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Microsoft wasn't a total failure in the phone market back when the iPhone first came out. I knew a lot of people with Windows CE smartphones, and they were pretty cool for the time. HTC made a lot of popular ones. WindowsCE was pretty cool because you could run poo poo on your phone that was made 15 years earlier (aka the only reason people really use Microsoft stuff). Then after they killed Windows CE (Mobile 6.5 being the last version of it) they came out with Windows Mobile 7 (aka Windows Phone) which was compatible with absolutely nothing and sucked poo poo. I honestly think they would have been better off sticking with Windows CE. Phones became powerful enough that Windows CE would have sucked a bit less (lack of RAM was always a limiting factor for it). Shadow posted:Yeah, 2 USBs on my macbook air. They are able to see that USB dominates peripherals but simply refuse to see that mini USB is the de facto standard for mobile devices. It's absurd how anti-consumer Apple is. They don't look at the market to see what it wants. They tell it what it wants, and then you have their forums filled with brainwashed faggots telling you how you're using your laptop wrong lol absolutely this. I remember when the App Store would not let you see your previous purchase/download history. Apple fans would non-stop defend this poo poo with "if the app was really that important to you, you'd remember its name!! If you forgot it, then obviously it wasn't that important. Such a stupid spergy request god  "Also wanting to be able to turn wifi and Bluetooth on and off easily not that long ago meant you were using your device wrong too. Shadow posted:Alright, I'll accept that as a reason. It still sucks that I turn the phone off by mistake so often because of it being placed right opposite the volume button, but your explanation does make design sense. They can just place the loving power button on the right side of the phone but above the volume buttons to solve both problems but no. Oh and the funny thing about the lightning connector is that it's biggest appeal is being able to plug it in in any direction which is what USB-C is doing now anyway and is now a universal standard lol I love that the European Union said "gently caress you, Apple" and made them include a MicroUSB adapter with every phone. jenny jones fan fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Dec 7, 2015 |
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The worst thing about iPhones is in software - the music app has gotten progressively worse with each new update. Now it looks like they've killed Genius playlists altogether which sucks because that used to be my favorite way to listen to music.
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Dec 7, 2015 21:07
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Melmac posted:Microsoft wasn't a total failure in the phone market back when the iPhone first came out. I knew a lot of people with Windows CE smartphones, and they were pretty cool for the time. HTC made a lot of popular ones. WindowsCE was pretty cool because you could run poo poo on your phone that was made 15 years earlier (aka the only reason people really use Microsoft stuff). Then after they killed Windows CE (Mobile 6.5 being the last version of it) they came out with Windows Mobile 7 (aka Windows Phone) which was compatible with absolutely nothing and sucked poo poo. I honestly think they would have been better off sticking with Windows CE. Phones became powerful enough that Windows CE would have sucked a bit less (lack of RAM was always a limiting factor for it). iPhone 3GS-> 4S -> 5 -> 6  Melmac posted:
Uh... really? So you can get an iPhone that uses this USB-C connector? Um... can I? Ryoshi posted:The worst thing about iPhones is in software - the music app has gotten progressively worse with each new update. Now it looks like they've killed Genius playlists altogether which sucks because that used to be my favorite way to listen to music. Maybe Tim Cook's direction of "options" being more than the color will result in fixing these problems. How's jailbreaking lately? Maybe I just need to jailbreak my Macbook and iPhone. iPad I'm fine with because it's literally just a toy. Media, Shopping, and browsing so it's fine as is. Shadow fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Dec 7, 2015 |
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Dec 7, 2015 21:17
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Honestly, I've been an iphone person forever but when I went to the Verizon store to upgrade to the 6s plus, I got to playing around with the Galaxy s6+ edge and the fact that I could use the giant bowl full of mini USB cords on my desk was the deciding factor for me, and I can't see myself going back to the iphone unless they make some serious changes. Paired with the fact that I can use any old app for built-in needs (ie. different browsers, music players) without issue is almost liberating.
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Dec 7, 2015 21:18
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Ryoshi posted:The worst thing about iPhones is in software - the music app has gotten progressively worse with each new update. Now it looks like they've killed Genius playlists altogether which sucks because that used to be my favorite way to listen to music. lol yeah in my brief time with iPhone there were maybe 3 (three) programs available in the app store that were good for handling long MP3 files. "Bookmobile Audiobook" was the only one of three (3) to choose from, and I had nothing but problems with it (audio would not pause while GPS gave directions). On Android I have like literally 120 loving choices. God drat. Shadow posted:Uh... really? So you can get an iPhone that uses this USB-C connector? Um... can I? No, sorry. Only an adapter that the EU required for Apple to legally sell in the EU.
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Dec 7, 2015 23:40
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Shadow posted:lol what? they're getting rid of genius? I noticed it's sucked lately too but good christ. well yeah it interferes with their grand scheme of siphoning money via apple music somehow apple music, that wonderful service that locks up your entire music app for five minutes when it tries to phone home every time you accidentally brush the icon gently caress tim cook
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Dec 8, 2015 00:09
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Shadow posted:They are able to see that USB dominates peripherals but simply refuse to see that mini USB is the de facto standard for mobile devices. I feel like you must've meant micro usb, so now I'm going to say things that use mini/micro to differentiate incompatible hardware is terrible design. Which one is newer and smaller, mini usb or micro usb? What about motherboards, is mini ITX the smaller form factor or is it micro ATX? What about micro and mini SIM cards? Just use the SI scale, or come up with better names geez
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Dec 8, 2015 00:16
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"Yeah it's a micropenis, but I'm telling you guy with the minipenis is even smaller."
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Dec 8, 2015 00:18
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At least I can be pretty certain my micropenis is bigger than all the nanopenises out there
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Dec 8, 2015 00:21
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I read they were getting rid of the headphone jacks because they are too fat and phones are getting slimmer. Although I don't think I want a brittle phone that skinny.
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Dec 8, 2015 00:37
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Yes I meant micro stop being mean
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Dec 8, 2015 00:41
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Micro is smaller than mini how does anyone not know this
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Dec 8, 2015 03:05
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I'm not so torqued over top/bottom placements as the left/right. The way the power and volume buttons are situated to your fingertips grasping the phone is great if one is a rightie. Lefties get the weird contortions fumbling with the off-hand. Sometimes you actually do press the right button on the first try. Usually I don't.
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Dec 8, 2015 06:14
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The one advantage to Windows phone is that you can get a cheap Nokia for like 40 dollars that will hand the rear end to most 40 dollar Android phones. And sure the amount of Apps it runs is technically less but cheap android phones are so bad that you weren't going to be able to run any apps on them anyways and Windows Phone covers all the bare essential apps people care about (Pandora, Spotify, WhatsApp, etc). IDK, I don't really use my phone for more than casual internet browsing, texting and playing the occasional gameboy game so maybe I'm the target market for Windows phone since mine runs fast, does everything I want quickly, never hangs or crashes and has decent battery life.
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Dec 8, 2015 11:29
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El Estrago Bonito posted:The one advantage to Windows phone is that you can get a cheap Nokia for like 40 dollars that will hand the rear end to most 40 dollar Android phones. And sure the amount of Apps it runs is technically less but cheap android phones are so bad that you weren't going to be able to run any apps on them anyways and Windows Phone covers all the bare essential apps people care about (Pandora, Spotify, WhatsApp, etc). IDK, I don't really use my phone for more than casual internet browsing, texting and playing the occasional gameboy game so maybe I'm the target market for Windows phone since mine runs fast, does everything I want quickly, never hangs or crashes and has decent battery life. This, and Windows Phone 8 has a nice functional design aesthetic which facilitates exactly this: getting your necessary poo poo done easily and quickly. I heard that the upcoming Windows 10 update is gonna poo poo on everything, though, so I guess that's it for me. I'm gonna buy a Samsung or a Nexus for my next phone when I have the cash, but my current cheapo Lumia performs as well as a 200€ Android but had a 60€ price tag. I'm a poor student who only uses the phone for casual internet browsing and updating my calendar, so, yeah.
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Dec 8, 2015 15:41
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Xlorp posted:I'm not so torqued over top/bottom placements as the left/right. The way the power and volume buttons are situated to your fingertips grasping the phone is great if one is a rightie. Left handed people are another good example of bad design
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Dec 8, 2015 15:55
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Xlorp posted:I'm not so torqued over top/bottom placements as the left/right. The way the power and volume buttons are situated to your fingertips grasping the phone is great if one is a rightie. On my phone the buttons are all in the center of the back of the phone rather than on the sides. At first I hated it but it's actually a lot harder to accidentally mash them while you're holding it yet easy to reach them when you need to 
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Dec 8, 2015 16:04
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Shadow posted:Alright, I'll accept that as a reason. It still sucks that I turn the phone off by mistake so often because of it being placed right opposite the volume button, but your explanation does make design sense. No, dipshit, it's because all the other connectors are lovely and the electronics to make them work are thick. Lightining is incredibly loving fast, the connector is thin, bi-directional & super easy to insert, and the electronics that make it all work are incredibly loving lean thin and allow them to make really sexy thin hardware. Lighting is better than USB in every goddamn way. You just hate Apple out of dumbshit principle because the people that used to throw you into trashcans at school own iPhones.
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Dec 8, 2015 16:46
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a happy snowman posted:because the people that used to throw you into trashcans at school own iPhones. this is the opposite of reality.
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Dec 8, 2015 16:50
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a happy snowman posted:No, dipshit, it's because all the other connectors are lovely and the electronics to make them work are thick. lollllll
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Dec 8, 2015 16:50
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u wanna go? meet me in yospos ill fight u
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Dec 8, 2015 16:52
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a happy snowman posted:No, dipshit, it's because all the other connectors are lovely and the electronics to make them work are thick. actually lightning sucks and a difference of a few mm is irrelevant, especially with usb c on the agenda. see: the MacBook
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Dec 8, 2015 16:56
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the actually important thing that apple does well is dealing with the battery.
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Dec 8, 2015 16:58
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a happy snowman posted:No, dipshit, it's because all the other connectors are lovely and the electronics to make them work are thick. lightning is USB 2 speeds for all ur 2008 peripherals
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Dec 8, 2015 17:17
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ArmZ posted:actually lightning sucks and a difference of a few mm is irrelevant, especially with usb c on the agenda. see: the MacBook lightning was faster for a little while but with the disadvantage of basically being a PCI-Express line and therefore unable to do the whole hub thing USB can, which gets incredibly annoying for me since my 2 lightning ports on this MBP are being used for two pretty basic things already (one of which - the ethernet port - should have been built into the drat laptop to begin with)
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Dec 8, 2015 17:20
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ArmZ posted:the actually important thing that apple does well is dealing with the battery. Ahaha no iPhone 6 battery - 1,810mAH My lovely Samsung - 3,500mAH
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Dec 8, 2015 17:24
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a happy snowman posted:No, dipshit, it's because all the other connectors are lovely and the electronics to make them work are thick. someone get a white sheet and an N64 with goldeneye, we have a hell of a projector right here
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Dec 8, 2015 17:28
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:lightning was faster for a little while but with the disadvantage of basically being a PCI-Express line and therefore unable to do the whole hub thing USB can, which gets incredibly annoying for me since my 2 lightning ports on this MBP are being used for two pretty basic things already (one of which - the ethernet port - should have been built into the drat laptop to begin with) you're thinking thunderbolt ports
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Dec 8, 2015 17:32
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Logikv9 posted:you're thinking thunderbolt ports ... yes, you're right, i got them mixed up. i never do that. what the hell. i'll still fight u.
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Dec 8, 2015 18:10
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a happy snowman posted:No, dipshit, it's because all the other connectors are lovely and the electronics to make them work are thick. The cable is rated 1.5 stars on apples own store by over 1k people.
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Dec 8, 2015 18:36
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Uthor posted:If you wanna see a bad decision, see Microsoft's brand new flagship phone. You have, top to bottom, volume up, power, volume down. Yes, the power is between the volume buttons. I really don't know what the reasoning was here. A typical rocker button for volume is easier, more intuituve, and actually cheaper than having two buttons in different places rather than the same volume control every other phone had. If you really want to get spergy, the additional cct/wiring required to have the volume buttons in different locations could add up to a few thousand dollars over the lifespan of the phone.
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Dec 8, 2015 18:47
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You guys aren't being real supportive of the 'furious' thing I see A bad thread
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Dec 8, 2015 18:48
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revmoo posted:Ahaha no I don't know which Samsung you have, but when I was reading a review pitting my galaxy s6 against the iphone 6s, it said that while the Samsung had a larger battery, the oled display uses more power, so there difference is negligible. If I'm remembering correctly, the difference between the two was less than 20 minutes worth of use. Edit: I will say that I really hate the trend that apple started off having non-removable batteries. If the battery in my old phone went bad, it was a $15 fix and a trip to wal mart. criscodisco fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Dec 8, 2015 |
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Dec 8, 2015 19:03
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iPhones have smaller batteries but counter with better optimization and a less pixel-dense display to drive. Galaxy phones have larger batteries but are less optimized and have very pixel dense displays. It evens itself out.
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Dec 8, 2015 19:08
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I went from a iphone 4 to a 6 recently, and the battery difference is amazing. Battery for the 6 is really great.
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Dec 8, 2015 19:13
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Blistex posted:If you really want to get spergy, the additional cct/wiring required to have the volume buttons in different locations could add up to a few thousand dollars over the lifespan of the phone. How many phones are you expecting MS to sell???
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Dec 8, 2015 19:18
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Logikv9 posted:iPhones have smaller batteries but counter with better optimization and a less pixel-dense display to drive. Galaxy phones have larger batteries but are less optimized and have very pixel dense displays. It evens itself out. And then you can carry around a spare battery for the Samsung.
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Dec 8, 2015 19:20
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ZombieJesus posted:And then you can carry around a spare battery for the Samsung. Not anymore. Another counterpoint: carrying an external battery works just as well for iPhones and Galaxy S6 (and newer).
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Dec 8, 2015 19:23
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Logikv9 posted:iPhones have smaller batteries but counter with better optimization and a less pixel-dense display to drive. Galaxy phones have larger batteries but are less optimized and have very pixel dense displays. It evens itself out. That's hilarious fanboyism right there "Apple is cool to use a smaller batter in its phones because their screens are lower resolution. See, Apple is better!"
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revmoo posted:That's hilarious fanboyism right there "Apple is cool to use a smaller batter in its phones because their screens are lower resolution. See, Apple is better!" samsung eats battery, apple design is way more efficient. they have about the same battery life. the weight difference is noticeable, unlike the few mm diff between micro usb and lightning. see also: any MacBook source: I have used both
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