else. His office is fake and none of the phones or computers are plugged in.
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I enjoyed Leigh Sales talking to the PM last night. It was the first time I've seen him flustered. In parliament and media appearances he's so in control, but last night his smug bullshit didn't work. It was nice to see that he can (rarely) be a bumbling idiot spruiking slogans like the best (worst) of them. http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2015/s4367704.htm
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quote:Joe Hockey has said if he did not retire from the Parliament he would have been focused on "getting even with people" who contributed to his downfall as treasurer. Another note to add to the "Joe Hockey, pettiest man in politics" file. Can't say I'm surprised since the reason he got into politics is someone at the student union cafe wasn't deferential enough to him one time.
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Negligent posted:when you say infrastructure what you mean is civil construction right Yes, but the even worse thing to do is take the money and money from revenue generating asset sales and blow it on destroying your tax revenue base.
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SynthOrange posted:Ambassador Joe Hockey ahahaha I support moving Joe Hockey as far away from Australia as possible.
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Rougey posted:Statistically speaking and based on the general population of the US and number of incidents, are the odds of Joe being gunned down in a mass shooting? I think the real question is do you reckon you could convince conspiracy nutters that the Australian Embassy is a Muslim haven
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freebooter posted:I think maybe Howard was just a detestable man with regards to his horrible policies, whereas Abbott strikes one as a completely poo poo human being on almost every level, down to the most fundamental ways in which he interacted with other people. A swaggering, bullying, dick-swinging psychopath. but enough about my ex wife 
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Ooooh Baby  quote:NOTICE OF A DATA MATCHING PROGRAM http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/ATO-Notice-of-Data-Matching-Program.pdf I think some people are going to get caught out.
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Jumpingmanjim posted:Ooooh Baby They've also been collecting records of people who pay for private school from offshore accounts.
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Vladimir Poutine posted:Put it this way: imagine Abbott's response to the Port Arthur massacre "poo poo happens, doesn't it?"
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SynthOrange posted:Someone please turn down the thermostat Two nights ago here in Adelaide was the hottest night since like the 1870s. Last night, there was a thunderstorm. We've reached that point, right near the end of the year, when nature makes another attempt on the life of the entire country.
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Cleretic posted:Two nights ago here in Adelaide was the hottest night since like the 1870s. Last night, there was a thunderstorm. I like nerding out about the weather so I looked this up, so far this month Adelaide has had both it's lowest and highest December minimum on record  
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IANACS - This is due to the more energetic mixing of the cold and hot air masses. The increased energy in the atmosphere means cold air masses travel further than before, as do hot ones.
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So the ABC have commissioned a documentary about indigenous recognition - starring one Andrew Bolt.
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