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TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

jiffypop45 posted:

Lucy is already to Nami proportions. We don't need a contest between Oda and Mashima to see who can be more fan servicey.

Lucy will never be to Nami proportions

Eiichiro Oda posted:

D: Nice to meet you. This is sudden, but... please teach us a tip or two on how to draw that hawt hourglass body all ONE PIECE female characters seem to have! Make sure you don't forget to include them airbags ♡

P.N. If there's no bread, let them eat roses~

O: Yes. Hello. It's drawing time at the SBS segment. I would suggest that you think of a woman's proportions as "three circles, one X". Now if you'll excuse me, I'll be leaving.

(I only draw this kind of body, so I get a lot of complaint postcards from my female audience. Let's all stay strong and keep on living life.)

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Kyte
Nov 19, 2013

Never quacked for this
At least Mashima gives a passing nod to female anatomy and variety of form. :v:

kohon
Feb 26, 2015
I've only read through half of One Piece (up through Enies Lobby), but I don't think it's all that fan-servicey. Not close to Fairy Tail anyways... I've never really noticed clothes ripping off. As far as the female anatomy goes, I think it's just the art style.
I do enjoy reading the SBS's and how Oda plays off some of the ridiculous questions. The most recent one I read had a question concerning Robin's devil fruit power in relation to her boobs.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

kohon posted:

I've only read through half of One Piece (up through Enies Lobby), but I don't think it's all that fan-servicey. Not close to Fairy Tail anyways... I've never really noticed clothes ripping off. As far as the female anatomy goes, I think it's just the art style.
I do enjoy reading the SBS's and how Oda plays off some of the ridiculous questions. The most recent one I read had a question concerning Robin's devil fruit power in relation to her boobs.

It actually starts ramping up after EL.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK
Yeah Robin is about to get a nose job, some skin bleaching, and lose a lot of her style. Meanwhile all the other women are going to begin to look more and more like Nami. Also Nami and Robin gonna get huge titty increases.

Still, the manga itself doesn't really got that far into explicit fan service outside the general skimpiness of women's clothing. The anime on the other hand will learn to love the boob jiggle. I believe one of the movies actually opens with Nami's boobs jiggling with sound effects.

kohon
Feb 26, 2015
Yeah I knew the proportions were about to get ridiculous. But I thought that was the extent of fan service in One Piece.

Kyte
Nov 19, 2013

Never quacked for this
New chapter, the fight didn't complete as everyone expected, but it was by causes nobody (that I've seen) predicted.

Also friendship.

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012
That was a very good chapter by Fairy Tail standards. It tied together a bunch of dangling plot points (like the Dragon Slayers all being older than they look) and resolved the fight with a genuine emotional payoff.

Monaghan
Dec 29, 2006

Good chapter. I guess that explains why Natsu and Gajeel couldn't pass through Freed's barrier back in the day given that the condition was no one over 80 years old can pass through"

Mashima's obviously been planning that reveal for a while. Bit heavy on the exposition dump, but useful information nonetheless.

Kyte
Nov 19, 2013

Never quacked for this
Despite being a massive infodump that brought together pretty much every dangling plot thread together it didn't feel that heavy. Surprising.

Wonder if this means Mashima is preparing to end the manga in a year or two.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

I look forward to his next series, "15-17 Weekly Full Page Drawings of Breasts"

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

"Gah!!! This drawing of a beautiful woman who can bear healthy children offends me! Why can't these Orientals draw Dumpty hunchbacked ogres?!" - Low T Goons after taking some delicious estrogen laced water, courtesy of Dr. Isaac Shlomosteinberg

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.
The plot has gotten way better in the last year or so, I think Mashima must have resolved whatever plot knots he had created. The problem is that retroactively making a plot like the Tartaros arc interesting is that retroactively making arcs interesting is a lovely way to construct a plotline.

Also, :lol: at the resolution of the plot being prevented by Happy.

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

TheLovablePlutonis posted:

"Gah!!! This drawing of a beautiful woman who can bear healthy children offends me! Why can't these Orientals draw Dumpty hunchbacked ogres?!" - Low T Goons after taking some delicious estrogen laced water, courtesy of Dr. Isaac Shlomosteinberg

What makes you think that poster was ironic

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

TheKingofSprings posted:

What makes you think that poster was ironic

It's aimed at the thread as a whole

seizure later
Apr 18, 2007

TheLovablePlutonis posted:

"Gah!!! This drawing of a beautiful woman who can bear healthy children offends me! Why can't these Orientals draw Dumpty hunchbacked ogres?!" - Low T Goons after taking some delicious estrogen laced water, courtesy of Dr. Isaac Shlomosteinberg

don't defend those slit eyed rapists and their disgusting hobby.

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tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~

Rodyle posted:

I look forward to his next series, "15-17 Weekly Full Page Drawings of Breasts"

Don't be ridiculous - he has to spare some pages for butts too.

On a more serious note, I am actually looking forward to whatever new series he makes when Fairy Tail does wrap up. He seems to be a good ideas man who just doesn't have the talent to execute them well - at least not on a weekly schedule. Whenever he takes a break and comes back after a few weeks things seem to be decent for a while as far as I can recall. So I'm interested to see what ideas he comes up with for a few story and read the first year or so of it once it starts since Fairy Tail was pretty entertaining for the first while and sporadically so since then.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

I'd just straight up rather he do porn.

Kyte
Nov 19, 2013

Never quacked for this
Porn is not as lucrative though.

I suspect whatever he does afterwards will be a fairy tail spinoff, considering he started a whole franchise there.

Cipher Pol 9
Oct 9, 2006


It's difficult to do a shonen manga without constant threat escalation and power creep, but if he could dial it back a bit I wouldn't mind seeing stories of other guilds and general magic fights and hi-jinx.

Alpha Kenny Juan
Apr 11, 2007

Cipher Pol 9 posted:

It's difficult to do a shonen manga without constant threat escalation and power creep, but if he could dial it back a bit I wouldn't mind seeing stories of other guilds and general magic fights and hi-jinx.

Or double down and go full tilt like Toriko.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Kyte posted:

Porn is not as lucrative though.
Only if you aren't trying hard enough.

Ethiser
Dec 31, 2011

He should just release art books of dragons.

Zogundar
Dec 5, 2007
Doesn't the latest chapter introduce a pretty major plot hole?

So if END didn't start Tartaros and that was just Mard Geer being a crazy person that talked to books, how did Silver know END was a fire demon? You'd think if he knew that much he'd know END was Natsu and wouldn't have told Grey about this stuff in the first place.

I Love Annie May
Oct 10, 2012
Or he could just get published in Monthly Shonen Jump where he'll be free to draw tits and rear end to his heart's content.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

Zogundar posted:

Doesn't the latest chapter introduce a pretty major plot hole?

So if END didn't start Tartaros and that was just Mard Geer being a crazy person that talked to books, how did Silver know END was a fire demon? You'd think if he knew that much he'd know END was Natsu and wouldn't have told Grey about this stuff in the first place.

Maybe he just didn't know all that much?

Kuroyama
Sep 15, 2012
no fucking Anime in GiP
Yeah, Zeref's words seem to imply that Mard Geer used the name of E.N.D. to prop up Tartaros, but also that he didn't actually read the book himself.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK
I wonder, if you actually read the book is it just endlessly repeating the word FRIENDSHIP with occasional interruptions by GUILD, FAIRY TAIL, HAPPY, and a super scary fonted TRANSPORTATION.

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



Natsu, like Knuckles, can't read anyway. So it's probably just drawings of Ezra's butt and smiling happy, and then Happy scribbles in some fish.

Also there are probably some plotholes but it is impossible for me to care about such in fairy tail. Does this plot even make any sense? Did anyone read Zeref proclaiming Natsu can no longer kill him and go "yes. yes of course. this is a thing that will matter."

Kuroyama
Sep 15, 2012
no fucking Anime in GiP

Spiderdrake posted:

Also there are probably some plotholes but it is impossible for me to care about such in fairy tail. Does this plot even make any sense? Did anyone read Zeref proclaiming Natsu can no longer kill him and go "yes. yes of course. this is a thing that will matter."

It does matter, because it all but confirms the Zeref face turn, hooks back up with Mavis ending.

AndwhatIseeisme
Mar 30, 2010

Being alive is pretty much a constant stream of embarrassment.
Fun Shoe

Gyges posted:

I wonder, if you actually read the book is it just endlessly repeating the word FRIENDSHIP with occasional interruptions by GUILD, FAIRY TAIL, HAPPY, and a super scary fonted TRANSPORTATION.

Spiderdrake posted:

Natsu, like Knuckles, can't read anyway. So it's probably just drawings of Ezra's butt and smiling happy, and then Happy scribbles in some fish.

Combine these two ideas, and you realize the Book of END is actually the Fairy Tail manga itself.

Kuroyama
Sep 15, 2012
no fucking Anime in GiP

Kuroyama posted:

Yeah, Zeref's words seem to imply that Mard Geer used the name of E.N.D. to prop up Tartaros, but also that he didn't actually read the book himself.

Quoting to point out that Crunchroll's translation makes it clearer that this is the case. Mard Geer formed Tartaros, using the Book of E.N.D. for publicity.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Kuroyama posted:

Quoting to point out that Crunchroll's translation makes it clearer that this is the case. Mard Geer formed Tartaros, using the Book of E.N.D. for publicity.

Wasn't that some of the worst publicity in history since no one knew about E.N.D. until Mard Geer brought it up like 3/4 of the way through the arc?

Kuroyama
Sep 15, 2012
no fucking Anime in GiP
I didn't say it was good publicity.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

I believe the idea is he used it as publicity for the other Zeref demons. "Hey I'm the Master's greatest creation AND I have the OG Book Demon right here, let's work together to revive him."

jiffypop45
Dec 30, 2011

Crunchyroll got their poo poo together on translations? They used to be week behinds. I prefer their reader and translations but it was always so behind.

Kuroyama
Sep 15, 2012
no fucking Anime in GiP
Reminder that a lot of popular series get scanlations out before the official release. The recent crackdown on raw providers is putting scan releases much closer to the official versions.

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
That drat cat just destroyed the world.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

Kuroyama posted:

It does matter, because it all but confirms the Zeref face turn, hooks back up with Mavis ending.

He will 100% redeem himself before he dies.

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MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

Gyges posted:

Wasn't that some of the worst publicity in history since no one knew about E.N.D. until Mard Geer brought it up like 3/4 of the way through the arc?

Actually no it was good publicity as the situation was pretty much the opposite of what you just said. We knew about END before the Tartarus arc even started. END was constantly mentioned as the Master of Tartarus and the most powerful Zeref Demon. We did not know about Mard Geer who showed up about halfway through the Arc.

Anyway I assume Demon Stuff will happen with Natsu should the book be opened. As Zeref did tell Mard Geer before he killed him that he was close to reviving END. Added on Zeref himself implies that END is a separate entity from Natsu even if they share the same body. (What with him telling Natsu that in the end only him or END will be able to reach him. And he is curious about which one it will be.)

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