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TheFluff posted:I have a Radley-Walters in the LeFH. It's a retarded tank for assholes and you should buy it. I have 7 kills in the sexton 1. It's a retarded tank for assholes and you should buy it.
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Back before the leFH HEAT was nerfed to poo poo (from 150 pen to 104) I had two games in it, 4400 and 4200 damage. We nearly lost one of those due to me running out of ammo. The tank is bananas. Definitely worth buying, but do not be tricked into playing the French artillery line - the leFH and the tier 4 are the only useful members of the entire line. e: also 390m view range is great and the tank is good at shotgunning: 
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So I downloaded the test client and tried out the new Czech tier 10. First impressions: It is not a BatChat replacement, nor a T57 replacement or AMX50B and hardly a OP murder machine. It is fast, short clip reload, and short burst. Problems are rather the lack of armour, mediocre gun depression and the low burst damage. The tank does 1.2k damage in 6 seconds with a 20 s reload, which is nice, but not enough to kill a tank from full health. 20s clip reload is plenty of time to get killed on in tier10. The BatChat does 1.2k damage in 5.5 seconds, and have 2 more shots after that, but with a longer clip reload. Having a decent alfa per shot trumphs clip reload time in my opinion. The AMX50B does speed and great gun, the T57 does good clip reload, good pen and semireliable armour, while the BatChat can do 1.9k damage in a clip and then run away. The Czech tier10 seems in comparison more to be kind of a scavenger tank, by doing burst damage early game at range and then go in and kill of wounded tanks in the latter stages. Nota bene: I don't have BatChat, but I ran one while the Czech 10 was in battle, and the BatChat was a lot more enjoyable to play.
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I don't know what's worst, you guys sperging over an arty or me potentially buying it.
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It is the One True Arty, spergworthy and kopworthy.
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Dec 6, 2015 22:59
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I don't know what people are doing in the SP I C, because 3.5k damage and 1.2k base exp is only good enough for 1st Class. 
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Aw poo poo, I missed the Rudy on sale, drat you, root canal!
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http://wotreplays.com/site/2320086#stats Three Cromwell B in a tier8 game of Mountain Pass. We didn't carry hard or anything but it was a good time. The final fight was an anti-climax. We're about to round the corner on two tier8 heavies capping us and I kind of expected some excitement and then we all just sat there and shot them up before they even noticed and turned turrets on us  Edit: http://wotreplays.com/site/2320127#abbey-psykmoe-matilda_iv Top damage and Top Gun as a Matilda IV in a tier6 game 
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 900 games and my first Ace Tanker. Brothers in Arms came from a last second platoon invite from the other arty (who also racked up 3 kills)
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I haven't played this in a year, but I downloaded Steel Ocean recently and it made me want to play WoT really loving bad for some reason. Are there any new bullshit tanks (premium or otherwise) I need to watch out for and subsequently complain about facing? The first thing I noticed is that some of the tech trees now scroll and Russia has a poo poo ton of T7 and T8s and Germany has more T8s? Looks like there's more light tanks through T8 now too. Are they any good?
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Tsurupettan posted:I haven't played this in a year, but I downloaded Steel Ocean recently and it made me want to play WoT really loving bad for some reason. Are there any new bullshit tanks (premium or otherwise) I need to watch out for and subsequently complain about facing? No new really bullshit premium tanks I can think of since wargaming as been pretty set on making premium tanks just like normal tanks except slightly worse so people can't complain about pay-to-win. I guess the T28-30 (T28 with 85mm gun) is pretty OP, but the guy who was driving it was pretty good himself so welp. If you weren't there for the introduction of the second German TD line, be warned, they are loving bullshit min-maxing TDs that sacrifice armor and mobility for absurd camo and gun performance. WG tried the same thing with the second British TD line, but those aren't as annoying (though they are faster). There's also like 2 new french medium tanks that are basically Leopards except better in pretty much every way. And last but not least, there is a new japanese heavy tank branch that is gimmicky as gently caress (basically a branch of Mauses) but not threatening in my experience. The new light tanks are all pretty good/fun to play. I haven't played the T-54 light but it doesn't look to be too terrible. The RU251 is a very good light tank, with a good gun, great mobility and I think good camo (the tier 7 is however a bit trash and replaced goon favorite "Awful Panther"). The T49 is uh... the most retarded of the three, but also the most fun to play thanks to its retarded "all or nothing" 152mm gun : sometimes you miss your target and get murdered before you're even halfway done with your reload, sometimes you blap a WTE100 for 900 damage twice without it being able to do anything about it. Only light tank I ever got a "bombardier" award on too. Arty is still absolute trash though.
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Thanks for the info. Apparently my last battle was June 1st, 2014. Looks like the last thing I was working on was finishing up the T29. I should probably pick a brand new line and start from square 1 so that I don't ruin matches in my higher tier tanks. God, the Japanese tree has a T3 Heavy. Why do I have a feeling that's going to be the most awful thing to play. Could someone shoot a clan invite to Tsurupettan_SA on NA? I assume the go-to mod is still XVM? The mods post is about a year old now. Tsurupettan fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Dec 7, 2015 |
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The japanese tier 3 heavy is bearable, the tier 4 heavy is less so. Tier 3 and 4 are just speed bumps on the way to tier 5 in any case.
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Tsurupettan posted:I assume the go-to mod is still XVM? The mods post is about a year old now. Nowadays there are modpacks with installers where you pick and choose whatever you want, including XVM settings. Download either Aslains' or OMC modpack.
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Tsurupettan posted:Thanks for the info. Apparently my last battle was June 1st, 2014. Looks like the last thing I was working on was finishing up the T29. I should probably pick a brand new line and start from square 1 so that I don't ruin matches in my higher tier tanks. Invite sent, accept by logging in at worldoftanks.com. Go here for stronk modpak: http://odemmortis.com/odem-mortis-modpack/ The Jap heavies are fun, just skip to the tier 5.
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Descar posted:i dont think your playstyle suits the t28... sounds like you like being in the frontline, but the t28 is HUGE, no camo, no armor, no HP, no viewrange... you will die fast. Nah, it's literally because I was shitfaced and playing at a ridiculous hour of the morning. Besides, to be 2nd line in either of those two games I would have had to be able to hack my way behind the map border.
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KaiserSchnitzel posted:Nah, it's literally because I was shitfaced and playing at a ridiculous hour of the morning. I can confirm that this tank is bananas if you can position yourself well. Been averaging 500 damage a game, except when our top tiers opt to camp instead of pushing. Last night I should have carried a tier 5 game but made a dumb mistake creeping up on a 30 health Churchill I, losing. Still got 1200ish damage so while the gun handling, speed, and armor are all bad, they aren't debilitating.
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I've moved back from Canada to Western Australia so playing on the US server isn't really an option. I want to transfer my account to SEA do i just log a support ticket with SEA?
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Scapegoat posted:I've moved back from Canada to Western Australia so playing on the US server isn't really an option. I want to transfer my account to SEA do i just log a support ticket with SEA? Why don't you just embrace the sweet release from this terrible game?
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Tsurupettan posted:God, the Japanese tree has a T3 Heavy. Why do I have a feeling that's going to be the most awful thing to play. While the T3 and T4 are awful, the T5-7 (where I'm at at the moment) are absolutely amazing: The O-I Experimental gets the T-150 gun with slightly reduced pen at T5, or you can use a howitzer. It also weighs 100 tons and does 40 kph. It has some armor, but it's mostly a box so you won't be bouncing as much as you might be expecting from the stats. The O-I can either mount the KV-2 derp or basically the 107, it gets much upgraded armor scheme though. It's not quite as ridiculously fast, topping out at 30 kph but it's not bad. It also weighs 150 tons and will absolutely crush anything that you manage to ram. The O-Ni gets a better non-derp gun, ludicrous amount of armor and is a bit slower still. It can clear a flank on its own without much problem though. All of them have got above average view range for some reason as well.
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mmkay posted:All of them have got above average view range for some reason as well. They're super tall, it's a great vantage point for the commander! To that goon who soloed an O-I in his Excelsior because the O-I can't shoot normal-sized tanks rubbing against its 3-story sides, get a gif of that poo poo made!
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Psykmoe posted:They're super tall, it's a great vantage point for the commander! I've done that against a Maus in my IS-7. It is always hilarious.
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West007 posted:Why don't you just embrace the sweet release from this terrible game? I have for over a year, there are some tanks that are pretty fun to play though.
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E-100 The German E-series tanks (Entwicklung, "project") are especially renowned among German vehicle enthusiasts. The most famous of those is the heaviest of the proposals, the E-100. Alongside the Maus, this tank is often called a wonder weapon which would give the Third Reich a way to change the tide of war. In reality, the abilities of the tank are grossly overestimated. Additionally, the "canonical" history of its creation is omissions and mistakes. Even the external view of the tank, composed by Walther Spielberger, is not the same as what would have been in reality. Tiger-Maus In June of 1942, Porsche proposed its superheavy Maus tank. The draft was drastically different from what would eventually end up in metal. Outside, the tank was reminiscent of a larger Lowe, developed by Krupp. The initial design weighed 120 tons and had a 149 mm gun, 37 calibers in length. In June, on Hitler's orders, the armour was thickened, and a secondary turret with a 75 mm gun was added. It was decided that the proposed tank, already at 140 tons, would have to be redesigned. Effectively, it was going to be a whole new tank, with little of the original Tiger-Maus. Porsche's brainchild had to be altered, but this change of course sealed the fate of Krupp's design. The Lowe, a project in development since 1941, was cancelled in July of 1942. However, Krupp did not lose everything: they were still developing the turret and gun, and the hull production was going to start in Hessen anyway. The company still had hope that they could have their revenge and regain lost profits. The new round of competition between Krupp and Porsche started on September 11th, 1942. At a meeting between representatives of the 6th Weapons Department and Krupp representatives, the Maus turret was discussed. Lieutenant Colonel Fritz Holzhauer was worried about the many completely new components in Porsche's tank, including the engine. Lieutenant Colonel Felfert, responsible for Krupp's tank building branch, took full advantage of this fear. An alternative to Porsche's design was proposed, a tank that would weigh 150 tons and use as many components from the Tiger as possible. Holzhauer supported the idea and proposed that it be reviewed in a month. This was not the first time that Krupp made such a move. Six years before these events, Krupp, initially chosen as the producer of a turret for the BW medium tank (future PzIV) managed to get permission to produce two prototypes of an entire tank, and as a result beat out the Rheinmetall design. And now, under the excuse of simplification, Krupp was about to make a tank out of a turret. It is worth noting that the "Tiger" here is the Tiger II. This is clearly indicated by the mass of the "donor" vehicle in question: 65 tons. By mid-November, the alternative superheavy tank was ready. Unofficially, it was named "Tiger-Maus", but in NARA documents, it's called Krupp-Maus. Unlike Porsche, Krupp's engineers did not cover up the suspension with the hull. A unique solution allowed making the tank both wider than the railroad gauge and narrow enough to fit on a train. Like the Tiger and Tiger II, the tank had special transport tracks. Additionally, the sides were protected by armour plates, which could be removed for transport. The equipment to mount and demount the plates was attached to the turret. There were two versions of this project: blueprint W1671 proposed moving the turret back. This is about the same time as when Porsche's turret was moved (blueprint K3385, November 14th, 1942). Krupp's revenge did not work out from the beginning. Calculations showed that for a 150 ton Tiger-Maus, even an engine turbo-charged to 1000 hp would not give it a maximum speed over 20 kph. With a stock Maybach 230, the result was even more sad: an effective hp/ton of 4.51. To compare, the British Infantry Tank MkI had an effective power of 5.98 hp/ton, and could go no faster than 13 kph. A similar speed was predicted for the Tiger-Maus with Tiger II components. To summarize, the commission (which, by the way, included Ferdinand Porsche) saw more drawbacks than advantages in Krupp's proposal. A feverish search for a new engine began. Engines that were planned for the Maus worked, but they were not in mass production, and took away the major feature of the Tiger-Maus, the speed at which it could be put into production. Similar issues arose with the transmission and other components. The problem was compounded by the fact that the tank's mass grew month after month, reaching 170 tons in November. On November 30th, 1942, a draft of the 170 ton Tiger-Maus was made (blueprint W1674). The mass of the chassis was 122 tons, 82 of which were for the hull. The proposed engine was the MB.507, the same as on the Maus. The removable side armour concept remained. The road wheels were planned to be 650 mm in diameter, less than on the Tiger II. The result of the project review on December 1st, 1942, led by a key figure of the 6th Weapons Department, Heinrich Kniepkamp, was not promising. This Tiger-Maus was simply unnecessary, as it could not be rapidly put into production. With a mass of 170 tons, one could forget about using the engine, turning mechanism, transmission, or any other elements of the Tiger II. Only the reduction of mass by reducing side armour thickness was met with approval. One week later, on December 7th, Krupp proposed a new version of the project (blueprint W1677). The mass of the Tiger-Maus dropped to 130 tons, the wheels were increased to the same 800 mm diameter as on the Tiger II. According to calculations, the top speed of the tank would be 23 kph, but considering the effective power of 5.4 hp/ton, this was overly optimistic. At the same time, an alternative variant (W1681) was prepared with a rear turret. The commission that reviewed the project on December 8th immediately rejected the rear turret. The main variant was met with approval, as it reused many Tiger II components. The tank's suspension was to be torsion bar based, and a prototype was expected for fall of 1943. Kniepkamp and Krupp's joy was not meant to last. On December 15th, Holzhauer decided to keep only one Maus after consultation with the OKH. Hitler himself decided that Porsche's tank was more promising, and the Tiger-Maus was forgotten, only to later return under a different name. Aryan Rebranding In early March of 1944, Adlerwerke company from Frankfurt auf Main submitted blueprint 021A38300 for a super-heavy tank called E-100. This project would be the heaviest tank of the E-series, the idea of which was proposed by Kniepkamp in April of 1943 (in other sources, the E-100 project was started in June of 1943). The concept was for a series of vehicles with external suspension elements. The Adlerwerke team, headed by Karl Jenschke, would only work for the suspension, not only of the E-100, but of the E-75 and E-50. This is worth noting, as Adlerwerke is often credited with the E-50, E-75, and E-100 entirely, which is not correct. According to the blueprints, the 140 ton tank would be armed with a 149 mm gun and a 75 mm gun. Two types of engines were proposed: one was a 700 hp Maybach 230, with a transmission and turning mechanism borrowed from the Tiger II. The estimated top speed was 23 kph. The second variant would have a new 1200 hp Maybach engine. Nothing specific was said about its transmission or turning mechanism. The top speed of 40 kph, at 8.57 hp/ton, was also very optimistic. The tank's main feature was the already familiar removable side armour and transport tracks to reduce width. A maximum speed of 23 kph, removable armour, engine, transmission, and turning mechanism from the Tiger II? This seems very familiar. No, there was no mistake, this is almost an identical copy of the Tiger-Maus with a suspension from Adlerwerke. Instead of a torsion bar suspension, springs were proposed, and new 900 mm road wheels. The blueprint's authors did not even design a new turret: the Maus had an identical one on blueprint K3387, dated January 1st, 1943. The turret lasted for two weeks, after which it was replaced with a nearly year-old design: a 15 cm L/37 gun, one that was rejected in March of 1943. Kniepkamp did not try very hard conceal the fact that his "new" tank was a year-old project pulled out of the dusty closet. Initially, he tried to convince Holzhauer that this was a new tank developed by a new company. In reality, Krupp was behind this project, and the Tiger-Maus was resurrected due to the restart of the Maus program. Kniepkamp's logic was sound: the E-100 was a simpler and lighter superheavy tank. The tank would certainly not have received the same turret as in blueprint 021A38300. The 149 mm gun was rejected in March of 1943, and the turret itself changed significantly since then. In March of 1944, Krupp started work on a new turret, known as Maus II. The curved front was removed, the turret became easier to produce, and the guns (128 mm KwK L/55 and 75 mm KwK L/36) were placed on top of each other. Another important addition was a rangefinder. The E-100 was supposed to receive the same turret, but with a reduced mass to 35 tons. This was achieved by reducing the thickness of the side armour to 80 mm. Despite Kniepkamp and Krupp's enthusiasm, the E-100 was not seen as a magic solution to all problems. By spring of 1944, an experimental Maus prototype was driving around Boeblingen, and work on the second prototype already started. All components for Porsche's tank were more or less finalized. The idea of rapidly building a competitive tank based on Tiger II components became impossible. The difference in mass between 140 and 189 tons was not that much, as in either case, specialized train platforms would have to be used. Finally, the armour of the Maus, especially on the sides, was greater than that of its competitor. There was little necessity in the E-100. All that E-100 lobbyists managed was to receive permission to build one prototype with a dummy turret. This permission was given based on the potential use of the E-100 as a tank destroyer with either a 15 cm StuK L/63 or 17 cm StuK L/53 gun. It's evident that the first proposal was to install these guns in a rotating turret, but that trick would not fly. The Maus was not suitable as a chassis, as its hull was too tall. As a result, it was approved as a chassis for the StuG E-100. This was the purpose for which the chassis was being built, but Kniepkamp and Krupp retained hope that they could still push their tank through to replace the Maus. On July 10th, 1944, Hitler gave an order to stop work on all superheavy tanks and SPGs. The orders were followed, partially. Changes were still made to the Maus, to the point of replacing the gasoline engine with a diesel one. These changes only stopped when both prototypes were moved to Kummersdorf, where Porsche could no longer tinker with his "children". The situation with the E-100 was even more comical: while Porsche was secretly tuning his creation, its competitor was still secretly being assembled. The site of assembly was a Henschel proving ground in Haustenbeck, not far from Paderborn. This choice was not a coincidence: the project used Tiger II components, so Henschel was an interested party. Due to the critical situation on the front and overloaded production, assembly went slowly. By January 1945, the hull and engine compartment were mostly ready. The suspension was also partially assembled, but since Adlerwerke could only spare three men, and the springs were lost in the mail, it was not ready. Judging by the state of the tank after the war, the springs were never found. In May of 1945, the unfinished chassis fell into the hands of the Allies. The Americans limited themselves to examining the vehicles at Haustenbeck. The British had other plans. By the time the E-100 was captured, it was partially disassembled by Germans. It seems that the British managed to find the missing springs, since in the summer of 1945, the suspension was completed and the tank was pulled out of its garage. All available E-100 parts were loaded on a superheavy trailer, and the tank began its journey towards the home islands, along with many other vehicles from the test site. Tracks were not installed on the vehicle until it reached England. There are rumours that the tank underwent trials, but they are unwarranted. The tank remained at the Bovington school until the 1950s when it was sold for scrap metal, along with most vehicles that arrived from Haustenbeck. You may note that this story differs from the "canonial" one. Turns out, the perfect wonder-weapon was a rejected design that lobbyists tried to push through a second time. It had no advantages over the Maus. The E-100, as with the whole E-series, is one big question mark. As of March 1945, not a single E-series tank was listed in a production proposal, which speaks volumes.
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Psykmoe posted:They're super tall, it's a great vantage point for the commander! Oh yeah! That was hysterical! Still bad luck this week in tanks, doing well but losing more than I should. Been playing mostly bottom tier though.....
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I'm going to post a VK3002D replay because this tank is phenominal: http://wotreplays.com/site/2322393#redshire-chillsau-vk_30_02_d  like it is unreal how good this tank is. It's sole weakness is that it is very expensive to run and the effective lack of a higher pen gold round is a slight issue against big bricks, but even then I can just pretend I have the M41/T71 gun and no HEAT. I lost 27k on that match and have no regrets.
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For those tempted by the IS-2 that's about to go on sale, unless you're really desirous of that pre-loaded BiA skill, the KV-220 is really a much more chill augmenter to the Churchill III.
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I've got some fairly fond memories of my first time grinding the IS, so a version with the improved Chinese-style front plate but without the decreased Chinese gun depression and post-nerf HEAT shell looks pretty attractive to me even without the crew. And without wanting to take anything away from fun tier7 premiums like the E-25 or SU-122-44, I'm going to like having a tier7 premium with a turret that's less limited than the Warcrime Panther (which puts out less damage than many tier6 mediums). Psykmoe fucked around with this message at 14:09 on Dec 8, 2015 |
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EU has A45 + 3k gold  Holy poo poo it is amazing how much worse the "surprise offer every day!" format is than just listing what they're going to sell.
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Didn't krakk-dog say the a45 actually wasnt so atrocious? I'm actually sort of tempted, but struggling to justify it as im not playing much of tanks atm :'(
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Truck Stop Daddy posted:Didn't krakk-dog say the a45 actually wasnt so atrocious? I'm actually sort of tempted, but struggling to justify it as im not playing much of tanks atm :'( The only tank I remotely wanted was the Rudy. I missed out on the deal because I was busy, now I just get disappointed every day. I'm just an idiot who wants what he doesn't have. I should just play my E25, SU 122 44 or IS6.
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West007 posted:I'm just an idiot
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Darkrenown posted:EU has A45 + 3k gold Yeah we had the A45 on offer yesterday. Wow, you mean I can play an even slower version of the giant arty-bait that is the Centurion cardboard box hull? Where do I sign up?? Also  17 pounder with 0.39 accuracy for no reason when the Black Prince gets like 0.34. It's not like one might want at least a little accuracy when stuck with the worst pen and alpha of any heavy in the tier.If I want to run a 1500 hp sack of health with poo poo armor I'll just play my Tiger H and enjoy having an actually good gun
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It's fun to check in the morning, and there's been good stuff like the LeFH on offer already.
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I dont get the hate on the FV201, it seems decent
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Psykmoe posted:They're super tall, it's a great vantage point for the commander! 
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Descar posted:I dont get the hate on the FV201, it seems decent It doesn't have preferential MM...therefore it's bad because having a preferential MM tank means you're special and you've been playing this terrible game for far too long.
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DonkeyHotay posted:oh hay so the 110e5 is pretty good again. Yeah tier 9s not being able to consistently pen your cupola even with HEAT is really bad for players who aren't playing the E5. Tier 8 players have been getting poo poo on for years now though so the E5 is just one more monster on the pile for them.
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do you guys remember World of Warplanes? No? Yeah well why would you. Anyway they decided that the best way to increase their player base was by loving up the servers and making every match a laggy hell and they turned premium ammo and consumables into gold only. It's shame because for some weird reason i keep trying to like this lovely game. No WoT, i came back nad out of five games three ended with me being one hit by arty.
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